BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Why Ballack? He's scored some quite important goals in the latter stages of the CL and WC.
Rosicky wrote:BoBo Vieri 32 wrote:Why Ballack? He's scored some quite important goals in the latter stages of the CL and WC.
So has Henry...
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Ballack = Silver
Riviera wrote:BGC: Chech
Cech choked at the Euros and has choked since.Riviera wrote:Now that's not very nice Ballack. Actually, he's become an all time chocker, but he certaintly has become (prior to the injury) a big game choker.
Cech yes
Fey wrote:BGP: Kuyt Drogba, essien BGC: kluivert, huntelaar, vidic, messi, zlatan, ballack.
Alive and Kicking wrote:The match-fixing had nothing to do with Europe but it's true French teams always chock because of their looser mentality.
Back to the thread:
B.G.P: Ronaldo (fat), Zidane, Gerrard, Inzaghi, Drogba, Essien, Eto'o, Messi, Kaka, V.N.R, Raul
B.G.Ch: Henry, Rooney, Van Persie,
I wouldn't put Ribery in the chockers, he was particularly young during the WC 2006, and he usually does well in important games.
Alive and Kicking wrote:The match-fixing had nothing to do with Europe but it's true French teams always chock because of their looser mentality.
Back to the thread:
B.G.P: Ronaldo (fat), Zidane, Gerrard, Inzaghi, Drogba, Essien, Eto'o, Messi, Kaka, V.N.R, Raul
B.G.Ch: Henry, Rooney, Van Persie,
I wouldn't put Ribery in the chockers, he was particularly young during the WC 2006, and he usually does well in important games.
Kimbo wrote:Big game players:
Puyol, Kelly Smith, James, Zidane
Big game chokers:
Hagi, Peters, Van Der Sar, Puskas
EMP wrote:Kimbo wrote:Big game players:
Puyol, Kelly Smith, James, Zidane
Big game chokers:
Hagi, Peters, Van Der Sar, Puskas
On what basis? If you are referring to the 1954 World Cup final, first of all he was injured and secondly the referee disallowed a perfectly good goal by Puskas for off-side when it wasn't; that arguably changed the course of the match. By the way the blind ref was English, but not Howard Webb.
Kimbo wrote:EMP wrote:Kimbo wrote:Big game players:
Puyol, Kelly Smith, James, Zidane
Big game chokers:
Hagi, Peters, Van Der Sar, Puskas
On what basis? If you are referring to the 1954 World Cup final, first of all he was injured and secondly the referee disallowed a perfectly good goal by Puskas for off-side when it wasn't; that arguably changed the course of the match. By the way the blind ref was English, but not Howard Webb.
On the basis of me saying random names to discredit the "he's a choker" fad.
EMP wrote:Alive and Kicking wrote:The match-fixing had nothing to do with Europe but it's true French teams always chock because of their looser mentality.
Back to the thread:
B.G.P: Ronaldo (fat), Zidane, Gerrard, Inzaghi, Drogba, Essien, Eto'o, Messi, Kaka, V.N.R, Raul
B.G.Ch: Henry, Rooney, Van Persie,
I wouldn't put Ribery in the chockers, he was particularly young during the WC 2006, and he usually does well in important games.
It did. If I remember correctly, wasn't it that Valencienne's players were bribed to go easy on Marseilles in the match before the final, so Marseilles would not get players injured and were able to conserve energy as well for the final. It gave theman advantage.
EMP wrote:Kimbo wrote:EMP wrote:Kimbo wrote:Big game players:
Puyol, Kelly Smith, James, Zidane
Big game chokers:
Hagi, Peters, Van Der Sar, Puskas
On what basis? If you are referring to the 1954 World Cup final, first of all he was injured and secondly the referee disallowed a perfectly good goal by Puskas for off-side when it wasn't; that arguably changed the course of the match. By the way the blind ref was English, but not Howard Webb.
On the basis of me saying random names to discredit the "he's a choker" fad.
Fair enough.
Ballack wrote:If she means Petr Cech, she's a delusional bitch
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