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Season bets

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Post n°1

Season bets

by Sgoater1 Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:06 pm

I know its a bit early but i just wondered if people had started looking at making theres ?

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Monday 1st August 2011
Barclays Premier League Winner 11/12 - Win Outright

Man Utd 7/4 Chelsea 5/2
Man City 7/2 Arsenal 7/1
Liverpool 10/1 Tottenham 50/1
Aston Villa 250/1 Everton 250/1
Sunderland 750/1 Stoke 1000/1
Bolton 1000/1 Newcastle 1000/1
QPR 1500/1 Fulham 1500/1
West Brom 2000/1 Blackburn 2500/1
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Wolves 2500/1 Wigan 3000/1
Norwich City 5000/1 Swansea 5000/1

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Fernando Torres 8/1 Wayne Rooney 8/1
Carlos Tevez 8/1 Javier Hernandez 9/1
Robin Van Persie 10/1 Darren Bent 10/1
Didier Drogba 12/1 Luis Suarez 14/1
Mario Balotelli 18/1 Jermain Defoe 20/1
Andy Carroll 22/1 Edin Dzeko 25/1
Dimitar Berbatov 28/1 Nicolas Anelka 33/1
Rafael Van Der Vaart 40/1 Dirk Kuyt 40/1
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Frank Lampard 50/1 Marouane Chamakh 50/1
Asamoah Gyan 50/1 Peter Odemwingie 50/1
Florent Malouda 66/1 Hugo Rodallega 66/1
Nani 66/1 Steven Gerrard 66/1
Theo Walcott 66/1 Bobby Zamora 66/1
Peter Crouch 66/1 Cesc Fabregas 80/1
Ashley Young 80/1 Jermaine Beckford 80/1
Kevin Doyle 80/1 Adel Taarabt 100/1
Kenwyne Jones 100/1 Steven Fletcher 100/1
Tim Cahill 100/1 Steve Morison 100/1
Danny Graham 100/1 Jon Walters 125/1
Kevin Nolan 125/1 Scott Sinclair 125/1
Grant Holt 150/1 Heidar Helguson 150/1
James Vaughan 150/1 Michael Owen 250/1

Barclays Premier League Relegation 11/12 - Relegation

Swansea 4/7 Norwich 8/13
Q.P.R 6/4 Wigan 7/4
Wolves 9/4 Blackburn 3/1
West Brom 7/2 Bolton 6/1
Newcastle 6/1 Sunderland 8/1
Stoke City 9/1 Fulham 10/1
Aston Villa 20/1 Everton 25/1
Tottenham 250/1 Liverpool 500/1
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Arsenal 1000/1 Man City 1000/1
Chelsea 1000/1 Man Utd 1000/1

Barclays Premier League To Finish Bottom 11/12 - Finish Bottom

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Q.P.R 5/1 Wigan 7/1
Wolves 8/1 Blackburn 10/1
West Brom 14/1 Newcastle 20/1
Bolton 20/1 Sunderland 25/1
Fulham 33/1 Stoke City 40/1
Aston Villa 50/1 Everton 100/1
Tottenham 500/1 Liverpool 1000/1
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Man City 2000/1 Arsenal 2000/1
Man Utd 5000/1 Chelsea 5000/1

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Re: Season bets

by debaser Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:12 pm

Barclays Premier League Relegation 11/12 - Relegation

Aston Villa 20/1

Not a bad bet Sad

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Mon Jun 27, 2011 6:28 pm

debaser wrote:
Barclays Premier League Relegation 11/12 - Relegation

Aston Villa 20/1

Not a bad bet

I love your optimistic view on the forthcoming season mate Very Happy

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I think Blackburn might be one to drop but they should have money to spend with the chicken fuckers in charge and the £20m from Jones leaving (how much is another thing one Blackburn fan told me he expects them to spend £30m but i cant see that happening) but i think they have a shit manager and a bad squad at the mo that will struggle.

Wigan will find it tough this season if they sell their best players and dont replace them well but thats something everyone has said for the last few years and they always seem to hang in there.

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Re: Season bets

by Luis Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:39 pm

Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

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Re: Season bets

by debaser Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:50 pm

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans Ale

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:25 pm

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

Yeah i was surprised but i bet its based on the fact Modric and Bale have been lined with moves and Redknapp has said they have to sell before they buy...something i find a bit strange seen as they bid £30m for Aguero and Rossi in Jan..i guess they thought with those they would defo get champs league.

