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    Post by Six Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:47 pm

    Awesome news. I was almost considering ignoring all football news during the international break until I heard about this! cheers
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    Post by Kroos Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:55 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Özil wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Özil wrote:
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    Özil wrote:
    you are only pissed, because england dont have a superstar, and the bundesliga has lol!

    You can't be a superstar if you're not in one of the top 3 leagues. That's the way it is.

    ok debaser Wink


    and we are into the top3 atm (2 points ahead of italy), when you look the 5years ranking, next year we will be there,

    with bremen and hsv in uefa cup and good draws in the cl, italy has no chance this year



    You may be right. But I think players would still prefer Juve, Inter, Milan over Bayern, Werder, and Wolfsburg.

    Just like they would prefer Barca and Real over any English or Italian club.

    wages are the main reason, but bayern can competete with any italien club in terms of getting players

    seria a has 800 million to pay for wages, thats insane (inter alone has 150 million)

    true about barca and real, no player would say no

    Wages has something to do with it, but mainly it's prestige. Italian clubs have a pedigree that German clubs don't. Of course, if a club like Juve were offering 1 million euros, and Bayern 4 million, then the player would pick Bayern. But if it was a case of a million or so, the player, in my opinion, would pick Juve.

    English, Spanish, and Italian teams have the advantage of allying their prestige with financial clout.

    Notice that pedigree is not only European success. For example, Bayern have won twice as many CL trophies as Juve, but Juve have a charm that Bayern don't (notwithstanding Juve's checkered past).

    Just how I see it...

    when it comes to prestige in europe only milan is in bayerns league from all italien clubs, not to mention the arena and spectators

    juve cant attract the biggest players

    diego could be easily our player now, when bayern really would have gone after him

    just how i see it
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:12 pm

    I honestly think Inter and Juve, as much as I dislike them, are more attractive clubs than Bayern Munich.

    And despite Milan's current sorry state, Milan is not only in Bayern's league, but in a league far higher than Bayern when it comes to getting players.

    I think Diego was pretty unequivocal in wanting to play for Juve...


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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:16 pm

    Ha ha ha ha ha !

    Still if any team can cope in the EPL its Chelsea as they have a brilliant squad but this will hinder them slightly.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm

    Ballack wrote:this is actually such bullshit. it'll get lowered to just the one window, fifa actualy just hate us.

    its amazing how they didn't think anything was suspicious about how fran merida and cesc ended up at arsenal, or the copious amounts of youth players arriving at liverpool (oooh look at us, we won the fa youth cup with 7 starting spanish players). yeh fuckig right they were born by the merseyside.

    un-fucking-believable.

    the starting XI that beat Chelsea in the youth cup last season contained 7 scousers, a German, a Finn and ONE Spaniard (Ayala) IIRC I believe the Chelsea team was at least half foreign with Heinman, Ahmed, Bruma, Kakuta, Meilis and Sala all starting.

    Thanks Ale
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    Post by Hem fet un.. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:22 pm

    Ballack wrote:this is actually such bullshit. it'll get lowered to just the one window, fifa actualy just hate us.

    its amazing how they didn't think anything was suspicious about how fran merida and cesc ended up at arsenal, or the copious amounts of youth players arriving at liverpool (oooh look at us, we won the fa youth cup with 7 starting spanish players). yeh fuckig right they were born by the merseyside.

    un-fucking-believable.

    As much as I hate saying it Ballack has a point.. Loads of clubs steal players.. if they wanted to set an example then why not with a couple of them. There has been plenty of complaints by smaller clubs over the last few years.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:26 pm

    Hem fet un.. wrote:
    Ballack wrote:this is actually such bullshit. it'll get lowered to just the one window, fifa actualy just hate us.

    its amazing how they didn't think anything was suspicious about how fran merida and cesc ended up at arsenal, or the copious amounts of youth players arriving at liverpool (oooh look at us, we won the fa youth cup with 7 starting spanish players). yeh fuckig right they were born by the merseyside.

    un-fucking-believable.

    As much as I hate saying it Ballack has a point.. Loads of clubs steal players.. if they wanted to set an example then why not with a couple of them. There has been plenty of complaints by smaller clubs over the last few years.

    they made an example of Chelsea because there had been a complaint against them which was upheld. Chelsea had already a suspended sentence from a previous case. This wasn't entrapment or looking for a scapegoat, Chelsea had been warned once and ignored it. The fans should be angry at the club, not FIFA.
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    Post by Hem fet un.. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:27 pm

    When were they warned? The dodgy Mikkel transfer?
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:28 pm

    This news brightened up a humdrum afternoon at work Smiley

    Have to see how the appeal goes but at least Ancellotti has form in nursing a geriatric team on zimmer frames ok

    A lot of clubs will be turning over the contract files of their youth team players, us included. ManU may also have cause to be afraid seeing how pissed off Carlos Alberto was a while ago for taking away most of the promising Brazilian youngsters.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm

