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The ones to watch out for

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The ones to watch out for

by Machiavel Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:28 pm

I know the European Championships is a good couple of months away but let’s start discussing who will be the players to watch out for

My players to watch out for:

Austria - Roland Linz
Switzerland - Frei , Yakın , Senderos
Poland - Smolarek , Sobolewski
Portugal - Ricardo Qauresma , Cristiano Ronaldo , Hugo Almeida
Italy - Pirlo , Toni , De Rossi , Di Natale
France - Henry , Malouda , Ribery
Greece - Basinas , Charisteas , Stelios
Turkey - Emre , Altıntop , Şahin
Czech Republic - Baroš , Rosický
Germany - Klose , Frings , Gomez , Podolski
Croatia - Olić , Modrićv , Eduardo
Russia - Arshavin , Sychev , Zhirkov
Spain - Ramos , Iniesta , Villa
Seeden - Källström , Ibrahimović
Romania - Dică , Goian , Mutu
Netherlands - Van der Vaart , van Persie , Van Nistelrooy

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Since 1888 Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:02 pm

Unknown players is far more interesting.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by forza_rossi Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:04 pm

Raifael wrote:I know the European Championships is a good couple of months away but let’s start discussing who will be the players to watch out for

My players to watch out for:

Austria - Roland Linz
Switzerland - Frei , Yakın , Senderos, Barnetta
Poland - Smolarek , Sobolewski
Portugal - Ricardo Qauresma , Cristiano Ronaldo , Hugo Almeida
Italy - Pirlo , Toni , De Rossi , Di Natale, Rossi
France - Henry , Malouda , Ribery
Greece - Basinas , Charisteas , Stelios
Turkey - Emre , Altıntop , Şahin
Czech Republic - Baroš , Rosický
Germany - Klose , Frings , Gomez , Podolski, Mertesecker
Croatia - Olić , Modrićv , Eduardo
Russia - Arshavin , Sychev , Zhirkov
Spain - Ramos , Iniesta , Villa, Cesc
Seeden - Källström , Ibrahimović
Romania - Dică , Goian , Mutu
Netherlands - Van der Vaart , van Persie , Van Nistelrooy

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by TM Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:04 pm

Guiza (Esp)
Makulala (Port)
Riera (Esp)
Nasri (Fra)
De Natalie (Ita)
Boswinga (Por)

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by TM Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:15 pm

Since 1888 wrote:Unknown players is far more interesting.

<Ale>

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by The Easter Bunny Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:11 pm

TM wrote:Guiza (Esp)
Makulala (Port)
Riera (Esp)
Nasri (Fra)
De Natalie (Ita)
Boswinga (Por)

Boswinga has looked good in a fe games I have seem him.
Nasri, I really hopes he starts at Euro 08 have only seen clips and the odd 45 minutes so hopefully he will be a starter.

Are we talking about Sito Riera the Barca player

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Hlebagone Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:13 pm

Espanyol isn't it?

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by DeLux Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:14 pm

Albert Riera - Espanyol, formerly of Man Citeh.

Croatia - Madzukovic
Poland - Błaszczykowski
Austria - Ivanschitz

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Hlebagone Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:17 pm

Benzema for France...

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Fey Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:41 pm

Holland: Dirk Kuyt, RVP, Luigi Bruins and perhaps De Guzman Ale

Ale

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Pierre Littbarski Fri Nov 23, 2007 9:37 pm

Raifael wrote:I know the European Championships is a good couple of months away but let’s start discussing who will be the players to watch out for

My players to watch out for:

Austria - Roland Linz
Switzerland - ~~Frei~~ , Yakın , ~~Senderos~~
Poland - Smolarek , Sobolewski
Portugal - Ricardo Qauresma , Cristiano Ronaldo , Hugo Almeida
Italy - Pirlo , Toni , De Rossi , Di Natale, Aquilani
France - ~~Henry~~ , Malouda , Ribery
Greece - Basinas , Charisteas , Stelios
Turkey - Emre , Altıntop , Şahin
Czech Republic - Baroš , Rosický
Germany - Klose , Frings , Gomez , Podolski
Croatia - Olić , Modrićv , Eduardo, Kranjcar
Russia - Arshavin , Sychev , Zhirkov
Spain - Ramos , Iniesta , Villa
Seeden - Källström , Ibrahimović
Romania - Dică , Goian , Mutu
Netherlands - Van der Vaart , van Persie , ~~Van Nistelrooy~~