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:33 pm

Monday 1st August 2011
Npower Championship Winner 11/12 - Win Outright

West Ham 4/1
Leicester 13/2
Birmingham 9/1
Southampton 12/1
Reading 12/1
Nottingham Forest 12/1
Middlesbrough 12/1
Cardiff 14/1
Brighton 16/1
Burnley 16/1
Blackpool 16/1
Ipswich 16/1
Leeds 18/1
Hull City 25/1
Portsmouth 28/1
Millwall 33/1
Bristol City 33/1
Derby 40/1
Coventry 50/1
Peterborough 66/1
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Watford 66/1
Crystal Palace 80/1
Barnsley 100/1
Doncaster 100/1

Looking at the Championship i see the winner coming from West Ham, Forest, Leicester or Brum even though they hold the likes of Saints, Reading and Boro in similar regard.

If Hull make some good buys i think they could spring a surprise next year cos they have done well under Pearson and have some decent fire power with Fryatt and Mclean im surprised they are out at 25/1.

Brighton will do well also, Poyet has them set up really well and although theyve lost Murray they have made some good signings and will add more before the season starts. Its also not uncommon for teams to come up from League one and do pretty well so i can see why they are in at 16s.

I like the championship its always very competitive and hard to predict and i see it being no different next season.

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Re: Season bets

by christmasborocooper Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:53 pm

We wont be getting promoted this season IMO..we've bought noone..we've sold noone..we cant get rid of the ones we want to. The only player ive seen linked with a move away is Andy Taylor which would be a damn shame.

We should do better overall as we'll have Mowbray instead of Strachan..but playoffs at best is my prediction.

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Re: Season bets

by Chocolate Thunder Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:22 pm

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_- Ale

Ale

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:28 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:We wont be getting promoted this season IMO..we've bought noone..we've sold noone..we cant get rid of the ones we want to. The only player ive seen linked with a move away is Andy Taylor which would be a damn shame.

We should do better overall as we'll have Mowbray instead of Strachan..but playoffs at best is my prediction.

You should try and keep Lita imo he showed signs of getting back to his old form last season. If you can add a few new additions i agree you could get the play-offs cos you looked better under Mowbray but its such a tough league.

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Re: Season bets

by debaser Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:29 pm

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year Ale

Ale

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Re: Season bets

by Chocolate Thunder Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:31 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:We wont be getting promoted this season IMO..we've bought noone..we've sold noone..we cant get rid of the ones we want to. The only player ive seen linked with a move away is Andy Taylor which would be a damn shame.

We should do better overall as we'll have Mowbray instead of Strachan..but playoffs at best is my prediction.

I'm personally not into it but if you're into laying bets, Boro like a couple of others (an example being Cardiff) might be worth some value. Laying season long bets can prove very profitable but at the same time, you're asking to be burned.

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Re: Season bets

by Chocolate Thunder Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:48 pm

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but alas I'll answer this and head off. Bloody knackered.

In the best interest of a bookmaker, Liverpool would be priced around 25/1 like they were last season. 20/1 the figure let's say. Eventually drifting in good bit because of the enticing odds. Whether people see it simple as value or being delusional is a different matter. The odds won't drift in much this time around though, maybe 7/1 at a push. Setting the odds as they were last season guaranteed the bookies a tremendous pay day clearly.

I think bookies might be genuinely worried about us for a number of factors.

Only one team sticks out as value this year and it ain't a team who wear red. Far better value on the continent anyway as well as South America and Asia anyway.

edit - I for one won't have money on Liverpool.. actually maybe I'll have a minimum bet(10 cent) so the generalising BS agenda can carry on. Hmmmmmmm.

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:05 am

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but alas I'll answer this and head off. Bloody knackered.

In the best interest of a bookmaker, Liverpool would be priced around 25/1 like they were last season. 20/1 the figure let's say. Eventually drifting in good bit because of the enticing odds. Whether people see it simple as value or being delusional is a different matter. The odds won't drift in much this time around though, maybe 7/1 at a push. Setting the odds as they were last season guaranteed the bookies a tremendous pay day clearly.

I think bookies might be genuinely worried about us for a number of factors.

Only one team sticks out as value this year and it ain't a team who wear red. Far better value on the continent anyway as well as South America and Asia anyway.

edit - I for one won't have money on Liverpool.. actually maybe I'll have a minimum bet(10 cent) so the generalising BS agenda can carry on. Hmmmmmmm.

cheers

glad your backing us mate <Ale>

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Re: Season bets

by debaser Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:12 am

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but alas I'll answer this and head off. Bloody knackered.

