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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:58 am

    The Premiership Weekend Winners And Losers
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    Luck can be a formidable opponent and a helluva help...

    Winners

    Micah Richards
    An immense talent. On the evidence of 2007/08, England will not miss Jamie Carragher.

    For all the fuss generated by Sven-Goran Eriksson's spending spree, the Swede's best move this summer was identifying Richards, previously deployed at right-back, as Sylvain Distin's replacement alongside Richard Dunne.


    Manchester Citeh
    Last season, it was impossible to discuss Citeh at length because there was nothing to say once their tedium had been berated. This year's difficulty is the impossibility of fathoming whether their revival is founded on Swedish genius or simple good fortune. Against ManYoo, they were pummelled yet somehow prevailed. Rope-a-dope? Only the dopey would argue as much. With the honourable exceptions of Richards and Dunne, the Citeh performance actually verged on the horrendous.


    Chelski
    Their resilience is remarkable, yet without Rob Styles' botched meddling then Jose Mourinho's disingenuous insistence that his side sought victory at Anfield would have been indisputably refuted: Frank Lampard's penalty was the visitors' only shot on target.


    Liverpool
    Ignoring Rob Styles' ineptitude (as this column will do because the subject is covered at length elsewhere on the site, and what else is to be said other than Styles is inept and Chelski suffer from convenient myopia?), there were plenty of positives for Rafa Benitez to take from Sunday's fractious encounter.

    Foremost will be the satisfaction of his side's balanced, poised and superior display. If this was a test of their title credentials, it was passed comfortably. That the adjudicator's incompetence besmirched the integrity of the examination was an unfortunate side-show. So much for Keith Hackett's eve-of-season directive that 'his officials to adopt the lowest possible profile this season'.

    Fernando Torres made a more welcome dash into the stoplight, speeding past a startled Ben Tal Haim and converting adroitly. The Spaniard's goal was both instant vindication of his £20m-plus price-tag and Steven Gerrard's central deployment. The scenario in which an accomplished striker sped on to a searching through-ball from the Liverpool captain was exactly the type conspicuous by its impossibility last season.

    Quite how Peter Crouch regarded Torres' goal on his Anfield debut is a different matter, however. While both Dirk Kuyt and Andriy Voronin are capable of delivering a support act, Crouch is, like the Spaniard, an out-and-out centre forward. Whenever Torres' stock rises, Crouch's fall drops exponentially - and it suffered the equivalent of last week's Stock Exchange crash on Sunday.


    Portsmouth
    A vital win considering that Pompey's next four league fixtures are Chelski (a), Arsenal (a), Liverpool (h), and Blackburn (a).


    Tottenham Hotspur
    But it counted for so little that whispers of Martin Jol's imminent departure grew significantly louder throughout the weekend. In the history of English football, has a manager ever been sacked in the aftermath of a 4-0 victory?


    Darren Bent and Andy Johnson
    Of the five strikers named in the England squad for the friendly with Germany, only Bent and Johnson started matches at the weekend. Alan Smith completed ninety minutes for Newcastle in midfield while Harry Redknapp inadvertently vindicated Steve McClaren's decision to omit David Nugent by demoting his £6m striker to the bench.


    Losers

    ManYoo
    The champions weren't in crisis in midweek and the debit of another point to their championship rivals hardly justifies an amendment. Nonetheless, the nature of their third successive setback was concerning.

    Playing both ahead of his best position and schedule, Carlos Tevez could not disguise his inadequacy as a centre-forward. The designated replacement for Wayne Rooney is not suited to spearhead an attack and, as a consequence, too much of United's play was convoluted, thereby restricting the ratio of possession to goalscoring opportunities. Both Ryan Giggs and the disappointing Nani were guilty of drifting inwards - a tendency probably motivated by a desire to support the struggling Argentine but which only succeeded in reducing the potent service available. 62% of possession produced just four tests of the erratic Kasper Schmeichel.

    While comparisons with last year's cross-shy, possession-obsessed Arsenal were obvious, it was the contrast to previous ManYoo teams that was most striking. A hallmark of the Ferguson regime has been his side's willingness to pack the opposition's penalty box in the expectation of incisive delivery from wide. Against Citeh, the value of maximising the width of the pitch was neglected at a heavy price.

    Yet it would be remiss to pin the blame squarely on Ferguson's team.

