your favourite national team and game

come on, chaps

let's have it

for me it would have to be the Germany of 1980-1982

when we still had geniuses like Schuster, Rummenigge, Fischer, Kaltz and Hrubesch

with real men like Schumacher, Briegel, Foerster...

THE game of that era was the SEMI against France in 1982

when we beat Platini's Les Bleus on penalties after having trailed 0:1 in normal time and then 1:3 in extra time

Fischer then scored arguably the greatest goal of all time, an overhead scissor kick , Dummenigge who was still injured did the rest and it was 3:3

Stielike missed a penalty, but Schumacher and Hrubesch kept their nerves

even 1990 and 1996 cannot beat our 80s lads

wahre G

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what are the favourite years and games of your national team

Germany in 1990 was pretty awesome..Germany in 1994 as well. But perhaps the Germany in 1976 had more depth then all those..

I just cant choose There are just too many good Germanys!!!!

I'd have to go with England 1990, because it was not only a very good team, full of talented players - Waddles, Barnes, Gazza, Beardsley, Lineker. It was also the first International tournament I really followed aged 9.

Better side than Germany 1990 as well.

Argentina 94, favourite team of all time. just soo much talent...and all gone, like that :snaps fingers:

Diego, Batistuta, Redondo, Caniggia, Simeone...all favourite players of mine...



incidentally, I watched the final of the Euro of 72 yesterday, West Germany vs USSR

fucking ace of a game...beckenbauer was a fucking genius

I'm just a tad too young to remember WC 1990, but I believe that to be the best England team of my lifetime.

Euro '96 was my favourite though - Ince, gazza, Anderton, McManaman, Sheringham....

Romania in 1994: Hagi, Belodedici, Raducioiu, Dumitrescu, Gica Popescu, Dan Petrescu

Favorite game: 3-2 against Argentina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNliThxA7c

Only followed internation football briefly in 98 but the team Denmark had was pretty good but went out to a fine brazil team. my other favourite team was Italy in 2000 which was the tournament that really got me into football and the game against Holland which was super. alot of tension and excitment with the right winner in the end.

Oranje had a good team in 1998, shame about the penalties .. Cocu was God back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjmeQf-YLXw

Cocu, Overmars, Bergkamp, Kluivert, Davids, Seedorf, Stam, Frank de Boer .. too much, too much

Super Madrid wrote:Only followed internation football briefly in 98 but the team Denmark had was pretty good but went out to a fine brazil team. my other favourite team was Italy in 2000 which was the tournament that really got me into football and the game against Holland which was super. alot of tension and excitment with the right winner in the end.

I have to hate you right now because of:
1 you are a madridista (good reason to hate you)
2 that semis in 2000 is my biggest nightmare ever! I'm still not over it....!

Italy had a $h!t team and they didn't WIN (so....it is impossible they were the right winner) but we LOST that game.

Zico's Brazil is my favourite team

Holland - Czech Republic 2-3 (Euro 2004) is my favourite international match

My favourite national team is the 1972 German national team that won the European Championship (Germany's first participation), with Beckenbauer, Müller, Heynckes, Maier, Vogts and especially Netzer at their peak. This was undoubtedly the best Mannschaft ever, the most creative, most attacking and most dominant side we ever had. The main difference to the 1974 WC winning side, which was awesome also, was Netzer in excellent form pulling the strings in the midfield, instead of Overath, another great but lesser genius of a player.

My favourite match of that tournament was the 3-1 masterclass at Wembley, because of the quality of football played, and because of the significance of it. The first German national team to ever win there; England were more or less our bogey team before that match (despite the 1970 win), and we all know what happened after that.


My second favourite team is the 1980 EC winning side with a 20 year old Schuster taking the football world by storm, being voted as the best player of the tournament, Allofs and Hansi Müller playing some great stuff, Briegel and Hrubesch unstoppable.
Sadly, this was the only major tournament Schuster played for Germany, that's why the 1980 team should not be confused with the 1982 WC finalists, which was a different team on key positions . The 1982 side is responsible for the negative image die Mannschaft has abroad, due to the Battiston incident, the "Nichtangriffspakt" against Austria etc. Before that tournament, German football had a completely different image, so it's difficult to have sympathies for them.

