DO YOU SMELL A RAT?

It sure looks like Mourinho does.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/7004279.stm

Can we not merge this with another Maureen thread?

Parks lives wrote:Can we not merge this with another Maureen thread?

If it makes you feel better, go ahead bada bing bada dumb.

2nd in the league.
1st in the predictions.

Parks lives wrote:2nd in the league.
1st in the predictions.

Yeah I know you're kicking some ass. Keep it up!

He has such a Jew face its insane. He could play the dad of Ben Stiller in one of those unfunny American comedies.

Fey wrote:He has such a Jew face its insane. He could play the dad of Ben Stiller in one of those unfunny American comedies.

Do you think the Jew (Avram) had something to do with Mourinho's firing? Some people I've talked to are CONVINCED the Jew set him up, snitching shite back to Roman.

That's the rumor in Portugal also.

There's no doubt about it. The moment the Jew started to become too involved in the training sessions it looked obvious what his "mission" was.

I'm reluctantly willing to give Grant a chance but he is like 99% of all Jews - a c**t.

Puro wrote:

Fey wrote:He has such a Jew face its insane. He could play the dad of Ben Stiller in one of those unfunny American comedies.

Do you think the Jew (Avram) had something to do with Mourinho's firing? Some people I've talked to are CONVINCED the Jew set him up, snitching shite back to Roman.

Wouldnt surprise me at all!! He really looks like the guy who stabbed a Chelsea dagger up Mourinho's back!!

You can say what you want buy Maureen is like van Gaal, you love to hate him...but you cant really live without them.

whats the point of this thread? cant sort it out!

Cking wrote:whats the point of this thread? cant sort it out!

"smell a rat" is a phrase used to mean there's something "fishy" going on in the background. ie. Puro is suggesting (as are many others) that Avram Grant was actually a spy in the Chelsea dressing room, reporting back to Abramovich on what Mourinho was up to, and that potentially was one of the big reasons for Mourinho's departure.

Here's another for you kas. Pizarro said something earlier that I'm trying to figure out. I think I've got it now. That new guy is definitely a cocksucker, a brownoser.

What do you say Fey?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=482868&in_page_id=1779

Puro wrote:Here's another for you kas. Pizarro said something earlier that I'm trying to figure out. I think I've got it now. That new guy is definitely a cocksucker, a brownoser.

What do you say Fey?

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Clearly a Rat!!! He is Salvatore Bonpensiero aka Big Pussy

But in the end its a good move for Chelsea, when a succesful coach moves out its usually smart to bring a coach of lower pedigree in. This way he will get the blame when it goes wrong and a the big coaches with reputation comes in later....

Barcelona are a good example of this, a the succesful Dutchie moves out...they bring some Spanish/Catelan cannon fodder in to make sure he will get bad results. This way the board will have no problem with signing another Dutchie

Chelsea Q&A
Jonathan Legard

By Jonathan Legard
BBC Radio 5live Football Correspondent

Jose Mourinho's three-year career as manager of Chelsea ended suddenly on Thursday.

The club announced that the relationship between the coach and billionaire owner Roman Abramovich had broken down.

The BBC's Jonathan Legard looks at the issues behind the departure of Mourinho, who has been replaced by the club's director of football Avram Grant.

Why wasn't Roman Abramovich happy with Mourinho?

Abramovich had become frustrated by the lack of swashbuckling football Chelsea were playing. He wants Chelsea to play with style and adventure.

In Mourinho's first season they landed the Premier League title with a brand of exciting football, with Damien Duff and Arjen Robben on the wings, scoring goals, thrilling crowds and beating Barcelona.

Roman Abramovich

Abramovich was unhappy with the lack of entertainment on offer
That swashbuckling style has not been forthcoming since then.

Abramovich wants the stadium to be full and he wants to see people enjoying the football his team provides.

To see the ground half-empty this week really rankled with him.

Jose Mourinho, on the other hand, is all about results. If it is achieved with style that is a bonus, but victory is all and Abramovich has found that hard to take.

He has also become frustrated by Mourinho's ego. He didn't like the fact that he was getting involved in so many controversial scrapes - the spats with Arsene Wenger and not shaking hands with Rafael Benitez.

He thought it was lowering the tone and that was one of the planks of supposed reconciliation in the summer.

But toning it down is not Mourinho's style.

What about the impact of Mourinho's relationship with Shevchenko?

The owner was shocked by Mourinho's criticism of Andriy Shevchenko, who is like a brother to Abramovich.

He does not believe the striker was shown enough respect and felt the manager did not help his introduction to English football.

That's why he brought in Avram Grant - to give Shevchenko the support he wanted and that one-to-one coaching and attention.

Even in the last week Mourinho was dismissive of Shevchenko telling him he needed to improve.

Here was a player who has won the Golden Boot in Europe and is one of the world's most fearsome strikers, and he was being treated like Salomon Kalou.

Was Avram Grant moved in as director of football by Abramovich deliberately to fill Mourinho's boots?

