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    Van der Sar next victim of DICTATOR Ferguson?????????

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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:37 am

    Ferguson doesn't like critique, that's a common fact!!!! He sent Ruud, Stam, and Keane away because they criticised Man U.... Although, the club are STIL in a huge down fall since 1999 nobody is allowed to think about why the club have not had a MAJOR success since then...

    Van der Sar knew, it is very dangerous to criticise Ferguson but after month and month keeping his mouth shut about Man U's TERRIBLE defence he said after the game against Celtic. “Our defence was not concentrated enough and we made many awful mistakes...” "We were extremely happy we won but against better opposition we would lose for 100% with such a terrible defensive performance.."!

    Will Ferguson be consequent and to send Van der Sar, the only stability in the poor Man U defence, away now...?????? So the long-term Man U crisis can continue???

    http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=62802/contentid=83769/sc=da88a5
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:45 am

    Haha,

    I saw both interviewed on MUTV and they both sang off the same songsheet.

    Bad defending and we need to improve it.

    Don't forget we still have Vidic and Heinze to return.
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    Post by L r d Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:55 am

    ricardojol wrote:Ferguson doesn't like critique, that's a common fact!!!! He sent Ruud, Stam, and Keane away because they criticised Man U.... Although, the club are STIL in a huge down fall since 1999 nobody is allowed to think about why the club have not had a MAJOR success since then...

    Van der Sar knew, it is very dangerous to criticise Ferguson but after month and month keeping his mouth shut about Man U's TERRIBLE defence he said after the game against Celtic. “Our defence was not concentrated enough and we made many awful mistakes...” "We were extremely happy we won but against better opposition we would lose for 100% with such a terrible defensive performance.."!

    Will Ferguson be consequent and to send Van der Sar, the only stability in the poor Man U defence, away now...?????? So the long-term Man U crisis can continue???

    http://www.vi.nl/vi/show/id=62802/contentid=83769/sc=da88a5

    He may just be the next one ricardo, you know fergie doesnt really like the dutch Very Happy
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:15 pm

    Let's hope Vidic and Heinze will improve the terrible defence.... It can't be worse than this...!

    Fergie doesn't like talkative Dutchies that's for sure...! But, why he signs the Dutch then...? He'd better sign only English in the next 20 years he is in power... Those players are more "followers"....
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:16 pm

    Desperate. Very Happy
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:18 pm

    Who Fergie?????

    That could be...
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:19 pm

    Which Dutchie leaving got you most annoyed? Stam or Nistelrooy.
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:19 pm

    ricardojol wrote:Ferguson doesn't like critique, that's a common fact!!!! He sent Ruud, Stam, and Keane away because they criticised Man U.... Although, the club are STIL in a huge down fall since 1999 nobody is allowed to think about why the club have not had a MAJOR success since then...

    They've won 3 league titles since then, you tit.

    Van der Sar knew, it is very dangerous to criticise Ferguson but after month and month keeping his mouth shut about Man U's TERRIBLE defence he said after the game against Celtic. “Our defence was not concentrated enough and we made many awful mistakes...” "We were extremely happy we won but against better opposition we would lose for 100% with such a terrible defensive performance.."!

    Fergie said more or less the same thing.

    Will Ferguson be consequent and to send Van der Sar, the only stability in the poor Man U defence, away now...?????? So the long-term Man U crisis can continue???

    Crisis? Never finished outside of the top 3 in the Premiership (no other club can claim that). Best two young players in the league. Two of the best playmakers in the league. Probably the best veterans in the league (Giggs, Scholes, VDS, *cough*Neville). Won 5 on the trot despite shaky defending. Scoring more freely than any other team in the country.

    Do you honeslty think that there's a word of truth in this? Or are you just a WUM-cretin?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:20 pm

    What is your European record...?

    pretty poor...!
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:21 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Which Dutchie leaving got you most annoyed? Stam or Nistelrooy.

    Stam. Van Nistelrooy's time had come - he was slow, demotivated, causing trouble. Stam on the other hand, dodgy autobiography or not, was one of the best defenders around for at least 4 seasons after he left. Had you not got rid of him you wouldn't have gotten Rio, but I think on balance that Stam may have done you more good.
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:23 pm

    Agree on Stam.

    Stam is the only high profile we have got rid of I think was a mistake.

    Ruud's time was right and Ince, Kanchelskis, Beckham etc was a good decision as well.
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:24 pm

    ricardojol wrote:What is your European record...?

    pretty poor...!