In the best interest of a bookmaker, Liverpool would be priced around 25/1 like they were last season. 20/1 the figure let's say. Eventually drifting in good bit because of the enticing odds. Whether people see it simple as value or being delusional is a different matter. The odds won't drift in much this time around though, maybe 7/1 at a push. Setting the odds as they were last season guaranteed the bookies a tremendous pay day clearly.

I think bookies might be genuinely worried about us for a number of factors.

Only one team sticks out as value this year and it ain't a team who wear red. Far better value on the continent anyway as well as South America and Asia anyway.

edit - I for one won't have money on Liverpool.. actually maybe I'll have a minimum bet(10 cent) so the generalising BS agenda can carry on. Hmmmmmmm.

Smile

you taking my comments way more seriously than they worth..

Although I am now interested why bookmaker would not price something at that which is in their best interest scratch

scratch

Surely whatever they price it at has been calculated to be in their best interest, in terms of probabilities of risk/reward.

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:55 pm

A few other markets in case people are interested... i think Bolton bottom after 3 rounds is fair decent at 8/1 with QPR away, City at home then Liverpool away.

Opening Weekend 11/12 Specials

Top After 1st Game
Man. City 11/4
Liverpool 9/2
Chelsea 7/1
Man. Utd 7/1
Arsenal 8/1
Tottenham 12/1
Blackburn 16/1
Wigan 18/1
Q.P.R. 20/1
Aston Villa 25/1
Fulham 25/1
Bolton 28/1
Norwich 33/1
Newcastle 40/1
Wolves 40/1
Everton 40/1
Stoke 50/1
West Brom 50/1
Sunderland 66/1
Swansea 80/1

Bottom After 1st Game
Swansea 11/4
Sunderland 5/1
West Brom 8/1
Stoke 9/1
Newcastle 12/1
Wolves 12/1
Everton 12/1
Norwich 14/1
Bolton 16/1
Aston Villa 20/1
Q.P.R. 20/1
Wigan 20/1
Fulham 20/1
Tottenham 25/1
Blackburn 25/1
Arsenal 40/1
Chelsea 40/1
Man. Utd 40/1
Liverpool 66/1
Man. City 100/1

Highest Scoring Game
Man City v Swansea 7/2
West Brom v Man Utd 9/2
Liverpool v Sunderland 6/1
Newcastle v Arsenal 7/1
Stoke v Chelsea 7/1
Blackburn v Wolves 8/1
Tottenham v Everton 8/1
Fulham v Aston Villa 12/1

Bottom of table after opening three rounds
Win Special

Swansea 6/1
West Brom 6/1
Bolton 8/1
Stoke 9/1
Norwich 9/1
Q.P.R. 9/1
Sunderland 9/1
Newcastle 12/1
Wolves 14/1
Blackburn 14/1
Fulham 16/1
Tottenham 16/1
Everton 20/1
Aston Villa 25/1
Liverpool 33/1
Arsenal 33/1
Wigan 33/1
Man City 66/1
Man Utd 100/1
Chelsea 150/1

August Manager of the Month award winner 2011/2012 season

Win Special
Andre Villas-Boas 3/1
Alex Ferguson 4/1
Roberto Mancini 6/1
Kenny Dalglish 8/1
Alex McLeish 12/1
Arsene Wenger 14/1
Roberto Martinez 14/1
David Moyes 14/1
Martin Jol 20/1
Harry Redknapp 25/1
Mick McCarthy 25/1
Steve Kean 25/1
Alan Pardew 33/1
Tony Pulis 33/1
Paul Lambert 40/1
Neil Warnock 40/1
Steve Bruce 40/1
Brendan Rodgers 40/1
Roy Hodgson 40/1
Owen Coyle 40/1

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Re: Season bets

by christmasborocooper Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:30 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:

christmasborocooper wrote:We wont be getting promoted this season IMO..we've bought noone..we've sold noone..we cant get rid of the ones we want to. The only player ive seen linked with a move away is Andy Taylor which would be a damn shame.

We should do better overall as we'll have Mowbray instead of Strachan..but playoffs at best is my prediction.

You should try and keep Lita imo he showed signs of getting back to his old form last season. If you can add a few new additions i agree you could get the play-offs cos you looked better under Mowbray but its such a tough league.

I think Lita divides opinion. He is great on his day..quick, can be strong, can be deadly finishing..but other days he's useless..and even on the good days apparently his attitude is terrible.