    The critical benefit of the 4-3-3 formation which Ferguson's increasingly-influential assistant Carlos Queiroz has apparently persuaded the Scot to adopt is the likelihood of midfield control. The downside is the distinct possibility of the main striker being isolated against two central-defenders. Against Citeh, both conditions existed as ManYoo dominated yet lacked a cutting edge. Possession literally become pointless.


    Bolton Wanderers And MOTD Viewers
    A pity that Saturday's edition of MOTD failed to include the reaction of Kevin Nolan when the Bolton skipper was substituted after 55 ignominious minutes at Pompey because it must have been a fascinating moment on what was otherwise a low-interest day.

    Nolan has become the embodiment of Bolton's failure to prosper under the management of Sammy Lee -who will continue to resemble a call-centre supervisor in a cheap suit unless he removes that ridiculous earpiece. Having been touted as a future England international by stint of his work for Sam Allardyce, Nolan has born the brunt of Lee's modernization. Patently uncomfortable at right-midfield on the opening day against Allardyce's rampant visitors, he was no better at Fulham in midweek and floundered as a support striker on the south coast.

    Nolan's face must have offered a telling tale when he was hauled off with over an hour still to play. "I'm not happy. I don't know where I am supposed to play," he later told reporters in an interview that wasn't broadcast by the Beeb either.

    For the moment, Lee retains the backing of chairman Phil Gartside. The Bolton chairman is a committed supporter of his plan to introduce entertainment at the Reebok. Yet a reassuring victory is essential, while a dressing-room revolt against the manager would be fatal. As with his on-pitch strife, Nolan's position remains frustratingly unclear.


    Birmingham City
    Even without a forensic examination of recent events, Steve Bruce's "big club versus little club syndrome" interpretation of the "two absolute howlers in three days against us" can be immediately discounted; Birmingham's opponents this week were Sunderland and West Ham.


    Sunderland
    The bets can be cashed in. Just one week of the season had elapsed before Roy Keane's calm façade erupted into vein-bulging anger. "There's a fine line between loyalty and stupidity, and no doubt I've been stupid - it won't happen again," the Sunderland boss informed a delighted press pack after defeat at Wigan.

    As both players were replaced at half-time, it is reasonable to assume that Dwight Yorke and Anthony Stokes will be at the eye of Keane's raging storm.


    Arsene Wenger
    Taken in the context of the mounting evidence that the power of the Big Four is finally being properly challenged, a point at Ewood Park was a decent result against a decent team. However, two significant events during the draw at Blackburn posed awkward questions of Arsene Wenger's recent decision-making.

    First, an injury to William Gallas has laid bare the folly of the Arsenal manager permitting Johan Djourou to depart on loan to Birmingham. If Philippe Senderos - who is, in any case, an inferior alternative to Djourou - or Kolo Toure are laid low during Gallas' scheduled three-week recuperation, Wenger's only feasible option would be midfielder Gilberto Silva.

    Second, another mistake by Jens Lehmann has bolstered opinion that the German is a liability who should not have been offered a contract extension after a slack 2006/07 campaign. To compound that error, Wenger has boxed himself into a corner by failing to provide an adequate alternative. If Manuel Alumnia offered a long-term solution then he would have been installed months ago, and if summer signing Lukasz Fabianski was deemed ready then he, rather than the Spaniard, would have occupied a seat on the bench at Blackburn.


    Fulham
    Fulham fans will not appreciate the connection following's officialdom refusal to award David Healy's 'goal', but Bolton were relegated from the Premiership ten years ago by a solitary point from Everton just a few months after match officials failed to spot a 'winning goal' clearly crossing the Toffees' goal-line.

    Lawrie Sanchez's side are approximately fifth-favourites for the drop, yet bad luck is a formidable opponent. Aside from being denied a point against Middlesbrough, Fulham have already been peculiarly prone to freak injuries this season. The consequence of the wrist injury suffered by Antti Niemi during the warm-up at Arsenal has been two dreadful mistakes in as many matches by stand-in Tony Warner. Niemi should return next week but Brian McBride, crocked in the process of scoring, will be out for three months with a dislocated knee while Hameur Bouazza, who bizarrely dislocated his shoulder on Saturday, will not return until mid-September at the earliest.


    Derby County
    Making an embarrassing lie of the cherished adage that there are no easy games in the Premier League.

