has fergie lost the plot ?

Was fergie's rant yesterday a sign that Rafa's mind games have finally gotten to him ?

Was this his Keegan moment ?

Why do you hate Ferguson/Man Utd so much Pierre?

What rant?

Super Madrid wrote:Why do you hate Ferguson/Man Utd so much Pierre?

Because he has spent the last god knows how many years using pre-match press conferences to put pressure on referees and his team have continually bullied them during games to the point where the intimidated referees give them very generous decisions for fear of reproach from Fergie if they don't.

He is scum.

Plus the media people all want to stick their tongues up his crap passage.

Hoe many articles have you read on Robbie Keane flopping as opposed to Berbatov ?

Yes.

Lrd, I can only imagine it was his (admittedly hilarious) rant about how he wasn't going to give interviews to the Sun - I think because they suggested he wanted to do away with replays in the cup.

Pierre, that's probably because Berbatov has scored or set up the winning goal in quite a few of their recent games. He might not be playing great, but he is making more of an impact than a man who is struggling to get into the Liverpool squad.

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Pierre, that's probably because Berbatov has scored or set up the winning goal in quite a few of their recent games. He might not be playing great, but he is making more of an impact than a man who is struggling to get into the Liverpool squad.

Most of the talk about Keane was weeks ago when Berbatov was doing just as badly but I read nothing about the Bulgarian.

Ferguson always gets it right in the transfer market

Keane's got 7 in 27

Berbatov's got 10 in 24

Plus Berba has more assists as well, probably why there's less articles on Berba flopping Pierre. Not to mention the fact that Keane has been so bad his manager doesn't even trust him.

Berba is currently Pwning Keane as you would say.

how has Berbatov flopped?

apps: 21(2)

goals: 10

assists: 8

and he is still to find his best form.

if your manager(rafa) thinks your a flop(Keane) then press are not going to disagree.

L-r d wrote:What rant?

Yeah, what rant?

This Peire guy seems to be a WUM of the stupid kind!

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Keane has been a flop so far imo but so has Berbatov. He hasn't made his better in fact he seems to have made it worse. That isn't so strange since Ferguson got it badly wrong in this imo while Benitez is less to foult for it. Keane isn't great but he seemed to be a player that could compliment Torres well. Also when you approach the £ 30 mil mark there should be quite high expectations.
But really you can't flop imo after only half a season. Berbatov/Keane might come good towards the end and as such they need time.

I'm not sure Fergie had the plot to begin with. I think he's just been extraordinarily lucky for the past 20 years.

The major difference is Berbatov is trusted by his manager and still gets played, which means his performances will gradually improve as the team adapts.

Keane can't get off the bench when his team is drawing 0-0 against small sides! And he'll always have the perception of being worse than Berbatov because he air-kicks simple shots, doesn't get passes from his own teammates when he's open, and looks invisible throughout matches when he does play. Berbatov at least is involved, if disappointing in end product...though that is now changing.

Have to say that I'm surprised by this - I expected Keane to be a much better and more crucial signing for Liverpool than Berbatov would be for Man. Utd. Esp. considering Berbatov cost 50% more than Keane.

I thought the little war of words between Ferguson and Benitez earlier this month was very much overplayed by the media - Ferguson did nothing to really start the whole exchange, whilst Benitez's comments were also fair and calmly made, the only problem with their content being that it didn't take the issue regarding Man Utd and referees far enough. But in comparing Benitez's comments to Keegan's so readily, even though the tone of the comments and the circumstances in which they were made were entirely different; in equating Benitez with Keegan, who the media have little respect for and portray as some sort of emotional idiot; I think the media made a big story and made Ferguson the winner of the exchange. I don't think the exchange had or will have much of an impact on the season - but if one team were put under pressure by it, I think it was Liverpool. Ferguson is regarded as the master of mind games, whereas really, nothing he says is clever so much as it is snide and insidious - but because of his reputation, it isn't easy to engage in any exchange with him. Benitez suffers because he seems easily flustered, and because he doesn't speak very fluently.

As for Keane and Berbatov - when I've seen Berbatov play for Man Utd this season, he often hasn't excelled, but I think he has had some decent games, and I think he suits Man Utd's play pretty well. Their attack hasn't been on fire this season, but I think you can see Berbatov becoming a key component in a fluid Man Utd attack. Keane hasn't worked as well for Liverpool so far, and I don't think Benitez is handling him at all properly. I read Glenn, earlier today, suggesting that Benitez didn't want to pay £20 million for Keane in the summer - the question then is, how much did Benitez want to spend on him, and how did he want to allocate Liverpool's transfer funds otherwise? Would he have spent the £20 million on Barry, and spent, say, the Riera money, or the Riera money plus a fee for Alonso, on a striker?

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Super Madrid wrote:Why do you hate Ferguson/Man Utd so much Pierre?

Because he has spent the last god knows how many years using pre-match press conferences to put pressure on referees and his team have continually bullied them during games to the point where the intimidated referees give them very generous decisions for fear of reproach from Fergie if they don't.

He is scum.

Plus the media people all want to stick their tongues up his crap passage.

Hoe many articles have you read on Robbie Keane flopping as opposed to Berbatov ?

Shut up cock,

Nowt wrong with Berba, he seems to becoming into his stride now, winning goal against Bolton n last nights owning of WBA where he scored one and made another.

Lets be honest if Keane was good enuf Fergie would of snapped him up years ago wen he played for Wolves or Coventry, although I personally think Keane is a good player but Bolding lets grow a beard to try disguise the fact, keeps him from showing his abilty, either that or the Pools No.7 is tainted as no one since McManaman has done well.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:
has fergie lost the plot ?

Did he ever have it?

It took you 3 days to come up with that?

It took him three days to basically copy that from my post.


Which is even more embarrassing.

Parks lives wrote:It took you 3 days to come up with that?

Its called me not being in the English forum or seen the thread for a while.