It certainly appears very convenient considering he was sized up for the role for some time, and it certainly inflamed the relationship between Abramovich and Mourinho.

If Abramovich really was serious about sorting out their problems he would not have brought him in.

Mourinho found it unsettling and unnecessary to have this appointment.

He is a European Cup-winning coach, has won Premier League titles and is one of the brightest coaching talents of his generation.

He did not need any help - now three months later Grant is in charge.

What about the reported row between John Terry and Mourinho?

I understand there were words between the two, but I do not think that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

What will be interesting is the relationship between Avram Grant and the players.

Jose Mourinho

Mourinho missed out on the Champions League

For all the occasional training ground arguments, Jose Mourinho was revered and appreciated by the squad.

He was a galvanising force and an inspiration and now he has gone.

Didier Drogba is said to have burst into tears when Mourinho came in to speak to the players.

We saw how much faith Mourinho showed in Drogba and he repaid him last season.

The concern for Chelsea is how much the breakdown between the owner and coach will impact on current players, particularly with contract talks currently ongoing with Frank Lampard.

Is Abramovich surrounding himself with friends and "yes men" and is that the best way forward?

As one source said to me, Chelsea could become England's equivalent of Hearts - a billionaire owner who buys the players, picks the team and allows a friend to play with the tactics.

Chelsea are becoming his team on the pitch as much as his club.

Abramovich has his own scouting system, which was another cause for concern for Mourinho.

The manager did not want to buy the likes of Shevchenko, Khalid Boulahrouz and Alex and did not want William Gallas and Robert Huth to be sold.

What happens if Chelsea's results do not improve?

Someone close to the club has predicted meltdown if results go wrong against Manchester United and Valencia.

The Champions League is of huge significance in particular as the final is in Moscow and where best to show off his mighty Chelsea than back home in Russia.

They have got off to a sticky start and cannot afford to slip up against Valencia, which was the scene of such a resilient performance last season when they won 2-1 to go through to the semi-finals.

Can you see Abromovich walking away?

Not at the moment. If anything you could argue he has the club just where he wants it - he is firmly in charge and calling the shots in the boardroom and the dressing room.

If he is still determined to win the Champions League twice in the first 10 years of his dynasty, the responsibility is falling squarely on his shoulders.

He has got rid of the man who has the pedigree you need to achieve his ambitions.

He has replaced him with someone whose record does not compare and there has to be a suspicion he is Chelsea's answer to Les Reed at Charlton last season.

I could be proved wrong - Grant's Israel side remained unbeaten in their World Cup qualifiers, but his only victories were against Cyprus and the Faroe Isles.

Is that sufficient to take on the likes of Manchester United, Barcelona and AC Milan?

kas wrote:

Cking wrote:whats the point of this thread? cant sort it out!

"smell a rat" is a phrase used to mean there's something "fishy" going on in the background. ie. Puro is suggesting (as are many others) that Avram Grant was actually a spy in the Chelsea dressing room, reporting back to Abramovich on what Mourinho was up to, and that potentially was one of the big reasons for Mourinho's departure.

those two fuckers are so miscreant that they were keeping an close eye on Mourinho. Since you chose him as a manager, you should put ur trust on him,in turn which can make him more confident on himself.

An Chinese saying is qouted as saying:" Suspect ppl are not to be hired, ppl that have been hired should not be suspected anymore".

who are candidates for those two morons next boss?

Why are you guys such a bunch of racists?

Are you all thick?

Freddie Or Not wrote:Why are you guys such a bunch of racists?

Are you all thick?

Agree why all the Jew bashing on here

If you had all the money in the world and wanted to own a Football club would you not want your team to play exciting football??? Mourinho plays boring footy....True story

Brian2468 wrote:If you had all the money in the world and wanted to own a Football club would you not want your team to play exciting football??? Mourinho plays boring footy....True story

You cant play exciting footy with pressure on you from all sides. they were an exciting team when they beat barca 4-2

Brian2468 wrote:If you had all the money in the world and wanted to own a Football club would you not want your team to play exciting football??? Mourinho plays boring footy....True story

Mourinho wins titles. True story. Let's see how many titles will Chelsea win, now that he is gone. Exciting football or not....

That 4-2 Barcelona game was one of only a few games that Chelsea opened up. I know top teams have to win titles and Mourinho did this. His system was boring and I hate boring footy to get results, me it is cheating the players the fans and the developement of footy. But like anything having contrasting teams will make for a few good games......

As for Pressure on Mourinho what else would he expect becoming the Chelsea Manager? It was time for him to move on Roman Abramovich layed on the beef to hard and seemed to have to many fingers in the pie. Between the two they really let there ego's get in front of the club. Shame both could not see that to the fans Chelsea football club means everything and neither had the ability to compromise.

If I remember correctly, in the 4-2 game, their first 3 (quickfire) goals all came from counter-attacks, didn't they? I know the first one definitely did because Xavi was robbed of the ball in a dangerous position.