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    English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football

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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:16 pm

    ie, Euro 2008 ( WITHOUT English participation)

    to the Champions League (even when English teams play)

    Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

    obviously, there will be quite a few exceptions, but that's the gist of the latest TV ratings in England

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/article4107872.ece

    and who can blame them

    the fewer English players are on the pitch, the better the football becomes

    English fans clearly know their stuff when it comes to the beautiful game

    <Ale> Biggrin
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:17 pm

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    Post by Sheffield gunner Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:22 pm

    Here you go Otto: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/international/euro_2008/article4107872.ece

    But, as always with statistics, they can be interpreted very differently. This article posts a less positive assessment: http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_3669442,00.html
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:23 pm

    From The TimesJune 11, 2008

    Euro 2008 TV viewing figures bring relief to BBC and ITV

    Television audiences for opening round of matches suggest public will be tuning in despite absence of home nations
    Dan Sabbagh, Media Editor

    Holland's unexpected 3-0 defeat of Italy was watched by a peak audience of 7.3million on ITV1 on Monday evening, demonstrating that the public's appetite for football is undimmed, despite the absence of a home nation at Euro 2008. A third of all television viewers, and nearly half of all men, tuned in as Holland established their lead - the kind of audience levels that will banish the lingering concerns held by the BBC and ITV about the wisdom of carrying the tournament.

    Although Holland versus Italy was the match that caught the public's imagination, all the matches have been well supported. Switzerland versus the Czech Republic on Saturday, hardly top box-office material, drew 3.5million throughout, about 27 per cent of all viewers.

    ITV said yesterday that the evening matches have been getting higher audiences than Champions League matches involving British teams, amounting to a vindication of the belief that the public is keen to watch high-quality football involving familiar names, whether they are Cristiano Ronaldo or Robin van Persie.

    The only difference is that there are none of the ten million-plus audiences that an England match would bring. But the Euro 2008 ties have shown there is a bedrock of supporters ready to watch any top-class match. A spokesman for the BBC said: “There are 52 Premier League players in the tournament, people who the public watch week in, week out. We are a nation obsessed by football.”

    The key for the broadcasters is the audience share. BBC One needs to attract a little more than 20 per cent and ITV1 a little below that to justify showing any programme. Every match has met that target, with signs that the audience is building as the tournament engages the imagination.

    On Saturday, Portgual against Turkey was watched by 5.2million at peak on ITV1. On Sunday, the faster-paced Germany-Poland match was seen by 5.6million - both building nicely, from the broadcasters' point of view, into the week, when audiences are typically greater.

    Three million even watched throughout Austria versus Croatia and 2.9million saw the turgid goalless draw played out by France and Romania early on Monday evening. Highlights packages on BBC One, starting at shortly before midnight, are being watched by one million on average, a similar audience to BBC Two's Newsnight. If there is a high watermark for football on television, it has yet to be reached.

    Italian newspapers have lambasted the world champions after their woeful performance in the 3-0 defeat by Holland. “Ouch. What a blow!” the banner headline on the front page of Gazzetta dello Sport, the national sports daily, read. “Holland gives us a lesson.” Italy's defeat was their worst at a European Championship finals. “The Dutch deserve it because they played as if they were the world champions and not us,” one Gazzetta columnist wrote. “It is the beginning, but it already feels like the end.”

    BBC One

    Switzerland v Czech Republic

    4.6m peak (30%)

    3.5m average (27%)

    Austria v Croatia

    3.5m peak (30%)

    3.0m average (23%)

    Germany v Poland

    5.6m peak (25%)

    4.5m average (21%)

    Romania v France

    4.5m peak (27%)

    2.9m average (23%)

    ITV1

    Portugal v Turkey

    5.2m peak (25%)

    4.0m average (21%)

    Holland v Italy

    7.3m peak (33%)

    5.6m average (27%)
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    Post by Machiavel Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:27 pm

    What is the point of this thread?
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:30 pm

    Afellay wrote:What is the point of this thread?

    English are stupid?

    Germany is awesome?

    Oh

    BTW

    shut up Rai Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Parks lives Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:36 pm

    Otto, you do realise the CL final was on two different channels don't you?

    It was on ITV and Sky.
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:45 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Otto, you do realise the CL final was on two different channels don't you?

    It was on ITV and Sky.

    this is NOT about the CL FINAL

    which would clearly be an EXCEPTION

    just like major England games

    the point is:

    you take an average Euro 2008 game (without English participation) and compare it to an averate CL game (WITH EPL participation and therefore English players as well) and the NON-English game is top

    think about it
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    Post by Machiavel Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:50 pm

    The opening weekend of Euro 2008 delivered lacklustre ratings for both ITV and the BBC and a sharp fall in the audience share even when compared to non-England games at Euro 2004.

    According to the Media Guardian website, Switzerland versus Czech Republic attracted just 2.5 million viewers and a 27% share of the total television audience. While ITV's coverage of Cristiano Ronaldo's Portugal versus Turkey was watched by an average of around 4 million, the audience share fell to just 20%.

    Sunday's Euro 2008 ratings are described as 'similarly disappointing' when 'coverage of the Austria v Croatia game on BBC1 from 4.40pm to 7pm averaged 3 million and 23% share' and 'the Germany v Poland match, also on BBC1, drew an average 4.5 million viewers, a 21% share, between 7.25pm and 10pm.'

    While an ITV spokesman put a brave face on the figures, they amount to a sharp fall from Euro 2004 when the 'the first game of the tournament attracted 6.2 million viewers when Greece took a surprise 2-1 victory over host nation Portugal, while Spain v Russia and Croatia v Switzerland snared 6.4 million and 4.3 million respectively.'