My favourite match of the 1980 EC is the 3-2 win over Holland, with Schuster being simply brilliant, Allofs scoring a hattrick, some of the best football we ever played.

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Both teams were before my lifetime though. I have watched all matches of those tournaments on tape, but was too young to watch them live. The best Mannschaft in my lifetime was undoubtedly the 1990 WC winning side (with my favourite player ever, Littbarski, at his peak), but the 1996 EC win was probably more significant due to the circumstances of it (huge injury crisis throughout the tournament, hostile environment ("For you Fritz ze Euro 96 iz over") etc.


My favourite non-German national teams are Argentina 1986 (Maradona! The first tournament I really watched), Brazil 1982, Romania 1994 (Hagi!) and Holland 1998 (cheered for them after Germany got knocked out). Probably a lot more sides I liked but don't remember now.

Gone wrote:Romania in 1994: Hagi, Belodedici, Raducioiu, Dumitrescu, Gica Popescu, Dan Petrescu

Favorite game: 3-2 against Argentina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNliThxA7c

Love that game. I could sell football with that. Amazing.

Khadrim wrote:

Gone wrote:Romania in 1994: Hagi, Belodedici, Raducioiu, Dumitrescu, Gica Popescu, Dan Petrescu

Favorite game: 3-2 against Argentina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNliThxA7c

Love that game. I could sell football with that. Amazing.

Ooh, that game : that's a classic indeed

Great, entertaining match

RicardoJol wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:Only followed internation football briefly in 98 but the team Denmark had was pretty good but went out to a fine brazil team. my other favourite team was Italy in 2000 which was the tournament that really got me into football and the game against Holland which was super. alot of tension and excitment with the right winner in the end.

I have to hate you right now because of:
1 you are a madridista (good reason to hate you)
2 that semis in 2000 is my biggest nightmare ever! I'm still not over it....!

Italy had a $h!t team and they didn't WIN (so....it is impossible they were the right winner) but we LOST that game.

Sorry i feel very sorry for Holland which was cleary the best team in the tournament. i just have a feeling with Italy because of my parents. always hope Holland goes far except if they meet Italy.
I do have a good feeling though that Holland will suprise everyone since they had a bad qualifier and people are on Van Bastens ass. of course if he uses Kuty on the wing then its bound to fail no matter how well he played in qualifiers.

Italy 1990.

-------------Zenga
Ferri - Baresi - Bergomi - Maldini
Donadoni - Giannini - Di Napoli - Berti
---------Baggio - Schillaci

With players like Pagluica, Ciro Ferrera, Ancellotti, Mancini, & Vialli on the bench!! What a legendary defence, IMO the best I have ever seen in an international competition. The great Ciro Ferrara (who is in all time teams of most Juve fans) never got a chance coz there were bigger legends available (Baresi+Bergomi). Its strange how the greatest Italian CB's ever to represent Inter, Juve and Milan were playing at the same time! And Italy has not had such a good midfield ever since, with Giannini (who was Roma's biggest legend before Totti and idol of Totti, De Rossi, etc) and Donadoni (one of my fav azzurri players) providing the creative engine. While Schillaci hit his pinnacle in the tournament, Italy had better strikers in Vialli and Mancini on the bench.

Also liked the Italy 1994 team a lot!

---------------Pagluica
Bennarivo - Baresi - Costacurta - Maldini
Donadoni - Albertini - Dino Baggio - Berti
----------Baggio - Signori

With players like Mussi, Tassotti, Conte, Zola, Casiraghi, & Massaro on the bench!

My fav game does not include either of these two teams... I guess I woudl have to go for France vs Brazil, WC 1986 QF - what a game!!! Germany vs Italy (WC 2006) and Holland vs Italy (Euro2000) come close, but thats coz of great Italian victories!

