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    Post by Juligen Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:24 pm

    He is one of our best coaches, led Sao Pulo to several National trophies and right now is leading Fluminense in the national league.


    Good pick


    PS cant type much since just got a corticoid shoot Sad [/strike]


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    Post by bluenine Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:40 pm

    Just heard about this.... what kind of a coach is he?
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    Post by Juligen Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:33 pm

    ok, I am better now. hehe.

    anyway, as I said the man is a winner, he had a great period on Sao Paulo Futebol Clube for three years, winning the League three times in a row. (2006/2007/2008)

    He right now is the Fluminense coach and they are also leading the League.

    He is not a offensive coach and that was a surprise, maybe thats why his name was not soo popular, but he now will have much better players at his service, so I am sure he can build a better football team.
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    Post by fcb Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:23 pm

    Latest is that he's staying with Fluminense, and Menezes will be Brazil's coach instead?
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    Post by Juligen Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:13 pm

    fcb wrote:Latest is that he's staying with Fluminense, and Menezes will be Brazil's coach instead?

    yes. But Mano still needs to accept.
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    Post by Juligen Sat Jul 24, 2010 5:16 pm

    Mano said YES, he is our new coach. Sorry Todo, lol.


    I hope he can deal with all the pressure.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:36 am

    we lost the best coach we had in the last 12 years. Sad

    Great choice by CBF. Mano is excelent.

    Like Felipão and Dunga, he's a Gaúcho coach, from Rio Grande do Sul State, and as such he has a strong marking approach. His teams are always very good defensively.

    I don't think Brazil will continue to play counter-attacking football though. The CBF doesn't want it, Brazilians don't want it, but the defence will certainly be solid.

    Moreover, he's honest and knows how to deal well with possible internal problems.

    He became known as a coach when he led XV de Campo Bom, a very small Rio Grande do Sul team, to the Copa do Brasil (our national cup) semis.

    Then he coached Grêmio back to the first division and qualified for Libertadores in the following season, in which Grêmio lost in the final to Boca.

    Then he came to Corinthians and coached them back to the first division with ease. In the following year he won the Sao Paulo State Championship and reached and lost the final of the Copa do Brasil. Last year, he won the Copa do Brasil and qualified Corinthians for Libertadores (qualifying for Libertadores in Brazil is much harder for big teams than in Argentina and in European countries for the Champions League, cause there are many more big clubs in Brazil with real chances of doing it than the 5 spots we have).

    On Monday, he'll announce a probably Brazilian-based squad to face USA in a friendly.


    Corinthians players "invaded" the interview to congratulate him:

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    Post by Ricardo Jol Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:24 pm

    damn Ronaldo is going to fatter every day...Shocked
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    Post by Super Progress Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:13 pm

    New Brazil Coach Mano Menezes Wants An End To Pragmatism
    The ex-Corinthians trainer promises to bring back attacking football to the Selecao...

    New Brazil coach Mano Menezes wants the Canarinhas to rediscover attacking football, leaving the pragmatism which so marked previous coach Dunga's tenure on the Brazilian bench.

    "We are going to rescue our style. Brazil has it's own way of playing," the ex-Corinthians boss told Sport Tv in an interview held yesterday evening.

    "We want to recover that tradition of being the protagonists, and stop being bit-part actors looking for the rival mistake. The world now plays more similar to that Brazil and we ourselves have distanced ourselves from it."

    Menezes also gave some indication of how his team will line up, stating that the three-man defence characteristic of Dunga's reign would not survive under the new coach.

    "I like to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, as Germany played with three creators and as Spain did in such a wonderful way. We can play like this because the talent is there."

    Menezes will start his spell on the Brazil bench with next Tuesday's friendly against the United States in New Jersey. A reshuffled team has a marked Santos influence, with Peixe youngsters Neymar and Ganso as well as the recently departed Andre joining Robinho in the full squad.
    Joga Bonito Rolling Eyes

    He should continue what Dunga built which was the best team in the world imo. Maybe tweak it a bit here and there. Getting somebody instead of Gilberto Silva and use Filipe Luis instead of Bastos and build a better bench. Otherwise Dunga did a good job and he should keep it in that way from the start and slowly phase the older players out.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 04, 2010 8:53 pm

    the best team in the world MANO MENEZES  replaces Dunga as Brazil coach Lol, can't believe you are still on that.

    if the world cup were played again they would not win it, as i said before the WC, they will always struggle to comeback from a goal or two down, just not enough creativity in the first XI or coming off the bench.