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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:04 pm

    Parks lives wrote:

    Manchester Citeh
    Last season, it was impossible to discuss Citeh at length because there was nothing to say once their tedium had been berated. This year's difficulty is the impossibility of fathoming whether their revival is founded on Swedish genius or simple good fortune. Against ManYoo, they were pummelled yet somehow prevailed. Rope-a-dope? Only the dopey would argue as much. With the honourable exceptions of Richards and Dunne, the Citeh performance actually verged on the horrendous.

    ok

    Still can't get how Sky try to make out that Johnson and Hamaan we're awesome. Apart from Hamaan's cynical foul on Giggs, you hardly saw him all day.
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:11 pm

    *were Parky - WERE!!! Smiley
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    Post by fcb Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:12 pm

    I thought Hamann controlled the midfield in the first half. Well, not totally, but he looked like a player reborn, that's for sure.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:13 pm

    This is a stupid feature, i don't think we've had a mention since we drew 2-2 with Man U in january.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:16 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Nolan's face must have offered a telling tale when he was hauled off with over an hour still to play. "I'm not happy. I don't know where I am supposed to play," he later told reporters in an interview that wasn't broadcast by the Beeb either.
    Absolute rock bottom for Bolton at the moment. Its sounds like almost Mission Impossible to turn it around.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:19 pm

    kas wrote:I thought Hamann controlled the midfield in the first half.

    How could a City midfielder control a game when we were camped in there half and had 70% possession.

    You also said yesterday that we lost the game because we lost all the headers! Did you watch the full 90 minutes?
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:21 pm

    Rob Styles is clearly a loser from this weekend. He has been dropped from next weekend's set of fixtures as a punishment for his mistake at Anfield.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:22 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Rob Styles is clearly a loser from this weekend. He has been dropped from next weekend's set of fixtures as a punishment for his mistake at Anfield.

    Should go to the Championship for a month like what happened to Dermot Gallagher.
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:27 pm

    Sheffield gunner wrote:Rob Styles is clearly a loser from this weekend. He has been dropped from next weekend's set of fixtures as a punishment for his mistake at Anfield.
    That'll teach him. Erm

    How has he even got away with giving Essien two yellows? If he, like he expertly claimed afterwards, showed the yellow for Terry, then why show Terry the card twice? Once when he was in front of him and the next (20 seconds) later when he was on the other side of the pitch. No matter how you look at it or what explenation you give it, its a major C0ck-up.

    And that's not even the penalty awarding moment, which was bollocks.
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    Post by Rez Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:37 pm

    kas wrote:I thought Hamann controlled the midfield in the first half. Well, not totally, but he looked like a player reborn, that's for sure.

    @kas

    The match was completely one sided, I dont think they had the ball in our half (in open play) for longer than 30 seconds at a time. They didnt create a single opportunity (the goal was a speculative shot from distance) because they didnt have the ball, it was as one sided as the reading game.

    In regards to the 365 article, the 3 in midfield will help us control the big games (the CL and Top 4 games) but with Rooney/Giggs, Ronaldo/Nani and Saha/Tevez playing ahead of them, we will have more than enough creativity and attacking threat to beat any team.
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    Post by Tweesus Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:41 pm

    Its nice to see the planets have realligned and we're back in the losers section ok
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    Post by DD Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:43 pm

    No West Ham in the losers section. They had a subscription to it last year whatever they did.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:48 pm

    Why are people banging on about possesion in the Manc derby? It's irrelevant, Man City wanted Man U to have the ball, their game plan was to sit back. Erm The fact is that Man U didn't create all that much, and there were very few clear cut chances, people on here are acting as if Man U pounded them for the whole 90 minutes and created buckets of chances. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Cesc Soler Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:56 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Its nice to see the planets have realligned and we're back in the losers section ok
    We deserve to be there TBH.

    You can't argue that keeping Lehmann wasn't a risk and we wouldn't regret sending Djourou on loan, everyone knew something like this would happen. He must trust Song.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:57 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Why are people banging on about possesion in the Manc derby? It's irrelevant, Man City wanted Man U to have the ball, their game plan was to sit back. Erm The fact is that Man U didn't create all that much, and there were very few clear cut chances, people on here are acting as if Man U pounded them for the whole 90 minutes and created buckets of chances. Rolling Eyes

    You do like jumping in on little points.

    I've got no problem with the way we lost yesterday, what I do have a problem with is hearing someone say Hamaan controlled the game.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:00 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Why are people banging on about possesion in the Manc derby? It's irrelevant, Man City wanted Man U to have the ball, their game plan was to sit back. Erm The fact is that Man U didn't create all that much, and there were very few clear cut chances, people on here are acting as if Man U pounded them for the whole 90 minutes and created buckets of chances. Rolling Eyes

    You do like jumping in on little points.