Axeslammer wrote:Zico's Brazil is my favourite team

Holland - Czech Republic 2-3 (Euro 2004) is my favourite international match

Ray Parlour wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Zico's Brazil is my favourite team

Holland - Czech Republic 2-3 (Euro 2004) is my favourite international match

Super Madrid wrote:Only followed internation football briefly in 98 but the team Denmark had was pretty good but went out to a fine brazil team. my other favourite team was Italy in 2000 which was the tournament that really got me into football and the game against Holland which was super. alot of tension and excitment with the right winner in the end.

Denmark 1986 was awesome, shame you missed that...

Axeslammer wrote:

Khadrim wrote:

Gone wrote:Romania in 1994: Hagi, Belodedici, Raducioiu, Dumitrescu, Gica Popescu, Dan Petrescu

Favorite game: 3-2 against Argentina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnNliThxA7c

Love that game. I could sell football with that. Amazing.

Ooh, that game : that's a classic indeed

Great, entertaining match

one of the best wc matches ever. WG.

toon h wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:Only followed internation football briefly in 98 but the team Denmark had was pretty good but went out to a fine brazil team. my other favourite team was Italy in 2000 which was the tournament that really got me into football and the game against Holland which was super. alot of tension and excitment with the right winner in the end.

Denmark 1986 was awesome, shame you missed that...

I have seen some videos of it. they were also close at euros 1982 but Elkjær choked against spain at pens.

Brazil Peru in the WC 70??, watched the game once...fucking great...football in those days was much more fun to watch

don't know about favourite team but there's a few games that stand out in my mind:

Holland-Czech as people have mentioned
Argentina-England in '98 (despite the cruel ending)
England-Cameroon in '90 (about the first football match I vaguely remember, although that might be more from videos than the actual thing!)

blutgraetsche wrote: The 1982 side is responsible for the negative image die Mannschaft has abroad, due to the Battiston incident, the "Nichtangriffspakt" against Austria etc. Before that tournament, German football had a completely different image, so it's difficult to have sympathies for them.

dreadful analysis, blut

just dreadful

the Nichtangriffspakt was ultimately completely meaningless

stuff like that happens all the time

anybody still remember the mysterious 3:3 (I think) between Denmark and Sweden, the ONLY result that would have helped both and after which they really stopped playing

yet, nobody said anything

as for Schumacher: his behaviour was not excusable

BUT

it happens ALL THE TIME now as well and NOBODY says anything

ZZ vs Materazzi was FAR FAR WORSE

the Frenchie's actions were NOT done in the heat of the moment but PREMEDITATED

Harald just zoomed out of the box and probably deliberately made a point that went wrong (in an unintended way)

guys like Keane and Cantona have got away with murder; yet Hardald is supposed to be a symbol of all deviousness

if ANTI-German foreigners want to see it like that, fair enough

if YOU, blut, see it like that, we Teutons are doomed indeed

wahre G

From my lifetime, the WC 1990 team was awesome. Not sure who told Barnes he could rap though!

26-Otto-19 wrote:

blutgraetsche wrote: The 1982 side is responsible for the negative image die Mannschaft has abroad, due to the Battiston incident, the "Nichtangriffspakt" against Austria etc. Before that tournament, German football had a completely different image, so it's difficult to have sympathies for them.

dreadful analysis, blut

just dreadful

the Nichtangriffspakt was ultimately completely meaningless

stuff like that happens all the time

anybody still remember the mysterious 3:3 (I think) between Denmark and Sweden, the ONLY result that would have helped both and after which they really stopped playing

yet, nobody said anything

as for Schumacher: his behaviour was not excusable

BUT

it happens ALL THE TIME now as well and NOBODY says anything

ZZ vs Materazzi was FAR FAR WORSE

the Frenchie's actions were NOT done in the heat of the moment but PREMEDITATED

Harald just zoomed out of the box and probably deliberately made a point that went wrong (in an unintended way)

guys like Keane and Cantona have got away with murder; yet Hardald is supposed to be a symbol of all deviousness

if ANTI-German foreigners want to see it like that, fair enough

if YOU, blut, see it like that, we Teutons are doomed indeed

wahre G

None the less he is right that this was pretty bad for germanys image. i have seen those games and the Austria game was disgraceful. And when Denmark met Sweden it was 2-2 and it was a thight game which could have ended with a victory for either side.

