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There's been heavy criticism for all of Ferdinand, Puyol and Cannavaro since the season started.
Anyone's opinions changed?
Anyone's opinions changed?
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Who is the best defender in Europe?
Parks lives- Number of posts : 34521
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NESTA
the best in the world since a long time
the best in the world since a long time
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My personal opinion :
Terry, Cannevaro, Alex...and still Stam
Terry, Cannevaro, Alex...and still Stam
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No one gets past Ben Thatcher easily.
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Deisler wrote:NESTA
the best in the world since a long time
I agree.
In normal form: Nesta
In good form: Nesta by a mile.
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Sgoater1 wrote:No one gets past Ben Thatcher easily.
I think I'm in the minority that thinks Nesta is over rated.
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Nesta is an excellent defender but people seem to forget he has been involved in several BIG games for Milan where the defence has capitulated, he is v good but not imho the best.Parks Lives wrote:Sgoater1 wrote:No one gets past Ben Thatcher easily.
I think I'm in the minority that thinks Nesta is over rated.
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Anyman who gets skinned to death by Quentin Fortune loses massive ranking points.
I accept he's one of the best, I just don't think he's by far the best.
I accept he's one of the best, I just don't think he's by far the best.
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Marquez, in my humblest of opinions, is the best there is.
Phenomenal at this WC, and has been for Barca for the last couple of seasons. Is able to play as a midfielder too, such is his ability.
Phenomenal at this WC, and has been for Barca for the last couple of seasons. Is able to play as a midfielder too, such is his ability.
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Ayala is the best IMO
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Gallas and Sagnol deserve to be in the list.Then you have the classics Puyol,Nesta,Cannavaro,Cris,Zambrota ect ect...
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If fullbacks are included, then Zambrotta is my number one. 
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Nesta for me.
... Just after Daniel Agger, that is.
... Just after Daniel Agger, that is.
doninha- Guest
Nesta for me. Cannavarro close.
S4P- Guest
Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Terry, Ferdinand, Nesta, Gallas.
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Lucio.
For me Gallas is the best because he's so versatile.
For me Gallas is the best because he's so versatile.
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Nesta has been tops for years.
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Nothing has changed. The best defender in the world, not just Europe, is and always will be,
Oleguer.
Oleguer.
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Cris, Lucio, Nesta, Gallas, Sagnol
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Top 5 CBs (no order): Gallas, Cannavaro, Nesta, Marquez, Lucio
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See this is what I don't understand. Quite a few people have said (somewhen in the past - but not so long ago) "Barcelona defence is a real weakness", yet according to this thread, they have 4 World Class defenders (something I personally think no team in the world has).
Slightly ironic eh?
Slightly ironic eh?
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If we're talking about worldwide, then Cris is as good as they come.
Otherwise Gallas is the best.
Otherwise Gallas is the best.
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S4P wrote:See this is what I don't understand. Quite a few people have said (somewhen in the past - but not so long ago) "Barcelona defence is a real weakness", yet according to this thread, they have 4 World Class defenders (something I personally think no team in the world has).
Slightly ironic eh?
the defense was the weakness because
1) our FBs were Crap and attacking
2) The CB plays on the half way line.
those two thing enable teams to hit us on the counter-attack down the flanks and Puyol and Marquez while prevent a crazy amount of those chances from becoming goals, a few had to score. so people were mistaken when they said our defense was our weakness. when in truth when we sit back a bit deeper (like we did against chelsea last season) our defense is as good as any.
now he has to World class defenders before this season Marquez and Puyol add to the our new signings Thuram and Zambo and in case you can't ccount the Equals 4
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My top 5
Ayala,Nesta,Lucio,Gallas,Puyol
Ayala,Nesta,Lucio,Gallas,Puyol
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S4P wrote:See this is what I don't understand. Quite a few people have said (somewhen in the past - but not so long ago) "Barcelona defence is a real weakness", yet according to this thread, they have 4 World Class defenders (something I personally think no team in the world has).
Slightly ironic eh?
If you play for Barcelona, your World class.
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Fuckers, wrong thread! 
Apologies lads.
Apologies lads.
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L r d- Guest
wtf why is this post here
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@ Messiah
Almost everybody (until he signed for Barcelona) said Thuram was past it (especially after the Arsenal-Juventus game)
Marquez and Zambrotta = World class for sure
Puyol I'm not so keen on. Excellent defender, but I think that if he played for any other team in Europe, he wouldn't get anywhere near the same praise he gets playing for you guys.
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PS. What I was saying is, your defence has come under a lot of stick from people (because of the way teams who could play quick, counter attacking football, were able to cut you open with relative ease most often), yet if you have 4 world class defenders, surely that makes you the best defensive side in the world? (if that's what you're implying?)
Imo, neither us nor AC Milan have 4 world class defenders (Especially now Gallas has gone, we have Terry and Boulahrouz who are WC imo, and Ashley Cole could be world class for us, but unproven in the Chelsea team yet, Bridge very underrated but not world class. Carvalho too hot and cold, Ferreira too shit... Milan have Nesta), yet we're the 2 team who are often considered 'the best defensively in Europe'
Almost everybody (until he signed for Barcelona) said Thuram was past it (especially after the Arsenal-Juventus game)
Marquez and Zambrotta = World class for sure
Puyol I'm not so keen on. Excellent defender, but I think that if he played for any other team in Europe, he wouldn't get anywhere near the same praise he gets playing for you guys.
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PS. What I was saying is, your defence has come under a lot of stick from people (because of the way teams who could play quick, counter attacking football, were able to cut you open with relative ease most often), yet if you have 4 world class defenders, surely that makes you the best defensive side in the world? (if that's what you're implying?)
Imo, neither us nor AC Milan have 4 world class defenders (Especially now Gallas has gone, we have Terry and Boulahrouz who are WC imo, and Ashley Cole could be world class for us, but unproven in the Chelsea team yet, Bridge very underrated but not world class. Carvalho too hot and cold, Ferreira too shit... Milan have Nesta), yet we're the 2 team who are often considered 'the best defensively in Europe'
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WHy is Bouhlarouz WC after three games?
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