    I've got no problem with the way we lost yesterday, what I do have a problem with is hearing someone say Hamaan controlled the game.

    A little point that is getting repeated over and over and over. Man U's possesion meant nothing, Man City executed their game plan perfectly(apart from the penalty shout) and were worth the win. Enough of this "lucky" bollocks. <Ale>
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    Post by robert Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:04 pm

    The ball deflected in of Vidic... not lucky?

    And it is bullshit to say that City wanted us to have the ball, so that they could play on the counter attack. All of their front players hardly had any counter-attacks to speak off, they could not pass out of their own half for most of the game.

    They deserved their win not because they executed a game plan perfectly, not because of their lucky goal but because we fucked up, if they had planned to let us play the ball then they would have been more composed playing it out of their half.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:09 pm

    robert wrote:The ball deflected in of Vidic... not lucky?

    And it is bullshit to say that City wanted us to have the ball, so that they could play on the counter attack. All of their front players hardly had any counter-attacks to speak off, they could not pass out of their own half for most of the game.

    They deserved their win not because they executed a game plan perfectly, not because of their lucky goal but because we fucked up, if they had planned to let us play the ball then they would have been more composed playing it out of their half.

    The goal was lucky yes. And ofcourse City wanted you to have the ball, they were looking to sit back, let you have the ball, and try to snatch a draw. It's obvious(to a neutral), not bullshit.

    You lost not because you "fucked up" but because City stiffled you and you couldn't break them down, give credit where credit is due. ok
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    Post by robert Mon Aug 20, 2007 1:13 pm

    We did f@ck up, in the tranfer market that is. Tevez had two chances clean through on goal, a natural striker with great starting pace over 30 yards would have buried those.
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    Post by Rez Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:00 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    robert wrote:The ball deflected in of Vidic... not lucky?

    And it is bullshit to say that City wanted us to have the ball, so that they could play on the counter attack. All of their front players hardly had any counter-attacks to speak off, they could not pass out of their own half for most of the game.

    They deserved their win not because they executed a game plan perfectly, not because of their lucky goal but because we fucked up, if they had planned to let us play the ball then they would have been more composed playing it out of their half.

    The goal was lucky yes. And ofcourse City wanted you to have the ball, they were looking to sit back, let you have the ball, and try to snatch a draw. It's obvious(to a neutral), not bullshit.

    You lost not because you "fucked up" but because City stiffled you and you couldn't break them down, give credit where credit is due. ok

    Kimbo, if there plan wass to not touch the ball for 90 minutes and have one long distance shot that would deflect of a defender into the net, then let united create chances because they knew Tevez would miss two open goals, that Vidic would hit the cross bar etc.

    Stiffling the opposition, would result in the opposition not creating any chances, but the opposite happened, so its safe to say that we did indeed 'f@ck up'.

    They didnt set out to let us have the ball, it's just that they couldnt get the ball!!! Playing football without the ball is never a good plan, the only time it ever works is if the opposition are extremly wasteful in front of goal and you get extremly lucky. Both occurred yesterday afternoon, but if you try that tactic in 10 games, you will lose badly in 8 or 9 of them.
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    Post by Lard Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:03 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    robert wrote:The ball deflected in of Vidic... not lucky?

    And it is bullshit to say that City wanted us to have the ball, so that they could play on the counter attack. All of their front players hardly had any counter-attacks to speak off, they could not pass out of their own half for most of the game.

    They deserved their win not because they executed a game plan perfectly, not because of their lucky goal but because we fucked up, if they had planned to let us play the ball then they would have been more composed playing it out of their half.

    The goal was lucky yes. And ofcourse City wanted you to have the ball, they were looking to sit back, let you have the ball, and try to snatch a draw. It's obvious(to a neutral), not bullshit.

    You lost not because you "fucked up" but because City stiffled you and you couldn't break them down, give credit where credit is due. ok

    I guess Sven saying after the match ''We would have liked to have kept the ball more'' kinda ruins your little theory there lol! Doh
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:07 pm

    Yeah, Man City were obviously trying to outplay you and they were chasing the win, oushing men forward when they had the ball. Unfortunately they came up agsint an amazing team, eh? Rolling Eyes I think any non Man U fan can see what Citys tactics were. They set out to limit Man U's chances and nick a draw, yes Man U created a couple of ok chances, but f@ck me... they weren't exactly creating them left right and center.

    Stop trying to make a loss look like a great performance ffs, Man U didn't look good yesterday.
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:08 pm

    L.r.d wrote:
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    robert wrote:The ball deflected in of Vidic... not lucky?

