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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sun May 17, 2009 4:06 pm

    what's Obi's name on RAWK, LuLu?
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    Post by Luis Sun May 17, 2009 4:06 pm

    Dragões azuis e brancos™️ wrote:what's Obi's name on RAWK, LuLu?

    I'll PM you it
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    Post by debaser Sun May 17, 2009 4:15 pm

    The Professor wrote:
    debaser wrote:
    The Professor wrote:Carragher is the most overrated defender in the world(well Puyol runs him close). The sooner he's replaced by Agger the better for Pool.
    As an individual he is not the greatest, but as part of a defensive unit, he's very good - he is ever present for Liverpool this season because he has experience and organises the defence, and generally their defensive record has been very good. Skrtel-Agger may sound good on paper, but Benitez doesn't trust them together yet, I guess because he thinks they don't have the experience. I expect Carragher will start to be weaned out over the next few years.

    Benitez just doesn't want the fans against him at this moment IMO. Had he won the PL, It would have been easier to drop a fan favourite as Carra If even results don't go his way.

    Watch next time Pool concede a goal Debaser, I bet you'll see Carra had some role in that.
    May well be so, but Carragher plays in every game, of course he will accumulate more mistakes. Agger & Skrtel are only playing roughly every other game now, and Rafa is probably picking which games most suit Skrtel and Agger's attributes.

    Skrtel is the one that needs to succeed Carragher, and I don't think he's there yet. Agger should make the other CB spot his own next season with a new contract and free of injuries.
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    Post by debaser Sun May 17, 2009 4:16 pm

    Hopefully Chelsea crush Blackburn (but concede a goal). Got an Anelka assist already, need Lampard to step up now...
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sun May 17, 2009 4:17 pm

    Chelsea modelling their Tour de France kits.
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    Post by S4P Sun May 17, 2009 4:19 pm

    Blackburn are awful.
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    Post by S4P Sun May 17, 2009 4:23 pm

    God only knows how Ashley Cole hasn't scored this season. Must've had as many chances as Ronaldo and Lampard this season.
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    Post by Luis Sun May 17, 2009 4:25 pm

    S4P wrote:God only knows how Ashley Cole hasn't scored this season. Must've had as many chances as Ronaldo and Lampard this season.

    I really doubt this.
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    Post by Romford Pele Sun May 17, 2009 5:06 pm

    Chelsea's kit is minging.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun May 17, 2009 5:10 pm

    Dragões azuis e brancos™️ wrote:Babel is Onree minus the brains talent to be honest.

    ok
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Sun May 17, 2009 5:11 pm

    The Professor wrote:

    Watch next time Pool concede a goal Debaser, I bet you'll see Carra had some role in that.


    lol!


    no more than any other defender has a role when their team loses a goal. Liverpool have one of the best defenses in the league, and as I said already Agger, Arbeloa and Reina have all been worse than Carragher this season.
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    Post by Romford Pele Sun May 17, 2009 5:13 pm

    Graham Taylor on BBC 5 Live: "I think Guus Hiddink must have had a word with Didier Drogba after the Barcelona game. Drogba's actions against Arsenal and in this game... he's been very good. No going to ground or anything."

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    Post by COTR Sun May 17, 2009 5:16 pm

    Glenrique Hilário wrote:
    The Professor wrote:

    Watch next time Pool concede a goal Debaser, I bet you'll see Carra had some role in that.


    lol!


    no more than any other defender has a role when their team loses a goal. Liverpool have one of the best defenses in the league, and as I said already Agger, Arbeloa and Reina have all been worse than Carragher this season.

    I disagree

    Arbeloa has had an excellent season, Reina has made a few mistakes but was brilliant up until the united game and agger has started how many games ?

    I haven't really been impressed with carra in many games this season although rather ironically he was actually our best player today. Most of the goals we have conceded this season have been from set pieces so not really carra's fault.

    It's up to skrtel and agger to force Rafa not to pick him though. At the moment neither are doing enough to force Rafa to do this
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    Post by L r dd Sun May 17, 2009 5:19 pm

    Carragher will become to Liverpool what Raul is to Madrid. Ale


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    Post by Rosicky Sun May 17, 2009 5:19 pm

    2-0 Anelka

    Assist Drogba.