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Z&H Sat Nov 24, 2007 12:12 am

The most dangerous Polish footballers play for Germany Doh

Doh

Sobolewski has retired from international squad a few days ago Sad

Sad

Good call on Błaszczykowski though

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Kimbo Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:18 am

Do we really have to watch out for these guys? I mean we know most of them pretty well. scratch

scratch

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by A & K Sat Nov 24, 2007 2:33 am

Raifael wrote:I know the European Championships is a good couple of months away but let’s start discussing who will be the players to watch out for

My players to watch out for:

Austria - Roland Linz
Switzerland - Frei , Yakın , Senderos
Poland - Smolarek , Sobolewski
Portugal - Ricardo Qauresma , Cristiano Ronaldo , Hugo Almeida
Italy - Pirlo , Toni , De Rossi , Di Natale
France - ~~Henry~~ , ~~Malouda~~ , Ribery, Ben Arfa, Benzema, Nasri
Greece - Basinas , Charisteas , Stelios
Turkey - Emre , Altıntop , Şahin
Czech Republic - Baroš , Rosický
Germany - Klose , Frings , Gomez , Podolski
Croatia - Olić , Modrićv , Eduardo
Russia - Arshavin , Sychev , Zhirkov
Spain - Ramos , Iniesta , Villa
Seeden - Källström , Ibrahimović
Romania - Dică , Goian , Mutu
Netherlands - Van der Vaart , van Persie , Van Nistelrooy

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by DeLux Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:28 pm

Greece - Gekas

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Pierre Littbarski Sat Nov 24, 2007 1:54 pm

@ A & K:

4-5-1

........Toulalan.......L.Diarra.....

Ben Arfa...... Nasri...........Ribery

.................Benzema.................

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by A & K Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:10 pm

I think all these players, except Ribery will be on the bench, because they are rather young and unexperienced at the higher level.
Upfront Henry and Anelka will be paired, Vieira will be playing with Makelele, and Malouda will be prefered to Ben Arfa. This line up is more likely to be implemented for the wc 2010.
I still think Ben Arfa should be tried rather than Malouda because he offers more danger upfront. As for Nasri I don't really know if he could be useful.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by The Pröfessör Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:03 pm

Pierre Littbarski wrote:@ A & K:

4-5-1

........Toulalan.......L.Diarra.....

Ben Arfa...... Nasri...........Ribery

.................Benzema.................

Anelka will be France's best player and will be one of the players of the tournament, that's the feeling i have.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Pierre Littbarski Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:05 pm

Agooner wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:@ A & K:

4-5-1

........Toulalan.......L.Diarra.....

Ben Arfa...... Nasri...........Ribery

.................Benzema.................

Anelka will be France's best player and will be one of the players of the tournament, that's the feeling i have.

Its a good point 'cos he's not very old and could play instead of Benzema.

No one seemed to expect France to do well at WC but they did because they had the experience.

However, while I'm a believer that its hard to win the big tournies with youth, it would be beneficial for them long term to play the youngsters.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by 3zycupid Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:45 pm

Italy - Pirlo , Toni , De Rossi , Di Natale, Aquilani

Ale

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by A & K Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:58 am

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Agooner wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:@ A & K:

4-5-1

........Toulalan.......L.Diarra.....

Ben Arfa...... Nasri...........Ribery

.................Benzema.................

Anelka will be France's best player and will be one of the players of the tournament, that's the feeling i have.

Its a good point 'cos he's not very old and could play instead of Benzema.

No one seemed to expect France to do well at WC but they did because they had the experience.

However, while I'm a believer that its hard to win the big tournies with youth, it would be beneficial for them long term to play the youngsters.

Yes, it will be beneficial, for sure. They lack international level.
One good thing at least is that they are all playing champions leagues games, so that's a good experience. They have played several international games as well, but not against top teams.
Amongst the young ones I believe Ben Arfa could be the surprised though.
During the Korea peace cup he played magnificently against River plate and Bolton, he also did very well against Stuttgart in the champions league. What France lack is clearly on the left attacking side.