    Best team in the world when taking the lead, Maybe.

    Then again spain is better than them at that too.
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    Post by L r dd Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:09 pm

    Dunga built a boring team perfect for the counter attack. This was not Brazil it wasnt good to watch and they didn't even make semi of the world cup which for them is total failure. Nice to see some flair back.
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    Post by Calidad Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:38 pm

    Super Laudrup wrote:
    New Brazil Coach Mano Menezes Wants An End To Pragmatism
    The ex-Corinthians trainer promises to bring back attacking football to the Selecao...

    New Brazil coach Mano Menezes wants the Canarinhas to rediscover attacking football, leaving the pragmatism which so marked previous coach Dunga's tenure on the Brazilian bench.

    "We are going to rescue our style. Brazil has it's own way of playing," the ex-Corinthians boss told Sport Tv in an interview held yesterday evening.

    "We want to recover that tradition of being the protagonists, and stop being bit-part actors looking for the rival mistake. The world now plays more similar to that Brazil and we ourselves have distanced ourselves from it."

    Menezes also gave some indication of how his team will line up, stating that the three-man defence characteristic of Dunga's reign would not survive under the new coach.

    "I like to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, as Germany played with three creators and as Spain did in such a wonderful way. We can play like this because the talent is there."

    Menezes will start his spell on the Brazil bench with next Tuesday's friendly against the United States in New Jersey. A reshuffled team has a marked Santos influence, with Peixe youngsters Neymar and Ganso as well as the recently departed Andre joining Robinho in the full squad.
    Joga Bonito Rolling Eyes

    He should continue what Dunga built which was the best team in the world imo. Maybe tweak it a bit here and there. Getting somebody instead of Gilberto Silva and use Filipe Luis instead of Bastos and build a better bench. Otherwise Dunga did a good job and he should keep it in that way from the start and slowly phase the older players out.

    Problem with that is Brasil basically have like 12 (max) competitive games until WC2014 (Olympics excluded), and given that a large portion of the squad will probably be past their best by then, I think it's actually quite prudent by introducing some younger talents into the squad now. For example, Fabiano will be 33/34 come the next WC, and I think Menezes will probably earmark Pato as the No.1 ST for that tournament, so it only makes sense he is introduced now.

    The same can be said for the likes of Hernanes, Ganso, Silva, Luiz etc.
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    Post by Super Progress Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:25 pm

    Calidad wrote:
    Super Laudrup wrote:
    New Brazil Coach Mano Menezes Wants An End To Pragmatism
    The ex-Corinthians trainer promises to bring back attacking football to the Selecao...

    New Brazil coach Mano Menezes wants the Canarinhas to rediscover attacking football, leaving the pragmatism which so marked previous coach Dunga's tenure on the Brazilian bench.

    "We are going to rescue our style. Brazil has it's own way of playing," the ex-Corinthians boss told Sport Tv in an interview held yesterday evening.

    "We want to recover that tradition of being the protagonists, and stop being bit-part actors looking for the rival mistake. The world now plays more similar to that Brazil and we ourselves have distanced ourselves from it."

    Menezes also gave some indication of how his team will line up, stating that the three-man defence characteristic of Dunga's reign would not survive under the new coach.

    "I like to play 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1, as Germany played with three creators and as Spain did in such a wonderful way. We can play like this because the talent is there."

    Menezes will start his spell on the Brazil bench with next Tuesday's friendly against the United States in New Jersey. A reshuffled team has a marked Santos influence, with Peixe youngsters Neymar and Ganso as well as the recently departed Andre joining Robinho in the full squad.
    Joga Bonito Rolling Eyes

    He should continue what Dunga built which was the best team in the world imo. Maybe tweak it a bit here and there. Getting somebody instead of Gilberto Silva and use Filipe Luis instead of Bastos and build a better bench. Otherwise Dunga did a good job and he should keep it in that way from the start and slowly phase the older players out.

