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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:34 pm

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    Landkm per uurTegenstander
    Ivica OlicKroatië31,76 Duitsland
    Robin van PersieNederland31,53Frankrijk
    Dmitri TorbinskiRusland31,32Spanje
    Nihat KahveciTurkije31,11Portugal
    Vassilis TorosidisGriekenland31,11Zweden
    Arjen RobbenNederland30,89Roemenië
    Michael BallackDuitsland30,88Kroatië
    Miroslav KloseDuitsland30,86Polen
    Nuno GomesPortugal30,81Turkije
    Wilfred BoumaNederland30,78Frankrijk
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    Post by Kroos Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:36 pm

    whos talking ballack had no pace in his game^^
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:37 pm

    I saw this the other day and no offence but it's rubbish. It had Ruud van Nistelrooy in the top 10!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:39 pm

    Parks lives wrote:I saw this the other day and no offence but it's rubbish. It had Ruud van Nistelrooy in the top 10!

    I can't find him to be honest...?Suspect
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:42 pm

    Toni Kroos wrote:whos talking ballack had no pace in his game^^

    All this shows is that the fastest players around aren't in the euro's. Also Nuno Gomes is in there, so it's obviously not accurate. <Ale>
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    Post by fcb Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:42 pm

    Do they factor in whether there was a wind or not?
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:43 pm

    Parks lives wrote:I saw this the other day and no offence but it's rubbish. It had Ruud van Nistelrooy in the top 10!

    ok

    How on earth can Van Persie be the second fastest player in the Championship?! Shocked

    Most of those players wouldn't be classified as 'fast' so it's a strange list.
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    Post by 110% Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:44 pm

    Toni Kroos wrote:whos talking ballack had no pace in his game^^

    he goes down pretty fast Wink
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:50 pm

    These are the facts, guys!I can't help it! Olic from HSV is the quickest player around.! Accept that!

    To be honest, I always thought Bitterball Bouma was only fast when Fey was frying his bitterballs... But I am mistaken!


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    Post by lrdsucksgoats Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:51 pm

    Bouma faster than Ronaldo?
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:52 pm

    San Jol wrote:These are the facts, guys!I can't help it! Olic from HSV is the quickest player around.! Accept that!

    To be honest, I always thought Bitterball Bouma was only fast if Fey was frying his bitterballs... But I am mistaken!

    Are they facts, or are they just dodgy statistics? I'll say the latter.
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    Post by 110% Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:09 pm

    depends on how they're measured, like the speed of goals estimated by the camera: they estimate the distance based on something they know on screen eg the distance from the goal line to the penalty spot and time how it takes for the ball to leave a players foot and go past the line. Things such as camera angles etc are not accounted for.

    In this case the players are all over the pitch so how do they know what distance they have run in a specific time. None of the players except odonkor run in a straight line Wink.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:09 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    San Jol wrote:These are the facts, guys!I can't help it! Olic from HSV is the quickest player around.! Accept that!

    To be honest, I always thought Bitterball Bouma was only fast if Fey was frying his bitterballs... But I am mistaken!

    Are they facts, or are they just dodgy statistics? I'll say the latter.

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    Post by Football Genius Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:13 pm

    Over how many metres?

    A bus can reach 60 / 70miles an hour, but takes around an hour to get there, whereas a Ferrari....

    Is this about top end pace? or over 50metres for example... what are the measurements?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:23 pm

    Football Genius wrote:Over how many metres?

    A bus can reach 60 / 70miles an hour, but takes around an hour to get there, whereas a Ferrari....

    Is this about top end pace? or over 50metres for example... what are the measurements?
    I don't know...

    To visualise... If this was the average speed over 100 meter Olic (32km/h) would have run it in +/-11.25 seconds...

    (100 meter runners run like 36+ km/h >>>100m in 10 seconds)
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    Post by fcb Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:25 pm

    But FG's point is, could Olic maintain that speed for 100 metres? Maybe that's why these stats are skewed.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:27 pm

    kas wrote:But FG's point is, could Olic maintain that speed for 100 metres? Maybe that's why these stats are skewed.

    I know... 100 meters is much too much.... but it is an easy benchmark if you take into account a topsprinter runs roughly 36km/h....
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:40 pm

    kas wrote:But FG's point is, could Olic maintain that speed for 100 metres? Maybe that's why these stats are skewed.

    100 metres = the whole pitch

    Football players don't need to maintain that speed for so long, the acceleration and top speed over short distances ('explosiveness') is more important.
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:41 pm

    Surely that's oversimplified. A 100m sprinter starts at zero kph and accelerates (over about 60m if memory serves) up to their top speed. So average speed is fairly meaningless.

    I'd argue that maintaining the speed is less important in football. Being able to cover 5m or 10m faster than your opponent is all you need to get an advantage - compared to say rugby where a fullback needs to be able to run the length of the pitch.

    And then is it average speed over 1 metre, 5 metres, a whole game, what?

    Basically it's all bollocks.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:42 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:
    kas wrote:But FG's point is, could Olic maintain that speed for 100 metres? Maybe that's why these stats are skewed.

    100 metres = the whole pitch

    Football players don't need to maintain that speed for so long, the acceleration and top speed over short distances ('explosiveness') is more important.

    so .... They took a distance of 20 meters?


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    Post by fcb Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:43 pm

    I want to know Podolski's speed down the left flank for that 1st Germany goal yesterday. I bet it was the top speed Ale
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:43 pm

    I don't know Ricardo, you posted the stats! Why do you ask me? Very Happy
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:44 pm

    blutgraetsche wrote:I don't know Ricardo, you posted the stats! Why do you ask me? Very Happy
    cause Ballack is in there....
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:45 pm

    WR for 100m is 9.72s
    WR for 60m is 6.39s

    therefore a top sprinter is travelling at 9.39m/s on average for the first 60m but 12.01m/s on average for the last 40m. So absolute top speed is a function of how long you've been able to accelerate for, as well as your ability to run fast.
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    Post by blutgraetsche Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:47 pm

    San Jol wrote: cause Ballack is in there....

    I don't have a Ballack statistics book, if that's what you are trying to say...

    I think that these stats are from one of the Euro 2008 sponsors, Castrol. Read this somewhere else already:

    http://www.castrolindex.com/
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:07 pm

    Roger Hunt wrote:WR for 100m is 9.72s
    WR for 60m is 6.39s

    therefore a top sprinter is travelling at 9.39m/s on average for the first 60m but 12.01m/s on average for the last 40m. So absolute top speed is a function of how long you've been able to accelerate for, as well as your ability to run fast.
    I know you are right.

    Perhaps this also expleins why mostly strikers and attacking players are on the list because they run the most meters and they run the longest sprints....


    Or am I completely on the wrong track now? Strikers and attacking midfielders make long runs. Especially in counter attacks let say 50 meters on full speed. in the last 10 meters he runs the fastest so here he gets the speed of 32km/h... (Let say they take the average of 10 meters...)

    Ballack, klose, Ruud, Olic run a lot of meters in their games and had long distance sprints (?)... Van Persie run fast and long in the counter attacks...(?)
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    Post by Murray Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:42 pm

    How fast they run depends on what drugs they've been taking.

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