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Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:50 pm

christmasborocooper wrote:

Sgoater1 wrote:

christmasborocooper wrote:We wont be getting promoted this season IMO..we've bought noone..we've sold noone..we cant get rid of the ones we want to. The only player ive seen linked with a move away is Andy Taylor which would be a damn shame.

We should do better overall as we'll have Mowbray instead of Strachan..but playoffs at best is my prediction.

You should try and keep Lita imo he showed signs of getting back to his old form last season. If you can add a few new additions i agree you could get the play-offs cos you looked better under Mowbray but its such a tough league.

I think Lita divides opinion. He is great on his day..quick, can be strong, can be deadly finishing..but other days he's useless..and even on the good days apparently his attitude is terrible.

If you keep Boyd then with Mcdonald you could sell Lita and bring in someone knew. Do you think Boyd will be given a chance cos he did well at Forest on loan. Maybe under Mowbray he would do well and if on form he could score a shit load in the champonship.

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Re: Season bets

by christmasborocooper Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:58 pm

Im not sure..Mowbray actually said a few months back something along the lines of "I hope Boyd scores lots of goals for Forest, then we might be able to sell him"..he said it would be to get his (apparently high) wages off the books..but I also wonder if he's just not Mowbrays sort of player. Im not convinced he fits in with the team anyway..as in, he's the lazy c**t poacher who relies on creative midfielders and wingers to make him loads of chances..we're a team with no good wingers and we really lack any sort of creative players in the middle.

I think he might end up being here but I really dont think that's what Mowbray wants.

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Re: Season bets

by stinger Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:27 pm

Sgoater1 wrote:

debaser wrote:
Barclays Premier League Relegation 11/12 - Relegation

Aston Villa 20/1

Not a bad bet

I love your optimistic view on the forthcoming season mate

I think Blackburn might be one to drop but they should have money to spend with the chicken fuckers in charge and the £20m from Jones leaving (how much is another thing one Blackburn fan told me he expects them to spend £30m but i cant see that happening) but i think they have a shit manager and a bad squad at the mo that will struggle.

Wigan will find it tough this season if they sell their best players and dont replace them well but thats something everyone has said for the last few years and they always seem to hang in there.

I think there is a pretty big chance of them losing Samba too, they won't be easy to replace.

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Re: Season bets

by Chocolate Thunder Wed Jun 29, 2011 11:35 am

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but alas I'll answer this and head off. Bloody knackered.

In the best interest of a bookmaker, Liverpool would be priced around 25/1 like they were last season. 20/1 the figure let's say. Eventually drifting in good bit because of the enticing odds. Whether people see it simple as value or being delusional is a different matter. The odds won't drift in much this time around though, maybe 7/1 at a push. Setting the odds as they were last season guaranteed the bookies a tremendous pay day clearly.

I think bookies might be genuinely worried about us for a number of factors.

Only one team sticks out as value this year and it ain't a team who wear red. Far better value on the continent anyway as well as South America and Asia anyway.

edit - I for one won't have money on Liverpool.. actually maybe I'll have a minimum bet(10 cent) so the generalising BS agenda can carry on. Hmmmmmmm.

you taking my comments way more seriously than they worth..

Although I am now interested why bookmaker would not price something at that which is in their best interest Surely whatever they price it at has been calculated to be in their best interest, in terms of probabilities of risk/reward.

You surely know by now I don't pedal some of the rubbish spouted here by Liverpool supporters, not those on are presented on Sky, read tabloids, etc. Some of them are gobshites and yes, delusional.

I'll be frank, the likelihood of Liverpool winning title number 19 this coming season in the eyes of those who have a clue is slim to none. Top 4 is well achievable, not a guarantee, but achievable nonetheless. Bookies are generally worried about the form both results and performance wise at the end of last season we(LFC) produced. As well as there is ' The Kenny factor ' as well. The latter of which is playing heavily on the minds of bookies hence why the odds are as low as they are. If it weren't for him, the odds would be much closer to 20/1 than 10/1. I work in a bookies, and have been working for sometime now. I have questioned this policy. Because they are overrating us no doubt. Their is less risk for them in the business end of things. As a Liverpool supporter I'd love to say different.

Bookies were confident in the squad being shoddy plus the ability of Woy as a coach and that saw odds as a high as they were originally.

