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    Teams that won't win the CL again

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    Post by toon h Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:19 pm

    and why.

    Will Ajax ever win it again? I suppose of the teams that have won it, I see it the least likely team to ever do it again.

    If you include the old European Cup, what other teams (Nottingham Forest would need a huge change in fortunes).

    and clubs from smaller countries?
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    Post by BoBo Vieri 32 Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:34 pm

    Dortmund?
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    Post by toon h Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:53 pm

    teams least likely to win it ever again:

    1. Red Star Belgrade
    2. Nottingham Forest
    3. Feyenoord
    4. Steaua Bucarest
    5. Celtic (only if they join the EPL)
    6. Borussia Dortmund
    7. PSV
    8. Benfica
    9. Ajax
    10. Marseille

    not sure where I would put an Aston Villa or HSV tbh.

    it just seems so difficult now for teams from smaller countries and only Porto seem to have the nouse and competitiveness for the big stage.
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    Post by toon h Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:58 pm

    btw ever=next 25 years
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    Post by Chris 23* Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:18 pm

    Don't think Hamburg would ever win it again.

    Good Topic ok
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    Post by Effenberg Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:52 pm

    If (and that's a big IF) there is some kind of salary cap or other change that levels the playing field somewhat, I think a financially sound team like Hamburg could get back into contention.

    Like I said, a big IF.
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    Post by debaser Wed Jul 29, 2009 11:01 pm

    Feyenoord are the only team you could say for absolute certain will never win anything again.

    Otherwise anyone could ok
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    Post by fcb Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:53 am

    Real Madrid.
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    Post by gone Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:23 am

    Marseille has a great team now. If they continue on this path they can win it in the next 5-7 years.
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    Post by Romford Pele Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:39 am

    Edin Dzeko wrote:Marseille has a great team now. If they continue on this path they can win it in the next 5-7 years.


    Most of the players like Ben Arfa and Taiwo will get snapped up though.
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    Post by gone Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:37 pm

    They have some money now so maybe they can hold on to them. It's not the early 90's when Marseille could get big name players but they are doing ok.
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    Post by Fey Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:51 pm

    debaser wrote:Feyenoord are the only team you could say for absolute certain will never win anything again.

    Otherwise anyone could ok

    Thanks to Feyenoord Larsson went to Celtic
    Thanks to Larsson Celtic became champs under MON
    Thanks to Villa, MON became a disgrace Grr

    Anyway, of all the three Dutch clubs only Feyenoord has a realistic chance of winning it in the near future, simply because we are the only ones with a good youth academy.

    Interesting stat in CL finals the Dutch have the best record of winning it ok

    Im gonna put Inter at nr1 though..
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    Post by debaser Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:55 pm

    Fey wrote:
    Interesting stat in CL finals the Dutch have the best record of winning it ok

    Indeed you do. England second with a healthy 65%

    On the flipside France won 1 out of 6 and Italy, Germany, Portugal all also under 50%
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    Post by Aristoskank Fri Jul 31, 2009 9:48 am

    toon h wrote:btw ever=next 25 years

    Really? The world is going to end in 2034?
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    Post by gone Fri Jul 31, 2009 11:37 am

    Stimulus Package wrote:
    toon h wrote:btw ever=next 25 years

    Really? The world is going to end in 2034?

    Or football. Or the CL.
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    Post by Axeslammer Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:58 pm

    Inter Perfidia Laugh
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    Post by toon h Fri Jul 31, 2009 2:25 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:
    toon h wrote:btw ever=next 25 years

    Really? The world is going to end in 2034?

    you heard it here first.

    well, obviously it is too early to talk about what is going to happen in the CL if it even exists still in 100 years. Preston North End, Stade Reims and Feyenoord could make comebacks, who knows...
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    Post by A & K Sat Aug 08, 2009 4:02 am

    Marseille are building a big team and they invested a lot in new players while selling no players so they are on the good way. They will probably win the league and go to the second round and you never know. With DD they will have this winning mentality.
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    Post by Pras_tama Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:37 pm

    kas wrote:Real Madrid.


    Laughing

    Dare to bet?
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    Post by fcb Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:43 pm

    Sure? What's the limit for the bet though? 2020? 2100?
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    Post by SuperMario Wed Aug 19, 2009 1:55 pm

    I wouldn't put a eurocent on it, but things will improve at Feyenoord. Once we have our new stadium (bigger than any EPL club's), our budget will improve dramatically & we still do have 1 of the best academies in Europe.

    Toon, beg to differ big time on Dutch clubs having no chance & Porto isn't mentioned. All Dutch clubs have a similar (tiny) chance as Porto me thinks.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:36 pm

    toon h wrote:
    Stimulus Package wrote:
    toon h wrote:btw ever=next 25 years

    Really? The world is going to end in 2034?

    you heard it here first.

    well, obviously it is too early to talk about what is going to happen in the CL if it even exists still in 100 years. Preston North End, Stade Reims and Feyenoord could make comebacks, who knows...

    The maya's told us the world ends in 2012... so ... we can also say for the nextthree years... Wink
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