Premier League 12-14th December 2015

Sat 12 Dec 2015

Norwich v Everton 12:45 1-2
Crystal Palace v Southampton 15:00 2-1
Man City v Swansea 15:00 2-0
Sunderland v Watford 15:00 1-1
West Ham v Stoke 15:00 1-1
Bournemouth v Man Utd 17:30 0-1

Sun 13 Dec 2015

Aston Villa v Arsenal 13:30 0-2
Liverpool v West Brom 16:00 1-0
Tottenham v Newcastle 16:00 2-1

Mon 14 Dec 2015

Leicester v Chelsea 20:00 1-3

Norwich - Everton 0:1 HT.

Another goal for Lukaku (6th in a row) and another assist for Deulofeu. But we should be leading at least 3:0, so I can smell another unlucky draw

There it is...

Jerome just missed a chance I think I would actually score. Not even joking. How is he a professional footballer in the Premier League ffs?

As predicted - 1:1 FT

I don't even know if I should call us unlucky - we've been diabolical in 2nd half.

Despite having talented team and playing very well for long stretches we are clearly not ready (yet?) to win matches on consistent basis. It sucks that we will be losing players (Stones, Lukaku) before they will be ready to achieve something with us.

Koeman still manager of the year Fey?

#Pardewed

So, Charlie Adam is going to be banned again. Stamped the hell out of Valencia, and the ref missed it.

Whilst City were poor today and got lucky with that winner, feels like this could be a pivotal moment in the title race. Had they drawn that game would've given all the teams around them considerable impetus and probably knocked them back considerably confidence wise. Instead they've kept on the pressure and ground out a result. Can't see anyone but them for the title TBH

Yep - City will win the title like they should do but only because of the mentality of the team's below them - us losing to that abomination of a Newcastle side sums shows we just aren't winners yet - Klopp has 3 years to change that.

Everton fans seem to have overestimated their team recently; yes their attack is top 4 quality (except Kone) but their midfield and defence/keeper is bottom half of the league. Everton aren't even as good as Palace or Southampton, so thinking they will finish above Liverpool, Spurs or even United/Arsenal wasn't realistic.

Expecting a turgid United display next but they will win.

We have to win our next 3 league games to be considered title candidates now. The Newcastle defeat has really hurt us.

I won't be surprised to see Leicester beat Chelsea on Monday - Chelsea seem to have given up on the league now. If Leicster win that then they are title contenders.

United lost! They really are so bad. Unreal how they're in the top 4. Didn't someone say they were miles ahead of us and Spurs in terms of quality? That's nonsense.

Villa need to start preparing for next seasons promotion push. They actually needs relegation IMO. Would change their mentality of recent years.

They surely must be down this time - they're displaying Derby like shitness and it's hard to see them even winning a game.

Arsenal doing the job though - top of the league and through in the CL, a classic Arsenal season so far.

Luis wrote:Yep - City will win the title like they should do but only because of the mentality of the team's below them - us losing to that abomination of a Newcastle side sums shows we just aren't winners yet - Klopp has 3 years to change that.

Everton fans seem to have overestimated their team recently; yes their attack is top 4 quality (except Kone) but their midfield and defence/keeper is bottom half of the league. Everton aren't even as good as Palace or Southampton, so thinking they will finish above Liverpool, Spurs or even United/Arsenal wasn't realistic.

Expecting a turgid United display next but they will win.

We have to win our next 3 league games to be considered title candidates now. The Newcastle defeat has really hurt us.

I won't be surprised to see Leicester beat Chelsea on Monday - Chelsea seem to have given up on the league now. If Leicster win that then they are title contenders.

Aston Villa is really going down. Poor Debbie

Aston Villa cant relegate, we have been hoping that for years, but they prefer to be a bottom feeder.

Ozil

Im worried about our away fixtures in the 2nd half of the season. We are at our best away from home but I can see us struggling in most of those games.

So McClaren has basically turned Newcastle into his old Boro side, wonderful.

Spurrrrrrrrrs

Spppppppuuurssss

2 points dropped for us. Awful performance on the whole - conceded two set pieces. Mingolet has cost us 8 or 9 points this season; easily the worst keeper from set pieces in the league. Klopp has to make this position his first priority in January.

Amazingly we've not lost any ground on Spurs, United or Leicester/Chelsea.

Leicester can go 9 points clear of 5th tomorrow.

For as long as I live I will never really understand how we put a man on the moon in the 60s when we had 12bit computers the size of warehouses. Equally I will never understand why we keep losing at home to Newcastle, no matter how shit they are. Bar Elliot in goal they were absolute bobbins for 70minutes, then realizing we couldn't kill the game off if we played until midnight, suddenly started to play like fucking Barcelona.

On the plus side at least those "can Spurs win that Title?" articles will now f**k off. We may make 4th at a push, any other talk is utterly ridiculous. Squad can barely cope with the PL on its own let alone Europa and any other competitions. Spectacularly wasteful then mentally and physically broken performance.

Still, above Southampton (Koeman legend) and Liverpool which is nice, so not time yet to consider this a total write off of a season.

The Pröfessör wrote:Ozil

Im worried about our away fixtures in the 2nd half of the season. We are at our best away from home but I can see us struggling in most of those games.

Ozil

More worried about how many chances we've conceded in the past few games. Flamini is ok but it's too easy to bypass him as he lacks the athleticism of Coquelin. And I don't think him and Ramsey is a particularly balanced partnership because neither of them build play from deep effectively. Ramsey needs to stay in CM though as he's a beast generally and has a ridiculous engine. It's imperative we sign a deep-lying CM in January. Someone like Ruben Nerves/Carvalho which will allow Ramsey to do his thing and link up with Ozil higher up the pitch.

Luis wrote:2 points dropped for us. Awful performance on the whole - conceded two set pieces. Mingolet has cost us 8 or 9 points this season; easily the worst keeper from set pieces in the league. Klopp has to make this position his first priority in January.

Amazingly we've not lost any ground on Spurs, United or Leicester/Chelsea.

Leicester can go 9 points clear of 5th tomorrow.

Unfortunately I know someone even worse

I would probably swap Howard for Mignolet these days

Leicester

Mahrez

Okay so there's the one question about when we start taking Leicester seriously for title/top 4. But when do we start taking Chelsea seriously as relegation candidates? They are a mixture of fading scumbags (Terry, Costa, Ivanovic) and talented players with chronic lack of form (Fabregas, Hazard, Oscar). The only bad thing about them going down would be that we'd still have to play the c**ts next year

Very, very difficult to see Chelsea getting relegated. How aften you have teams with this level of talent going down? They will be alright in the end, still think they can finish TOP 10 quite easily.

I've seen some comparisons to last season Borussia Dortmund and their run for Europea League places, but Klopp team had it much better because of winter break - good time to re-group and install some new ideas and players. No time for this in England.

Absolutely no chance of Chelsea going down.

They will finish 9th.