As I said before, there is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar better value out there if people look for it. EPL betting is for the foolish anyway. The occasional dabble in it is fine. Bookies made an absolute killing over the course of the last 2 seasons, people should broaden their betting horizons Smile

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As for Villa being relegated. Nah. Bent alone will keep Villa up despite the losses of Young, and soon to be Downing if media is correct. No matter what people think of McLeish or Brum, they were unfortunate with injuries to key players soon after winning the Carling Cup.

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edit - oh and on a general note. If people here depend on accumulators and the like, a big fucking lol!

lol!

@ you. Moronic is being extremely kind. Chins Ale

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Re: Season bets

by Aristoskank Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:30 pm

El LoCo Craque wrote:Bookies are generally worried about the form both results and performance wise at the end of last season we(LFC) produced.

Your last 15 games form: DWLWLDWLWDWWWLL

Hardly the stuff of champions. And I imagine the odds are more about the amount of money you're spending than the 'Kenny factor'. But no, you're not half as deluded as some of the LFC supporters on here.

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Re: Season bets

by debaser Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:53 pm

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but alas I'll answer this and head off. Bloody knackered.

In the best interest of a bookmaker, Liverpool would be priced around 25/1 like they were last season. 20/1 the figure let's say. Eventually drifting in good bit because of the enticing odds. Whether people see it simple as value or being delusional is a different matter. The odds won't drift in much this time around though, maybe 7/1 at a push. Setting the odds as they were last season guaranteed the bookies a tremendous pay day clearly.

I think bookies might be genuinely worried about us for a number of factors.

Only one team sticks out as value this year and it ain't a team who wear red. Far better value on the continent anyway as well as South America and Asia anyway.

edit - I for one won't have money on Liverpool.. actually maybe I'll have a minimum bet(10 cent) so the generalising BS agenda can carry on. Hmmmmmmm.

you taking my comments way more seriously than they worth..

Although I am now interested why bookmaker would not price something at that which is in their best interest Surely whatever they price it at has been calculated to be in their best interest, in terms of probabilities of risk/reward.

You surely know by now I don't pedal some of the rubbish spouted here by Liverpool supporters, not those on are presented on Sky, read tabloids, etc. Some of them are gobshites and yes, delusional.

Heh, my comments certainly weren't aimed at you.. Just used your post as platform for attempted cheap gag-making..

Interesting reading on the betting knowledge. Don't gamble myself. Can't be bothered to put in the time you need to possibly make money from it..Does not surprise me in the least that bookies clean up on PL betting..

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Post n°24

Re: Season bets

by Chocolate Thunder Wed Jun 29, 2011 2:46 pm

Deferring the Apocalypse wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:Bookies are generally worried about the form both results and performance wise at the end of last season we(LFC) produced.

Your last 15 games form: DWLWLDWLWDWWWLL

Hardly the stuff of champions. And I imagine the odds are more about the amount of money you're spending than the 'Kenny factor'. But no, you're not half as deluded as some of the LFC supporters on here.

It isn't no. But the form book up until the Spurs game made for interesting reading. We were second (correct me if I'm wrong for a large period of Kenny's time last season). I'am trying to add some logic to the madness, and as said while I do not agree with the odds whatsoever, but I can see where they are coming from... I know better than that though.

Indeed money also plays a factor, you're right there.

Also the fact, we'll have Gerrard raring to go after a very stop start season last season due to injury. Carroll will be fully fit too. Probably more variables I, you or someone else here could mention that factor into the odds being as long as they are.

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Post n°25

Re: Season bets

by Aristoskank Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:28 pm

You mean second in the imaginary form table? Yes, I think you were for a patch, but I also think next season's champions will have to perform better, and score more points, than this season's.

Liverpool are a decent bet for the CL spots, particularly if as expected Arsenal sell Fabregas (and possibly Nasri too). But I cannot see them finishing ahead of City, Chelsea or ManYoo, let alone all three of them.

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Post n°26

Re: Season bets

by Luis Wed Jun 29, 2011 5:19 pm

Who's saying Liverpool can or will win the title? As usual, people are believing what they want to believe and are regurgitating the same old agenda-driven drivel that Liverpool fans think we'll win the league every season. I haven't thought or said on here we can win the league since we finished second. The season after that I beleived we could challenge for the title based on the brillitant team-spirit we showed in the 08/09 season and the fact that we'd only lost one key player in Alonso but as it turned out his loss was bigger than I or any other fan could have imagined.