    Hem fet un.. wrote:When were they warned? The dodgy Mikkel transfer?

    it was a couple of years ago, they received a suspended sentence I forget which player exactly it was, someone on here must remember. It might have been Ashley Cole.
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    Post by Hem fet un.. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm

    Merida and Cesc on a free transfer Very Happy
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    Post by Six Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:35 pm

    Maybe Chelsea knew this was coming and that's why they hired Geriatrics specialist Ancelotti.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm

    were they found guilty of tapping up Cole or Arneson? I distinctly remember some sort of similar scandal in the early Kenyon days. Silly fecker still thinks he's at Man Utd.
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    Post by Kroos Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I honestly think Inter and Juve, as much as I dislike them, are more attractive clubs than Bayern Munich.

    And despite Milan's current sorry state, Milan is not only in Bayern's league, but in a league far higher than Bayern when it comes to getting players.

    I think Diego was pretty unequivocal in wanting to play for Juve...

    yeah we are both baised affraid

    whats attraktive for you, from prestige juve and inter not near our level, juves arena and spectators a disgrace for any football fan,

    inter lol! snjeider and eto only joined them, because they be forced to join them, and the tons of wages helped too, this club only has a history of fail in europe

    juve is a big name in italy, but in europe, zidane is long gone Sleep

    ac milan: yeah you get only superstars past there best (ronaldinho, beckham, ronaldo)(salary them too much and pay too much transfer fee)

    pirlo, kaka and the rest of your cl glory team where hardly stars before they won something

    about diego;
    no juve was the only club who was interested in him


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    Post by TheCrazy58 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm

    G for Glenndetta wrote:were they found guilty of tapping up Cole or Arneson? I distinctly remember some sort of similar scandal in the early Kenyon days. Silly fecker still thinks he's at Man Utd.

    They were definitely found guilty of tapping up Cashley - suspended 3 point deduction and Maureen was fined as well.
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    Post by Guest Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 pm

    Thats what they get for wanting 17m euros from mutu, it should have been more.
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    Post by Glenarch of the Glen Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:51 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:
    G for Glenndetta wrote:were they found guilty of tapping up Cole or Arneson? I distinctly remember some sort of similar scandal in the early Kenyon days. Silly fecker still thinks he's at Man Utd.

    They were definitely found guilty of tapping up Cashley - suspended 3 point deduction and Maureen was fined as well.

    ok

    and it came out ages after the transfer. Chelsea can't moan that they're being picked on, Fans should be screaming for blood, but from Kenyon not FIFA. They should have either paid off the accuser, (see Johnny Evans) or bribed the judge (see Steven Gerrard) or not done it in the first place (see Shaggy)

    I wonder if the ruling applies to players already at the club, but not registered to play. Players out on loan for example wont be registered.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:57 pm

    Özil wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I honestly think Inter and Juve, as much as I dislike them, are more attractive clubs than Bayern Munich.

    And despite Milan's current sorry state, Milan is not only in Bayern's league, but in a league far higher than Bayern when it comes to getting players.

    I think Diego was pretty unequivocal in wanting to play for Juve...

    yeah we are both baised affraid

    whats attraktive for you, from prestige juve and inter not near our level, juves arena and spectators a disgrace for any football fan,

    inter lol! snjeider and eto only joined them, because they be forced to join them, and the tons of wages helped too, this club only has a history of fail in europe

    juve is a big name in italy, but in europe, zidane is long gone Sleep

    ac milan: yeah you get only superstars past there best (ronaldinho, beckham, ronaldo)(salary them too much and pay too much transfer fee)

    pirlo, kaka and the rest of your cl glory team where hardly stars before they won something

    about diego;
    no juve was the only club who was interested in him

    I honestly thought Bayern were interested in Diego; I guess I was wrong. I like Bayern much more than I like Inter, but sadly, Inter are a more attractive club to play for.

    I guess we have to see what other people on the board have to say. IMO, they would say that Inter and Juve are better than Bayern.

    As for Milan--again, maybe you're right but they won the CL in 2007. A club can undergo tough times...
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:59 pm

    Ballack wrote:
    kas wrote:
    Super Granero wrote:Why would that be so great? Because it is Chelsea or just because it is a big club?

    Both. It's a big club getting pwned for stealing youngsters, and just to spice it up, it's the club which is one of the richest in the world, the trendsetters for the "buy instant success and transform overnight" race.
    we spent under 20 million pounds this year. how was the 40 million for ibrahimovich doing?

    its a fucking joke, its another example of fifa picking on an english club. they didn't suspend that shit ref from the barca chelseea game for long enough either, 4 clear handballs and none given.

    Coupled with that game, I can see why you would think there is an institutional bias against you.
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    Post by Luis Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:04 pm

    I agree with Ballack.