    And it is bullshit to say that City wanted us to have the ball, so that they could play on the counter attack. All of their front players hardly had any counter-attacks to speak off, they could not pass out of their own half for most of the game.

    They deserved their win not because they executed a game plan perfectly, not because of their lucky goal but because we fucked up, if they had planned to let us play the ball then they would have been more composed playing it out of their half.

    The goal was lucky yes. And ofcourse City wanted you to have the ball, they were looking to sit back, let you have the ball, and try to snatch a draw. It's obvious(to a neutral), not bullshit.

    You lost not because you "fucked up" but because City stiffled you and you couldn't break them down, give credit where credit is due. ok

    I guess Sven saying after the match ''We would have liked to have kept the ball more'' kinda ruins your little theory there lol! Doh

    What would you expect him to say lerd? "We tried to park the bus because Man U are better than us", he's never going to say that. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Lard Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:10 pm

    "We were maybe a bit lucky," admitted Eriksson. "I wish we had kept the ball more when we got it.
    Genuine man is Sven <Ale> Biggrin
    Don't have a problem with man city, they got the win they rode there luck. But don't try and make out they intended to let man utd have 20 odd shots and miss clear chances so they could fluke a long range effort and sneak a 1-0 Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Kimbo Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:14 pm

    L.r.d wrote:"We were maybe a bit lucky," admitted Eriksson. "I wish we had kept the ball more when we got it.
    Genuine man is Sven <Ale> Biggrin
    Don't have a problem with man city, they got the win they rode there luck. But don't try and make out they intended to let man utd have 20 odd shots and miss clear chances so they could fluke a long range effort and sneak a 1-0 Rolling Eyes

    20 odd shots and only 3 on target eh? Rolling Eyes That's because most of them were hopeful punts from outside the box. They set out to play defensive, sit back, and try and snatch a draw. I don't see how you can deny this tbh.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:58 pm

    djorrou i didn't understand from the off for this v reason although i do believ sagna can play there
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    Post by Dwarf Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:18 pm

    L.r.d wrote:"We were maybe a bit lucky," admitted Eriksson. "I wish we had kept the ball more when we got it.
    Genuine man is Sven <Ale> Biggrin
    Don't have a problem with man city, they got the win they rode there luck. But don't try and make out they intended to let man utd have 20 odd shots and miss clear chances so they could fluke a long range effort and sneak a 1-0 Rolling Eyes

    Missing clear cut chances. Rolling Eyes

    Vidic missed from a set piece, Tevez missed from a set piece and, from what I can remember, Tevez prospered from a Dunne mistake but failed to take it.

    They were mistakes, the rest of your chances were speculative punts which you'd hope your goalkeeper would be able to save most of the time. Tevez's chances were annoying from your side, but Richards had more than enough physical ability to deal with then.
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    Post by Lard Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:26 pm

    Dwarf wrote:
    L.r.d wrote:"We were maybe a bit lucky," admitted Eriksson. "I wish we had kept the ball more when we got it.
    Genuine man is Sven <Ale> Biggrin
    Don't have a problem with man city, they got the win they rode there luck. But don't try and make out they intended to let man utd have 20 odd shots and miss clear chances so they could fluke a long range effort and sneak a 1-0 Rolling Eyes

    Missing clear cut chances. Rolling Eyes

    Vidic missed from a set piece, Tevez missed from a set piece and, from what I can remember, Tevez prospered from a Dunne mistake but failed to take it.

    They were mistakes, the rest of your chances were speculative punts which you'd hope your goalkeeper would be able to save most of the time. Tevez's chances were annoying from your side, but Richards had more than enough physical ability to deal with then.

    Yeah Nani's one on one was a speculative punt, and evra's one on one was the same thing i guess Rolling Eyes Tevez being clean through three times but each time being caught up was indeed annoying.....And yep we hit the bar and missed an open goal from two yards, but they came from a corner so it don't count Rolling Eyes
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    Post by fcb Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:32 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    kas wrote:I thought Hamann controlled the midfield in the first half.

    How could a City midfielder control a game when we were camped in there half and had 70% possession.

    You also said yesterday that we lost the game because we lost all the headers! Did you watch the full 90 minutes?


    Yeah, sorry, I'm confusing things a bit. Basically, every time he did get the ball I saw him release a great pass, and he was the best of the City midfielders IMO. And you did lose a lot of headers when you were trying to attack, though it was partly also due to there not being anyone in the right places in Man. City's box to head the ball. A bit like Argentina, like someone posted before.

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