Since we finished 7th most Liverpool fans have predicted us to finish 5th or 6th with a few optimistic fans going for 4th. If you can find evidence on here that I or COTR etc predicted us to finish higher than by all means dig it out for me.

Next season I'd predict us to finish 5th right now but depending on what happens over the rest of the summer I could change that to 4th. We wont be close to winning or challenging for the title IMO because we've been set back far too much by the shambolic reign of Hicks and Gilette and Purslow. We're still suffering in the fact that we have a lot of rubbish players on ridiculously high wages who will be hard to sell and thus meaning our squad registration can't be completed until they are sold. We can't go out and buy Downing, Adam and Mata if we can't sell Joe Cole, Konchesky, Ngog, Jovanovic, Poulsen. It's not football manager, it's real life. These are players who we have to pay whilst they're contracted to the club and who, if we can't ship out, will still have to pay and even register in the squad because they're under contract. Purslow obviously though it very clever to offer Joe Cole such high wages because we signed him for free; at that time no one had a fucking clue about the future, no one thought about next season because deep down people weren't even sure if the club would exist let alone be aiming for Champions League football. He just wanted to appease the fans by saying look we're struggling financially, we may not be able to go out and buy a world class young player for £25 million but here's Joe Cole, a new defensive mid to replace Mascherano who's cheap and a left back we've needed since Riise left. Unfortunately they were brainless, economically poor transfers that are hampering us doing our buying this summer.

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Re: Season bets

by Aristoskank Wed Jun 29, 2011 6:30 pm

Luis wrote:Who's saying Liverpool can or will win the title? As usual, people are believing what they want to believe and are regurgitating the same old agenda-driven drivel that Liverpool fans think we'll win the league every season.

Time of the month or something?

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Post n°28

Re: Season bets

by Sgoater1 Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:14 am

Who will score the most...i thought these might interest a few people.

Goalscorer Match Bet 1 - Van Persie v Hernandez

Javier Hernandez 4/5
Robin Van Persie 10/11

Goalscorer Match Bet 2 - Torres v Carroll

Fernando Torres 4/6
Andy Carroll 11/10

Goalscorer Match Bet 3 - Drogba v Defoe

Didier Drogba 8/11
Jermain Defoe evens

Goalscorer Match Bet 4 - Bent v Saurez

Luis Saurez 5/6
Darren Bent 5/6

Goalscorer Match Bet 5 - Balotelli v Berbatov

Mario Balotelli 4/5
Dimitar Berbatov 10/11

Goalscorer Match Bet 6 - Dzeko v Kuyt

Edin Dzeko 4/6
Dirk Kuyt 11/10

Goalscorer Match Bet 7 - Rooney v Van Persie

Wayne Rooney 4/5
Robin Van Persie 10/11

Goalscorer Match Bet 8 - Gyan v Odemwingie

Peter Odemwingie 5/6
Asamoah Gyan 5/6

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Post n°29

Re: Season bets

by Chris 23* Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:55 pm

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

El LoCo Craque wrote:

debaser wrote:

Luis wrote:Surprised we're favoured far more than Spurs are to win the title but then if Spurs lose Modric they will be far less impressive.

The odds come from what people are betting...all it means is there's far more delusional Liver fans than delusional Spurs fans

Agendas -_-

I can guarantee the odds are the same as they were from the off so punters haven't been factored yet. Reference oddschecker.com or if it matters that much, contact the established bookmakers and they'll tell you what I have just said.

Clearly when setting the original odds they factor in the long-term delusionality whereby every year is Liver's year

I'm not sure why I'm bothering, but alas I'll answer this and head off. Bloody knackered.

In the best interest of a bookmaker, Liverpool would be priced around 25/1 like they were last season. 20/1 the figure let's say. Eventually drifting in good bit because of the enticing odds. Whether people see it simple as value or being delusional is a different matter. The odds won't drift in much this time around though, maybe 7/1 at a push. Setting the odds as they were last season guaranteed the bookies a tremendous pay day clearly.

I think bookies might be genuinely worried about us for a number of factors.

Only one team sticks out as value this year and it ain't a team who wear red. Far better value on the continent anyway as well as South America and Asia anyway.

edit - I for one won't have money on Liverpool.. actually maybe I'll have a minimum bet(10 cent) so the generalising BS agenda can carry on. Hmmmmmmm.

you taking my comments way more seriously than they worth..

Although I am now interested why bookmaker would not price something at that which is in their best interest Surely whatever they price it at has been calculated to be in their best interest, in terms of probabilities of risk/reward.

Laughing

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