England '96 and Holland '98 - Kluivert, Bergkamp, van Hooijdonk, Overmars, Jonk, Seedorf, Frank De Boer, Stam, Artur Numan - WOW !


Fave game is Czech v Holland '04 or Nigeria v Spain '98.

Super Madrid wrote:

26-Otto-19 wrote:

blutgraetsche wrote: The 1982 side is responsible for the negative image die Mannschaft has abroad, due to the Battiston incident, the "Nichtangriffspakt" against Austria etc. Before that tournament, German football had a completely different image, so it's difficult to have sympathies for them.

dreadful analysis, blut

just dreadful

the Nichtangriffspakt was ultimately completely meaningless

stuff like that happens all the time

anybody still remember the mysterious 3:3 (I think) between Denmark and Sweden, the ONLY result that would have helped both and after which they really stopped playing

yet, nobody said anything

as for Schumacher: his behaviour was not excusable

BUT

it happens ALL THE TIME now as well and NOBODY says anything

ZZ vs Materazzi was FAR FAR WORSE

the Frenchie's actions were NOT done in the heat of the moment but PREMEDITATED

Harald just zoomed out of the box and probably deliberately made a point that went wrong (in an unintended way)

guys like Keane and Cantona have got away with murder; yet Hardald is supposed to be a symbol of all deviousness

if ANTI-German foreigners want to see it like that, fair enough

if YOU, blut, see it like that, we Teutons are doomed indeed

wahre G

None the less he is right that this was pretty bad for germanys image. i have seen those games and the Austria game was disgraceful. And when Denmark met Sweden it was 2-2 and it was a thight game which could have ended with a victory for either side.

Denmark and Sweden stopped playing the second they reached 2:2

EXACTLY the same as Germany-Austria

difference being that there was not that much time left

anyway, I agree that FOREIGNERS are always looking for so-called German misbehaviour and they thought they had found it in the two instances mentioned by blut

the thing is, that compared with what else is going on in world football ALL THE TIME, they were peanuts: utterly irrelevant

if foreigners want to spin the events in a negative way: fair enough

if Germans like blut therefore start applying these articificial standards to themselves as well instead of seeing them for what they are, I am officially ashamed to be German

BLUT

get a grip

it's exactly because of self-loathing attitudes like yours that Germany has become a country of Muttersoehnchen, die JA nichts falsch machen wollen

Yes Denmark and Sweden did become carefull but that was only because a goal to either side would mean that they went out and in tempo the game was played at it either side could have gone out easily if they continued. from what i understand in the germany-austria game they got the goal and waited for the whistle to be blown.

Super Madrid wrote:Yes Denmark and Sweden did become carefull but that was only because a goal to either side would mean that they went out and in tempo the game was played at it either side could have gone out easily if they continued. from what i understand in the germany-austria game they got the goal and waited for the whistle to be blown.

Denmark and Sweden stopped playing once they had both reached a mutually beneficial result

Austria and Germany never started playing since they already had a mutually beneficial result

ZERO difference

still, what do you expect

Austria and Germany were once the same country: they are brothers

IF Germany had tried to beat and therefore eliminate Austria I would have been REALLY surprised

the most trivial thing in world football happened

they found an arrangement

blut is ASHAMED of it to this day

yet most Italians think the SERIA A CORRUPTION scandal is now a thing of the past

the English and Americans think that killing 600.000 innocent Iraqi civilians was at best "an honest mistake"

and blut

is ASHAMED of Austria-Germany



you need more perspective, old boy

Blut = most sensible german on the board...