    Compared to who, Real Madrid?
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:27 pm

    Parks Lives wrote:Which Dutchie leaving got you most annoyed? Stam or Nistelrooy.

    About Ruud I said ages ago when Man U signed Rooney...

    Leave Man U !!!!!

    because he is not able to play together with Rooney... It is Rooney or Ruud and because we are in England the manager will always choose for Rooney. He is seen there as the new Pele...

    Stam was a HUGE mistke and after that Man U never reached the same European level
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:29 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    ricardojol wrote:What is your European record...?

    pretty poor...!

    Compared to who, Real Madrid?

    Aren't Man U the richest club in the world.... ????? On that, there results are humiliating in Europe!
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:32 pm

    ricardojol wrote:

    Stam was a HUGE mistke and after that Man U never reached the same European level

    I agree with you on Stam, he was an awesome defender and probably the best defender in Europe the year we won the treble.

    I suppose it was a personality clash, stemed from the book he made.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:34 pm

    If there is one player that doesn't make a lot of problems it is Stam....
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    Post by Parks lives Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:36 pm

    ricardojol wrote:

    About Ruud I said ages ago when Man U signed Rooney...

    Leave Man U !!!!!

    because he is not able to play together with Rooney... It is Rooney or Ruud and because we are in England the manager will always choose for Rooney. He is seen there as the new Pele...


    & yes you did say that and you were proved right. Even I argued that at first. I didn't realise it fully until Saha stepped in around March.

    ok
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    Post by Owen Thomas Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:26 pm

    Keep trying dutchie. Your league is still shit. ok
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:31 pm

    and liverpool can't even win from these shite teams....


    Laugh
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    Post by Owen Thomas Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:32 pm

    ricardojol wrote:and liverpool can't even win from these shite teams....


    Laugh

    PSV 0 - 0 Liverpool reserves.

    lol!
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:36 pm

    Always when you drop points it is because you play your b side....Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh

    You can afford rotation... PSV are TOO POOR for doing that...

    But then.. PSV played a b side as well.... Without superb players like Assiati and Cocu (Kluivert)....
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:33 pm

    ricardojol wrote:
    saintgoingmarching wrote:
    ricardojol wrote:What is your European record...?

    pretty poor...!

    Compared to who, Real Madrid?

    Aren't Man U the richest club in the world.... ????? On that, there results are humiliating in Europe!

    While I know that you're a WUM, I'll answer anyway.

    No, Man U are not the richest club in the world. They are the most valuable club in the world, but not the richest. In terms of revenue it's Madrid, in terms of capital it's Chelsea.

    Man U's results in Europe since 99 haven't been dreadful - a semi-final appearance in 2002 being a case of 'almost but not quite' given they probably should have won the tie given the balance of play. 2004 they went out to Porto, who won the thing. 2005 they went out to Milan, who were the best team in the comp (inc. the final) and should have won the thing. Last season they went out to a group containing the side who put out Liverpool one round later, a team who got to the semi-finals and a team who the referee refused to card even when one of them broke Giggs' cheekbone with his elbow. And they'd lost a lot of their most experienced players to injury.

    Given the inherently unpredictable nature of the CL I'd say that Man U will probably be disappointed with their performances in Europe since 2002, not since 99.
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    Post by Saintsar Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:34 pm

    ricardojol wrote:Always when you drop points it is because you play your b side....Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh Doh

    You can afford rotation... PSV are TOO POOR for doing that...

    But then.. PSV played a b side as well.... Without superb players like Assiati and Cocu (Kluivert)....


    Ah, so it's a jealousy about money issue. That's why you've got this big eredivisie chip on your shoulder...
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    Post by Owen Thomas Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:38 pm

    The Eredivisie as far as I am concerned is simply a selling league - an academy if you will - for the big leagues.
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    Post by L r d Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:11 pm

    hey ricardo vds doesnt start today haha
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:28 pm

    sure?
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:29 pm

    He definitely isn't starting and isn't even on the bench.
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:31 pm

    injured?
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    Post by L r d Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:31 pm

    ricardojol wrote:sure?

    His united career is over, he didnt learn from stam and ruud Devil
    Bye bye vds nice knowing ya Very Happy
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    Post by Ricardo Jol Sun Sep 17, 2006 3:33 pm

    l r d wrote:
    ricardojol wrote:sure?

    His united career is over, he didnt learn from stam and ruud Devil
    Bye bye vds nice knowing ya Very Happy

    Is he injured or is it a Saddam Fergie thing again????

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