    Whilst I think it's funny because I don't really like Chelsea, I have to question some of the decisions from the men at the top of football recently.

    Eduardo getting banned is absolutely ridiculous - if he does get banned then every single player who does it around the world has to as well from now on. Somehow I can't see Nani getting a 2 game ban for a dive against Portsmouth.

    Rafa getting fined for post game comments when most managers do exactly the same on a weekly basis and get nothing.

    And now this. But I suppose Ballack should have been banned for his part in that game where Chelsea were cheated out of the CL by Uefa, however it's not really a balance out.

    I don't know what to expect next, perhaps Ferguson will be executed.
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    Post by Kroos Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:11 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    Özil wrote:
    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:I honestly think Inter and Juve, as much as I dislike them, are more attractive clubs than Bayern Munich.

    And despite Milan's current sorry state, Milan is not only in Bayern's league, but in a league far higher than Bayern when it comes to getting players.

    I think Diego was pretty unequivocal in wanting to play for Juve...

    yeah we are both baised affraid

    whats attraktive for you, from prestige juve and inter not near our level, juves arena and spectators a disgrace for any football fan,

    inter lol! snjeider and eto only joined them, because they be forced to join them, and the tons of wages helped too, this club only has a history of fail in europe

    juve is a big name in italy, but in europe, zidane is long gone Sleep

    ac milan: yeah you get only superstars past there best (ronaldinho, beckham, ronaldo)(salary them too much and pay too much transfer fee)

    pirlo, kaka and the rest of your cl glory team where hardly stars before they won something

    about diego;
    no juve was the only club who was interested in him

    I honestly thought Bayern were interested in Diego; I guess I was wrong. I like Bayern much more than I like Inter, but sadly, Inter are a more attractive club to play for.

    I guess we have to see what other people on the board have to say. IMO, they would say that Inter and Juve are better than Bayern.

    As for Milan--again, maybe you're right but they won the CL in 2007. A club can undergo tough times...

    yeah money helps a lot to look attraktive (how many money has inter invested in this decade, hundrets of millions), from history and prestige both clubs have no chance, but the healthy times for both clubs are over

    atm we have more finanical power then both, and i cant wait to destroy juve in the cl,

    only to see you bleeding Wink
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:32 pm

    Could you please destroy Inter when/if you meet them? That would be great.

    You think you have more financial power than Inter? Moratti will spend a lot to get his team right.
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    Post by Kroos Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:41 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Could you please destroy Inter when/if you meet them? That would be great.

    You think you have more financial power than Inter? Moratti will spend a lot to get his team right.


    another wasted 900 Wink million to win 3 league titles and epic fails in europe (i searched a little bit, my estimate was not bad, he pumped 800 million into the club, hes by far the most clueless guy in world football)

    abramowitsch has a clue, chelsea reached many times the semi final

    i dont take inter serious, biggest jokers in europe
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:52 pm

    Has that smug bastard kenyon said anything yet ?
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:19 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:Has that smug bastard kenyon said anything yet ?

    'Please Mr Abramovich, please tell your bodyguard to stop hitting me.'
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    Post by Sgoater1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:24 pm

    TheCrazy58 wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Has that smug bastard kenyon said anything yet ?

    'Please Mr Abramovich, please tell your bodyguard to stop hitting me.'


    lol!

    " I didnt know i didnt know, it was that Arnasen bloke i didnt know! "

    We should offer them Robinho for £2m and watch them squirm as they have to turn us down lol!
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    Post by Axeslammer Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:25 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    We should offer them Robinho for £2m and watch them squirm as they have to turn us down lol!

    Hehe, I like the way you're thinking Razz
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:35 pm

    Sgoater1 wrote:
    TheCrazy58 wrote:
    Sgoater1 wrote:Has that smug bastard kenyon said anything yet ?

    'Please Mr Abramovich, please tell your bodyguard to stop hitting me.'


    lol!

    " I didnt know i didnt know, it was that Arnasen bloke i didnt know! "

    We should offer them Robinho for £2m and watch them squirm as they have to turn us down lol!

    Or just buy all of their best players.


    What makes all this particularly fun for me is that it throws a spanner in the works of the one club looking solid so far. Man U and Liverpool look dodgy, Arsenal keep selling their experienced players, City have Hughes and Spurs are Spurs. Chelsea haven't been playing that well, but they haven't really come close to being beaten yet. I had them as favourites, a few other people did too, now a bit of bad luck with injuries and they'll have to play the kids. And Chelsea's kids aren't particularly good from what I've seen.
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    Post by debaser Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:38 pm

    Stimulus Package wrote:
    What makes all this particularly fun for me is that it throws a spanner in the works of the one club looking solid so far. Man U and Liverpool look dodgy, Arsenal keep selling their experienced players, City have Hughes and Spurs are Spurs.

    :villaforthetitle: cheers
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    Post by Aristoskank Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:44 pm

    Don't start that again.

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