Manchester United 2006/2007

Id play like this

---------Edwin----------
---Neville Rio Heinze--

----Senna----Carrick--

Ronaldo---------- Evra

---Rooney--Tevez----
----------Toni---------

Evra drops back to make a 4 at the back when defending

Obispo wrote:

parks lives wrote:
--------------- Senna ------------ Carrick

------- Ronaldo --------- Rooney --------- Tevez

---------------------------- Saha

I like that line-up. But to complete it, and for it to work IMHO, I'd go with this.

- - - - - - - - - Van Der Saar
Neville - Ferdinand - Heinze - Evra
- - - - - - Senna - Carrick
Ronaldo - - - Rooney - - - Tevez
- - - - - - - - - Saha

Then, when utd have the ball, it'd be more like the following...

- - - - - - - - - Van Der Saar
- - - Neville - Ferdinand - Heinze
- - - - - - Senna - Carrick
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Evra
Ronaldo - - - Rooney - Tevez
- - - - - - - Saha

Something along those lines; slightly imbalanced, but when you have the ball that wouldn't matter, given that with Neville and Heinze in particular you have 2 fullbacks who can play as centrebacks, and in Evra, you have a very attacking fullback.

I'm modeling it, slightly, on the system that Argies used at the World Cup.

Yeah, thats what Pouiy has been banging on about, using Evra to give more width. He's looked good in pre-season, however he may take a while to dislodge Heinze or Brown (if Heinze's takes his spot). Not overally liked by the fans so far (more Fergie's fault for playing him in the derby where he was wank ).

I still think Scholes will start alot of games(Fergie's words, not mine), so it could be a case of 2 from Senna, Scholes and Carrick or Saha's place and then let Rooney, Ronaldo and someone like Tevez off the leash.

I forgot about Brown; he could in play Neville's role in that system better than Neville. Obviously the Tache won't be dropped though, with him being captain.

It does compare to Argentina's system though.

Brown - Burdisso
Rio - Ayala
Heinze - Heinze
Evra - Sorin

Senna - Mascherano
Carrick - Cambiasso
Ronaldo - Maxi Rodriguez
Rooney - Riquelme/Saviola
Tevez - Riquelme/Saviola

Saha - Crespo

Glenn Hysen wrote:

parks lives wrote:
With Tevez cutting in. Giggs can cover Tevez & Carrick. Park can cover Ronaldo. Fletcher can cover Senna.

you're putting an awful lot of emphasis on Saha with that style - it would look good and certainly suits SAF's gung ho style, but if and when Saha gets injured after 7 games you've got problems.

Thats why if we started like that and Saha got injured, one of Rooney or Tevez could take his place and then Park or Giggs could go onto the wing.

parks lives wrote:Thats why if we started like that and Saha got injured, one of Rooney or Tevez could take his place and then Park or Giggs could go onto the wing.

we both know Rooney can't play as a lone striker - not yet anyway.

not sure about Tevez, but I've a feeling the same applies - Obispo?

Pretty much. It could be seen in the world cup against Holland that he needs someone ahead of him, if just to occupy the opposition strikers.

I still think Tevez will end up in Spain when he does go, it's just a question of where. If he goes this season I think Sevilla will sign him.

Glenn Hysen wrote:

parks lives wrote:Thats why if we started like that and Saha got injured, one of Rooney or Tevez could take his place and then Park or Giggs could go onto the wing.

we both know Rooney can't play as a lone striker - not yet anyway.

not sure about Tevez, but I've a feeling the same applies - Obispo?

Don't let the World cup showing cloud your judgement. He's done it great for us before. He just needs more support around him for it to work, something he didn't get for England. He also wasn't 100 % fit either.

Obispo wrote:I still think Tevez will end up in Spain when he does go, it's just a question of where. If he goes this season I think Sevilla will sign him.

If he comes to England Chelsea will get him. If Maureen doesn't want him Roman might + there's always the 'we'll have him so no one else can' scenario.

parks lives wrote:There'd be good as a partnership imo. Rooney doesn't need another Ruud next to him, he needs a player able to create chances and space for him.

Did anyone see the game last night by the way?

Fletcher was immense! Like Paul Ince in his prime.

So this is why the other board was sooooooo quiet

Parky what were your thaughts on teh Amstreadam tournement if your still around

poiuy1 wrote:

Parky what were your thaughts on teh Amstreadam tournement if your still around

Very good. If Rooney, Scholes didn't get sent off (Rooney wrongly, Scholes rightly) and Carrick didn't pick up the injury it would of been great.

Thought against Ajax the kids did excellent. Evans was amazing, considering he only flew out that day. Fletcher was immense and Rossi and Giggs created loads of problems.

Even Miller played well!!!!

Obispo wrote:Tevez and Rooney would be awful Parky. They occupy the exact same positions, just do different things when they receive the ball.