    Both the BBC and ITV have previously been described as being braced for an avalanche of complaints from 'football widows' angry that the usual prime-time scheduling has been ripped up in order to accommodate coverage of the tournament despite none of the Home Nations being present.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:55 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Otto, you do realise the CL final was on two different channels don't you?

    It was on ITV and Sky.

    this is NOT about the CL FINAL

    which would clearly be an EXCEPTION

    just like major England games

    the point is:

    you take an average Euro 2008 game (without English participation) and compare it to an averate CL game (WITH EPL participation and therefore English players as well) and the NON-English game is top

    think about it

    what?

    it's chalk and cheese. If you want to compare, compare the irrelevant games from this tournament with the irrelevant games from a previous tournament where England were involved. You'll find the numbers are down by about 50%

    Ignoring the fact that Champions League games are not played on a weekend, or at 5pm and only a quarter of them are on terrestrial Tv, you are an idiot Ale

    think about it
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:03 pm

    Fail. <Ale>
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    Post by 110% Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:08 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:Otto, you do realise the CL final was on two different channels don't you?

    It was on ITV and Sky.

    this is NOT about the CL FINAL

    which would clearly be an EXCEPTION

    just like major England games

    the point is:

    you take an average Euro 2008 game (without English participation) and compare it to an averate CL game (WITH EPL participation and therefore English players as well) and the NON-English game is top

    think about it

    It's clear you never really thought this one through lol!

    so far all matches have been 1 at a time, in the group stages of the CL there are how many matches on at the same time? 1 is shown on terrestrial tv with all the rest on satellite, so what the terrestrial channels share of the audience even

    kimbo and glen has understated a spectacular fail here
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:14 pm

    FAIL

    English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football 558333~German-Woman-Holding-Stein-of-Beer-Oktoberfest-Posters
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    Post by Kimbo Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:18 pm

    English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football Millionaire_idiot_fail-713308
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    Post by Football Genius Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:20 pm

    Kimbo wrote:English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football Millionaire_idiot_fail-713308

    That's fucking hilarious lol!
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    Post by COTR Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:21 pm

    This has the potential to outfail the Englanders thread

    Cheers for brightening up my day otto
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    Post by 110% Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:22 pm

    Football Genius wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football Millionaire_idiot_fail-713308

    That's fucking hilarious lol!

    Maybe she thought they are talking about a German elephant?
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:37 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:

    Holland's unexpected 3-0 defeat of Italy was watched by a peak audience of 7.3million


    Although Holland versus Italy was the match that caught the public's imagination

    Attractive football will *always* rule Otto, that's why Holland will always > Germany !


    Think about it Ale
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    Post by 72-76-80-96-08 Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:44 pm

    COTR wrote:

    Cheers for brightening up my day otto

    children

    would you agree that Villa is about 3 times as good as Torres

    oh wait, 1 times 3 = 3

    but Torres scored 0 goals

    in which case, to find out how much better Villa is we have to divide 3 by 0, I suppose

    3 : 0 = 0

    Yikes

    oh dear, Villa is not better at all

    Laugh
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    Post by COTR Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:46 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    COTR wrote:

    Cheers for brightening up my day otto

    children

    would you agree that Villa is about 3 times as good as Torres

    oh wait, 1 times 3 = 3

    but Torres scored 0 goals

    in which case, to find out how much better Villa is we have to divide 3 by 0, I suppose

    3 : 0 = 0

    Yikes

    oh dear, Villa is not better at all

    Laugh

    Yes

    If you agree that Torres is approx 1,100,000 times >>>>>>> Gomez


    Glenn will do the maths for you if you can't figure this one out
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:50 pm

    COTR wrote: Torres is approx 1,100,000 times >>>>>>> Gomez


    Glenn will do the maths for you if you can't figure this one out

    the actual figure is 1,099,998 but rounding up is acceptable.
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    Post by Barrilete Fri Jun 13, 2008 2:42 pm

    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    COTR wrote:

    Cheers for brightening up my day otto

    children

    would you agree that Villa is about 3 times as good as Torres

    oh wait, 1 times 3 = 3

    but Torres scored 0 goals

    in which case, to find out how much better Villa is we have to divide 3 by 0, I suppose

    3 : 0 = 0


    Yikes

    oh dear, Villa is not better at all

    Laugh

    Yikes



    English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football Fail

    DIVISION BY 0 IS NOT DEFINED IN MATHEMATICS...however if we do the limit of 3/x when x approaches 0, then we get that the division would lean towards infinite, so Villa infinitely better than Torres
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:27 pm

    Thus confirming my theory that Otto is in fact a girl Ale
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    Post by DD Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:41 pm

    Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:
    72-76-80-96-08 wrote:
    COTR wrote:

    Cheers for brightening up my day otto

    children

    would you agree that Villa is about 3 times as good as Torres

    oh wait, 1 times 3 = 3

    but Torres scored 0 goals

    in which case, to find out how much better Villa is we have to divide 3 by 0, I suppose

    3 : 0 = 0


    Yikes

    oh dear, Villa is not better at all

    Laugh

    Yikes



    English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football Fail

    DIVISION BY 0 IS NOT DEFINED IN MATHEMATICS...however if we do the limit of 3/x when x approaches 0, then we get that the division would lean towards infinite, so Villa infinitely better than Torres
    lol!
    English fans prefer INTERNATIONAL football Pwned-facekick
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    Post by Tom Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:18 pm

    hahaha Otto got dicked on!!

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