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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 2:14 pm

    Answer the bloody poll. ok


    Names take from here Arrow http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/football-specials/next-man-city-manager/next-permanent-manager
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 2:28 pm

    I cant see it being Coleman or Jewell. My money would be on one of Ranieri, Koeman or Houlier, its anyones guess at the moment but id go with Koeman.

    My main choice would be Hiddink or Van Gaal, or Sven but really but Houllier, Koeman or Ranieri are very good managers and would be decent.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 2:38 pm

    I have also read that we have been linked with Lippi and Cappello, obviously id love either but i dont think there is any chance at all that one of them would be our new boss.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 2:40 pm

    I think realistically it's between Houllier, Sven, Coleman, Jewell, and Davies.
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    Post by Parks lives Tue May 15, 2007 2:42 pm

    Billy Davies deserves a chance with a Premiership club. ok
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    Post by Since 1888 Tue May 15, 2007 4:03 pm

    You might have a small chance with Koeman. Just a small chance though. vGaal is very unlikely.
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    Post by Axeslammer Tue May 15, 2007 4:27 pm

    Who made that list and in what reality does he live ?

    Nothing wrong with City, but it is a way too small a club for at least half the managers on that list...
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 15, 2007 4:29 pm

    city really is a true sleeping giant unlike them geordie fookers, it is a huge club with superb support through thick and thin unlike the black and white minstrels.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 4:45 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:city really is a true sleeping giant unlike them geordie fookers, it is a huge club with superb support through thick and thin unlike the black and white minstrels.

    Care to back that up with anything? Twat. <Ale>
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 4:46 pm

    Axeslammer wrote:Who made that list and in what reality does he live ?

    Nothing wrong with City, but it is a way too small a club for at least half the managers on that list...

    It's just a list of the favourites with the bookmakers. Some of the names, like Van Gaal and Hiddink, are never going to go to City though.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 15, 2007 4:47 pm

    kimbo i´m 38 i remember when your attendances were dismal in lower divisions unlike city who when they went down were still well supported
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 4:49 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:kimbo i´m 38 i remember when your attendances were dismal in lower divisions unlike city who when they went down were still well supported

    Bring up some numbers then, facts. ok

    BTW, Newcastle have been selling out a 52k seater this season, Man City haven't been selling out their stadium. Funny eh? Ale
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 4:58 pm

    Anyway Frank, by my calculations you were 12 when we recorded our lowest ever average attendence(16k in 1980). That's some memory you've got there. <Ale>


    http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufchistory/nufcattendancerecords.shtml
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 15, 2007 5:00 pm

    at that time you were consistantly having low attendances it wasn´t just a one off. my memory is pretty good on footy shame i didn´t retain other information as well i could have made a fewquid from it. although i also remember utd getting about 23k v charlton which included sth who didn´t turn up another load of band wagon jumpers
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 5:03 pm

    Those stats look just fine to me, especially when you consider how small and crappy our stadium used to be.

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    We're also 7th in the all-time attendence league. All you're doing is spouting a myth tbh. <Ale>
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    Post by fcb Tue May 15, 2007 5:36 pm

    I think it'll be Ranieri or Houllier.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Tue May 15, 2007 5:37 pm

    i went for ranieri as i can´t see houllier coming back to england
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 5:59 pm

    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:city really is a true sleeping giant unlike them geordie fookers, it is a huge club with superb support through thick and thin unlike the black and white minstrels.

    Cheers Frank <Ale>
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    Post by DS Tue May 15, 2007 6:00 pm

    Van Gaal would be good.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 6:01 pm

    Cant believe 4 people voted Jewell, he wont manage anyone for the next few months, i really believe he woldnt lie to Whelan.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 6:02 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    The-Frank-Tavern wrote:city really is a true sleeping giant unlike them geordie fookers, it is a huge club with superb support through thick and thin unlike the black and white minstrels.

    Cheers Frank <Ale>

    I'd love to hear why Frank thinks City have bigger potential than Newcastle. I won't hold my breath though.
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    Post by debaser Tue May 15, 2007 6:07 pm

    city are probably a season or two behind newcastle in that newcastle have a better squad right now, but with money and a good boss, they could catch up. both have big potential, whether they will live up to it is another matter.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 6:10 pm

    debaser wrote:city are probably a season or two behind newcastle in that newcastle have a better squad right now, but with money and a good boss, they could catch up. both have big potential, whether they will live up to it is another matter.

    And a much higher income, which, lets face it, is what potential is measured in.
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    Post by debaser Tue May 15, 2007 6:28 pm

    i don't know if it's all that different. they're not far behind you in this:

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2007/34/biz_07soccer_Soccer-Team-Valuations_Rank.html

    if they were selling out their stadium, they'd only be a few thousand behind your attendance.

    not arguing they're bigger than newcastle, just that they're in the same ball-park in terms of potential. along with spurs, villa and west ham. and everton, i suppose. although they might get left behind if everyone else gets takeovers
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 6:30 pm

    Over £20m a year behind in income.

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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 6:34 pm

    Kimbo wrote:Over £20m a year behind in income.

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    Maybe you should check the dates, its not 2005-06 mate ! Very Happy
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    Post by Kimbo Tue May 15, 2007 6:35 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:Over £20m a year behind in income.

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    Maybe you should check the dates, its not 2005-06 mate ! Very Happy

    We haven't had this seasons figures yet, obviously. They'll come out later in the year.
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 6:36 pm

    Our operating income is only 2m behind you !



    Rank Team Country Current Value 1 ($mil) Debt/Value 2(%) 1-Yr Value Chamge(%) Revenue ($mil) Operating Income 3($mil)
    1 Manchester United England 1,453 84 6 310 92
    2 Real Madrid Spain 1,036 10 2 374 83
    3 Arsenal England 915 53 9 246 20
    4 Bayern Munich Germany 838 0 9 262 62
    5 AC Milan Italy 824 0 -10 305 46
    6 Juventus Italy 567 17 -18 321 45
    7 Internazionale Milan Italy 555 NA 10 264 26
    8 Chelsea England 537 28 6 283 -37
    9 Barcelona Spain 535 12 22 331 12
    10 Schalke 04 Germany 471 53 45 157 37
    11 Liverpool England 454 18 28 225 37
    12 Olympique Lyonnais France 343 NA 65 163 10
    13 Newcastle United England 260 46 -14 159 11
    14 Tottenham Hotspur England 243 0 27 137 9
    15 AS Roma Italy 224 0 -15 162 53
    16 Hamburg SV Germany 221 NA NA 130 31
    17 Manchester City England 208 83 -6 114 9
    18 Borussia Dortmund Germany 199 126 61 114 1
    19 Ajax Amsterdam Netherland 196 0 13 95 9
    20 Celtic Scotland 185 14 18 106 7
    21 Everton England 165 32 34 107 -15
    22 Olympique Marseille France 157 NA NA 105 6
    23 West Ham United England 156 27 NA 111 6
    24 Glasgow Rangers Scotland 147 7 32 113 12
    25 Aston Villa England 140 16 16 91 -21
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    Post by Sgoater1 Tue May 15, 2007 6:36 pm

    Once we get rid of our debt we will make shed loads !
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    Post by Deano Tue May 15, 2007 6:37 pm

    We only hold 36,000 though. Newcastle can fit another 15,000 fans in their stadium.

    I'm sure we'd fill a stadium that big too. Not having a go or on a wind up, just stating certain factors.


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