    Problem with that is Brasil basically have like 12 (max) competitive games until WC2014 (Olympics excluded), and given that a large portion of the squad will probably be past their best by then, I think it's actually quite prudent by introducing some younger talents into the squad now. For example, Fabiano will be 33/34 come the next WC, and I think Menezes will probably earmark Pato as the No.1 ST for that tournament, so it only makes sense he is introduced now.

    The same can be said for the likes of Hernanes, Ganso, Silva, Luiz etc.
    Im not saying they shouldn't be in the squad but that they should be slowly introduced to take over.

    With the news that Kaka will be out for a while and probably not at the old level they might have to change tactics as well because they don't really have anybody with his style. If Adriano returns to his old form they could play him as the focal point with Pato off him on the wing like he plays for Milan.
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    Post by Calidad Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:44 pm

    lineup against USA

    -------------Renan
    Alves----Silva---Luiz----Santos
    ---------Ramires--Lucas
    Neymar------Ganso------Robinho
    -------------Pato
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:02 am

    Calidad wrote:lineup against USA

    -------------Renan
    Alves----Silva---Luiz----Santos
    ---------Ramires--Lucas
    Neymar------Ganso------Robinho
    -------------Pato

    I like this team, in silva and Luiz they have 2 excellent young CB, that can be with the team for years.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:30 am

    Man, I'm watching the match, and Sullivan should use his own cash to buy Neymar he looks awesome. And the ref looks shit.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:35 am

    Ramires should of been booked there.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Wed Aug 11, 2010 1:39 am

    Neymar 1-0
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:04 am

    1st half brazil 2 (neymar, pato), usa 0.

    what the hell, the kids are just making a fool of the good USA team. the superiority of Brazil is almost laughable.

    USA began better, as if they would rule the game, but it lasted only 5 minutes. from then on, they couldn't touch the ball anymore, and Brazil, with theur swift, high class passing, gave the impression they were kidding around in Central Park.

    as we say in Brazil, USA didn't see the colour of the ball.
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:06 am

    I loved the part though when Brazil was celebrating in the corner and the US had a good chance to score lol, man that would of been embarrassing.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:17 am

    Di Caniooooo! wrote:I loved the part though when Brazil was celebrating in the corner and the US had a good chance to score lol, man that would of been embarrassing.

    I loved more the way USA fans were thinking they would beat a team of kids and then were helplessly resigned or shocked: http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=soccernet&id=660&tid=7273583&tsn=1

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    Post by Jaime Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:33 am

    Have to say these brasilian kids are looking good. Obviously just a friendly but I like the look of Ganso. Even Lucas looks good. Biggrin

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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:50 am

    alves and Ganso has been having a great game, can do more than run in a straight line unlike a certain player.
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    Post by Calidad Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:05 am

    Ganso looks a bit special. Neymar looked excellent too.
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    Post by mongrel hawk Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:08 am

    2-0, but it could have been like... 8.

    yo, Puro! how about those players playing the WC at home? lol! <Ale>
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    Post by Di Caniooooo! Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:05 am

    Mongrel Hawk wrote:
    Di Caniooooo! wrote:I loved the part though when Brazil was celebrating in the corner and the US had a good chance to score lol, man that would of been embarrassing.

    I loved more the way USA fans were thinking they would beat a team of kids and then were helplessly resigned or shocked: http://boards.espn.go.com/boards/mb/mb?sport=soccernet&id=660&tid=7273583&tsn=1

    US fans are idiots, they expect so much from a mediocre squad, like England.
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    Post by Puro Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:06 am

    Mongrel Hawk wrote:2-0, but it could have been like... 8.

    yo, Puro! how about those players playing the WC at home? lol! <Ale>

    I just saw a few minutes of your game (was watching San Martín eliminating what's his name's...the one who likes Quito's team scratch from Copa Sudamericana)

    I liked from the little I saw from Brasil. Psst! we are going to be in the WC Brasil 2014. TRUE FUCKING STORY TODO! cheers

    I'm gonna get a hold of you over there so you can show me around, party all night long, go to the games all borrachos and high on ayahuasca to see the games better. Whoop

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