    Grr
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sun May 17, 2009 5:19 pm

    Anelka scores with a decent strike from the edge of the box.
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    Post by L r dd Sun May 17, 2009 5:20 pm

    Important goal i believe that means he's joint topscorer with ronaldo. ronaldo is selfish and surely will want to play some part v hull now.
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    Post by Guest Sun May 17, 2009 5:20 pm

    I find it hard to blame Carragher for any of the negativity this season. Our defense has been mostly rock solid and he's been an integral part of that. We didnt lose out on the title because our defense has been weak, we lost out because we failed to break down and score against smaller teams, especially at home where we should have hammered Stoke etc.

    How many points do you think Carragher has cost us?
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    Post by christmasborocooper Sun May 17, 2009 5:21 pm

    Nice to see how hard they're trying to get Anelka to be top scorer.
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    Post by COTR Sun May 17, 2009 5:30 pm

    Crouching Tiger wrote:I find it hard to blame Carragher for any of the negativity this season. Our defense has been mostly rock solid and he's been an integral part of that. We didnt lose out on the title because our defense has been weak, we lost out because we failed to break down and score against smaller teams, especially at home where we should have hammered Stoke etc.

    How many points do you think Carragher has cost us?

    Our defence has been far from rock solid (compared to previous seasons)

    Think of the arsenal game, the chelsea CL games, the home games against city, everton, hull (carra o.g.), wigan. All matches where we either dropped points in or made harder due to poor defensive displays. While United were winning these games 1-0, we were drawing them 1-1 or 2-2. This is why they overtook us.

    I am being a little bit harsh on carragher, but his hoofing also doesn't help matters. I just want Rafa to view him as an option to sit games out, not just agger and skrtel
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Sun May 17, 2009 5:47 pm

    borocooper wrote:
    Dragões azuis e brancos™️ wrote:Babel is Onree minus the brains talent to be honest.

    ok

    Brown skinned? check

    6ft. plus? Check

    Pacy? Check

    Favours being on the left wing to cut onto his right? Check

    Strikes the ball with venom? Check

    Better in a counter attacking team? Check

    Decent but not exquisite technique? Check

    Can't head the ball? Check

    And of course....

    Loves a nice push & run? Check. Smile

    Henry has tonnes more vision & awareness, and always knows how to use the ball and his team-mates around him to create opportunities for himself and others. And he's good at set-pieces. None of this Babel has, with makes him quite one-dimensional.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Sun May 17, 2009 6:02 pm

    Henry had v.good technique :s
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    Post by Romford Pele Sun May 17, 2009 6:05 pm

    Punty don't start up this debate again.
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    Post by Rosicky Sun May 17, 2009 8:07 pm

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    lol!
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    Post by Luis Sun May 17, 2009 8:14 pm

    It was good, but nothing compared to Gallas in tears!
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    Post by fcb Sun May 17, 2009 8:16 pm

    Carragher lol!

    Who's more expendable in order to maintain team spirit - club mascot and vice captain, or the only decent RB?
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    Post by Fade out Sun May 17, 2009 8:21 pm

    Carraghar is furious these Spanish c**ts don't want to hoof it up the moment it comes to the box. ok
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    Post by Six Sun May 17, 2009 8:49 pm

    According to Ricardo Fuller a slap or two is good for team spirit. ok

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/stoke_city/8028722.stm
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Sun May 17, 2009 8:59 pm

    I'm not sure why Carragher blew a fuse there, I don't think Arbeloa did anything much wrong in the preceding play. He was pretty close to landing one on Alonso after he'd come to pull them apart Surprised
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    Post by Tom Sun May 17, 2009 10:15 pm

    Ray Parlour wrote:Graham Taylor on BBC 5 Live: "I think Guus Hiddink must have had a word with Didier Drogba after the Barcelona game. Drogba's actions against Arsenal and in this game... he's been very good. No going to ground or anything."

    Laughing
    To be fair to Didier today, he did stay on his feet after several robust challenges. He was off balance and where he would usually go down and try and claim a freekick he kept going. Don't see what is so funny about that? Didn't see Ronaldo doing that against Arsenal, at least Drogba made a vain attempt to stay on his feet.

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