Anelka could be a surprise as well. You did well to mention it, a gooner. He has scored quite a lot of goals for both Bolton and France. His partnership with Henry is much better than with Henry-Trezeguet or Henry-Cisse. He seems to have mature a bit.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:52 pm

Some of the lessor known or lessor rated ones...

Austria: Aufhauser
Switzerland: Yakin, Behrami
Poland: Smolarek
Italy: Aquilani, Palladino
France: Ben Afra, Benzema
Turkey: Altıntop
Germany: Gomez, Jansen
Croatia: Kranjcar
Spain: Silva

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by EM Seleção e Selecção Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:12 pm

Austria:Andreas Ivanschitz
Switzerland: Johan Vonlathen
Poland: Leo Beenhakker
Italy: Riccardo Montolivo
Portugal: Miguel Veloso
France: Karim Benzema
Turkey: Arda
Croatia: Corluka
Spain: Bojan Krkic
Germany: Mario Gomez Garcia
Romania: Dica
Czech Rep: Suchy
Russia: Bystrov/Zhirkov
Holland: De Guzman?/Drenthe
Greece: King Otto
Sweden: Elmander

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Kimbo Sun Nov 25, 2007 5:15 pm

EMPortuguese wrote:
Germany: Mario Gomez Garcia

I can't wait to see this "teuton" in action.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Calidad Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:13 pm

bluenine wrote:Some of the lessor known or lessor rated ones...

Austria: Aufhauser
Switzerland: Yakin, Behrami
Poland: Smolarek
Italy: Aquilani, Palladino
France: Ben Afra, Benzema
Turkey: Altıntop
Germany: Gomez, Jansen
Croatia: Kranjcar
Spain: Silva

Who do you think is better; Aquilani or Montolivo?

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Pierre Littbarski Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:22 pm

Calidad wrote:

bluenine wrote:Some of the lessor known or lessor rated ones...

Austria: Aufhauser
Switzerland: Yakin, Behrami
Poland: Smolarek
Italy: Aquilani, Palladino
France: Ben Afra, Benzema
Turkey: Altıntop
Germany: Gomez, Jansen
Croatia: Kranjcar
Spain: Silva

Who do you think is better; Aquilani or Montolivo?

They're too different IMO.

Aquilani will take over the Pirlo role eventually whilst Montolivo will play further forward.

I would say Aquilani as I think he will be a true World Class player and although he isn't that young he will be a late-peaker.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:29 pm

Its a very tough call. Aquilani is more of a finished product than Montolivo at the mo, but on talent I think Montolivo shades it. For Euro2008, I think Aquilani would be better (and I think he has a much better chance of making the squad, if he comes back from injury in good form). But 3-5 years down the line, I think Montolivo will be the better player of the two.

Among this new breed of talented attacking players (from last years azzurini) - Rosina, Foggia, Montolivo, Aquilani, Palladino, & Pazzini, I would rate them as follows:

Chances of making the Euro2008 squad:
Aquilani > Foggia > Palladino > Rosina > Montolivo > Pazzini

In terms of talent in the respective roles, IMO:
Rosina > Montolivo > Aquilani = Foggia > Pazzini = Palladino

But this is all speculative, things can change as these players are still clearly developing. They are all very talented, and they all could go on to become regulars in the future for azzuri.

Calidad wrote:

Who do you think is better; Aquilani or Montolivo?

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by bluenine Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:30 pm

Actually they are not that different, both can play the Pirlo role. IMO Montolivo is more like Pirlo than Aquilani. Pirlo in his young days also started in a Kaka-isque role. Montolivo has a very similar vision of space and passing ability.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:
They're too different IMO.

Aquilani will take over the Pirlo role eventually whilst Montolivo will play further forward.

I would say Aquilani as I think he will be a true World Class player and although he isn't that young he will be a late-peaker.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by Tweesus Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:32 pm

Montolivo probably isn't as good on the ball as Pirlo though - in terms of striking it and manipulating it. I know he's young and can improve that. Obviously though, he has more of a physical element to his game than Pirlo.

Re the question, Aquilani by quite a way for me. Agree with Pierre that he *could* become a top class player.

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Re: The ones to watch out for

by EM Seleção e Selecção Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:35 am

i made a mistake i don't want to nominate Benzema i put Valbuena name forward instead

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