Rooney looks to pass or shoot from distance whereas Tevez is more likely to go on a weaving run. They couldn't play together though. No way.

People thought that Riquelme would get in the way of Rooney's "natural game", well Tevez will certainly do that, aswell as offer no movement ahead of Rooney for him to pass to.

Rooney needs a player who'll run off the shoulder of defenders like Saha, Owen etc someone of that ilk.

.......Gave me an
Tevez would work well in the Man U side...............With a retiring Scholes in the coming years Rooney could fit in the middle and would understand a Tevas like player better than most......Rooney still needs to show more and in an offensive middle formation could be awesome..

Yeah thats what Parky thinks

I think that Rooney may go the other way and develop into a player that can lead the line, he has the talent to do both

If Rooney was told to he could play with Tevez he would just have to be disciplined with ropes and whips

You Folks really believe Unided will play 4-5-1
4-4-2 and 4-3-3 I could live with.............

Brian2468 wrote:You Folks really believe Unided will play 4-5-1
4-4-2 and 4-3-3 I could live with.............

442 for the small teams with Scholes and Carrick

442 the argentine way prehaps although i doubt Fergie will try it

Against the big teams it will be 433/451 i'm 100% sure with Carrick Scholes Senna

Then Rooney on the left Ronaldo on the right and prehaps Evra at left wing back

Neville----- Ferdinand----Brown----Evra---

------------Senna--------Carrick-------------

-------------------Rooney---------------------

Ronaldo-----------Saha-------------Tevez---


Let Rooney tear up the middle in front of Senna and Carrick go for the gusto from the middle...........He will drag more players to him than anyone else leaving Carrick more space to needle a through ball to Ronaldo/Saha/ and Tevez.......Use Rooney for what he is best at... he causes lots of trouble and the middle would be a disaster for teams like Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea. Even Essien would have a hard time with him.. Then breaking forward from midfield Rooney could offer much to the team than playing as a target man or player in the hole.

Yeah could work, it will be interesting if we do sign Tevez although money bags will come a knocking i bet

Leaving out Heinze will cause some fans to explode there brian.

i prefer to keep it simple. 4-4-2 with rooney where he likes to be upfront, dropping deep when he likes.
vidic over brown for me, heinze over evra.

because most fans don't understand tactics

Evra offers a lot going foward he would provide width for Rooney or Tevez to cut inside that Heinze cannot

http://www.tribalfootball.com/article.php?id=7234

Lucarreli option for United?

Was watching some of the game again. This Simpson guy is pretty good.

yeah he is tipped for the top after stepping up to reserve football last year better then Bardsley going foward, Bardsley could well be a centre half

Evans was played really well

And note the performance from Fletch

News Just In:

Ole is in the Norway preliminary squad..hope Haestad (spell) is, heard so much good things about this talented midfielder.

SAF will not be pleased..

Hi guys ,

SAf is not happy and wants Ole to concentrate on the club.

Porto boss Co Adriaanse says Man Utd are 'crazy' to spend £18.6m on Michael Carrick - and claims that sort of money should only be spent on a 'painting or a work of art'. (Daily Mirror)

typical Co...

Co also said he has never heard of the player (Carrick)...

to be fair, u did spend way to much for carrick!

he is not that good.

he will be i think the money is irrelevent if he can perform to his potential

Plus it's 14 with add-ons, not 18.6 straight up (which would definitely be too much)...

Manchester United are planning to arrange a co-operation deal with Danish side Brondby.

The Premiership giants already have similar links in place with clubs around the globe, with the most prominent being with Royal Antwerp in Belgium.

But it appears Brondby could become a leading feeder club for United after Sir Alex Ferguson confirmed the proposal.

"We have clear plans to enter into a formal agreement with Brondby," Ferguson told Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet.

"The club is doing a fantastic job in developing young talent and I'm sure that a permanent arrangement will be something that both clubs will benefit from."

Brondby recently appointed Rene Meulensteen as their new coach, with the Dutchman having been The Red Devils' reserve team boss.

Former United youngster Mark Howard has also signed for the club and Ferguson confirmed he keeps in contact with Meulensteen.

He added: "Of course I follow what is happening in Denmark when Rene works there.

"He is a fantastic coach who I had many good years with in Manchester."

Brondby director Anders Bjerregaard has revealed he is looking forward to the opportunity to discuss the possibility of a partnership with United.

Bjerregaard said: "A conversation with Manchester United will be very interesting. We must, of course, hear what they have to say.

"But in the long run, I am sure that an agreement will be of great benefit to both partners.

"We can easily see ourselves taking the initiative and putting this enquiry to Manchester United to get a formalised agreement in place."

Thats great news a bigger club at a higher level then Antwerp with a former youth and reserve team coach of 6 years who knows all the players