Yeah Right!

Looks like corruption has reared its ugly head again. While almost everywhere else the road to Brasil has not begun yet, Indonesia are already out and so should Bahrain be. Bahrain needed to beat Indonesia at least 9-0 to have any chance of progressing. They won 10-0! INdonesia denies throwing the match. FIFA is investigating. That should spread confidence of getting to the bottom of this.

A bit like the Lyon - Dinamo game and the Ajax vs Madrid games.

Good find EMP,this one is even more obvious.

Good find? It was one of the main articles on the Guardian yesterday. FYI Indonesia where down to 10 men in 2 minutes.

I don't buy Newspapers and only visit the Sports section of the Guardian website 2 or 3 times a week.

But at least EMP put some effort in by posting the scandal here

No doubt 10% will be along soon to "debunk" another "conspiracy."

Well it was all for nothing. Qatar got the draw with Iran that put Bahrain out anyway.

What a conspiracy!

More of these please.

The gamble didn't pay off unlike the way it did for Lyon,good I hate corruption in Sport.South Koreas run to the SF of the 2002 WC pissed me off so bad as well.

Rosicky wrote:What a conspiracy!

More of these please.

So you don't think it the slightest bit suspicious? Yet again your ignorance astounds. What a brilliant investigator you would make. I hear there are vacancies for the terminally thick and incompetent with the IPCC. You should apply.

No doubt it escaped your attention that in the Argentina/Peru debacle of 1978 the central figure was a goalkeeper. You don't think it possible that there was a fix and the keeper getting sent off very early was part of it?

The result goes against form guides, recent history and just about any logical explanation. Weakened or not, and they were for previous matches too, it is clearly suspicious, whether or not it was actually fixed.

Once again your ignorance knows no bounds. Congratulations.

EMP wrote:

Rosicky wrote:What a conspiracy!

More of these please.

So you don't think it the slightest bit suspicious? Yet again your ignorance astounds. What a brilliant investigator you would make. I hear there are vacancies for the terminally thick and incompetent with the IPCC. You should apply.

No doubt it escaped your attention that in the Argentina/Peru debacle of 1978 the central figure was a goalkeeper. You don't think it possible that there was a fix and the keeper getting sent off very early was part of it?

The result goes against form guides, recent history and just about any logical explanation. Weakened or not, and they were for previous matches too, it is clearly suspicious, whether or not it was actually fixed.

Once again your ignorance knows no bounds. Congratulations.

+1

I don't think they're stupid though,people like him and 10% are just too close minded,they refuse or are unable to see anything that doesn't fit their programmed(by the media and Government Education) reality.

Even when the facts highly suggest something isn't as it seems they choose to ridicule the "conspiracy" out of fear.In that way I kind of pity them because it isn't their fault.

The Blackest Lie wrote:

+1

I don't think they're stupid though,people like him and 10% are just too close minded,they refuse or are unable to see anything that doesn't fit their programmed(by the media and Government Education) reality.

Even when the facts highly suggest something isn't as it seems they choose to ridicule the "conspiracy" out of fear.In that way I kind of pity them because it isn't their fault.

This worms guy is like a time warp to how the Board was 5 years ago, word for word

COTR wrote:

The Blackest Lie wrote:

+1

I don't think they're stupid though,people like him and 10% are just too close minded,they refuse or are unable to see anything that doesn't fit their programmed(by the media and Government Education) reality.

Even when the facts highly suggest something isn't as it seems they choose to ridicule the "conspiracy" out of fear.In that way I kind of pity them because it isn't their fault.

This worms guy is like a time warp to how the Board was 5 years ago, word for word

Just seen this thread. The 10-0 defeat is our new record but believe me there was no conspiracy at all. Our current NT, from the A-Z factors, is the shittiest we could ever have,

FYI, the team that played in Bahrain weren't our main NT but the mix between U-23 and amateurs who play in Indonesian Premier League or IPL (formed by the current Indonesian FA, under control of Arifin Panigoro). Our real NT players aren't allowed to play for the country as long as they play in Indonesian Super League or ISL (our real football league which is formed by the previous IFA, under control of Nirwan Bakrie) which is considered to be illegal by the current IFA. In other words, atm we have 2 main football leagues, ISL (Nirwan) and 'the legal' one IPL (Arifin). This Nirwan and Arifin are rivals in politic and hate each others from head to toe. ISL is more professional and organized that's why our best players choose to stay rather than move to IPL clubs.

To make things funnier, there are clubs using the same name, same badge, same jersey colour etc but actually they are different teams e.g Persija ISL(the real one) and Persija IPL( fake one, just use the name to attract attention/sponsorship)

Pras_tama wrote:Just seen this thread. The 10-0 defeat is our new record but believe me there was no conspiracy at all.

FYI, the team that played in Bahrain weren't our main NT but the mix between U-23 and amateurs who play in Indonesian Premier League or IPL (formed by the current Indonesian FA, under control of Arifin Panigoro). Our real NT players aren't allowed to play for the country as long as they play in Indonesian Super League or ISL (our real football league which is formed by the previous IFA, under control of Nirwan Bakrie) which is considered to be illegal by the current IFA. In other words, atm we have 2 main football leagues, ISL (Nirwan) and 'the legal' one IPL (Arifin). This Nirwan and Arifin are rivals in politic and hate each others from head to toe. ISL is more professional and organized that's why our best players choose to stay rather than move to IPL clubs.

The funny thing is there will be 2 clubs use the same name, same badge, same jersey etc but actually their different teams e.g Persija ISL(the real one) and Persija IPL( fake one, just use the name to attract attention)

Pras: I know all this, but while there is no doubt that Indonesia has been weakened by self-inflicted wounds, those points applied to earlier matches too. Even taking this round of qualifiers alone, this result stands out as incredibly and unusually bad. The previous worst was 4-0 I believe. That was with the weakened team too was it not? This is significantly worse. It may not be a conspiracy - it could be a crap performance by crap or inexperienced players, but it is on any view suspicious.

It needs to be investigated, but by a credible independent group of investigators. Point was FIFA. Does anyone trust them to get to the bottom of this and even if they reach correct conclusions, will it be believed?

Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

EMP wrote:

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

Just as I suspected.

What do you mean by Lengan Indonesia, saudaraku Fey?

If Feyenoord are looking for Indonesian's talent, I suggest you to go to the eastern part of Indonesia i.e Maluku, Irian and Papua because their people, like Brazil, were born to play football. The problem is most of them have shit mentality as they won't live anywhere far from their family

I don't know, sh!t teams get demolished all the time in qualifiers. Faroe Islands, San Marino, Malta....Venezuela back in the old days.

EMP wrote:

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain
came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should
be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans
than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed
to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the
Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

You are wrong man, the Bahrain game was our first game with this amateurs NT. The team which got beaten 0-4 by Iran was our real NT.

It wasn't that questionable why our NT easily conceeded 10 goals. We were 1 one man down since the 4th minute, had to play in the cold Bahrain evening (which was hard for this tropical team), and we were, with these amateurs inexperienced players, at least IMO 2
levels under Bahrain (fyi Bahrain won 2-0 vs our real NT in Jakarta)

Jaime wrote:I don't know, sh!t teams get demolished all the time in qualifiers. Faroe Islands, San Marino, Malta....Venezuela back in the old days.

They were beaten by the better teams Iran and Qatar, but demolished by the third best in the group with a score that just happened to be enough to put Bahrain through if Iran had beaten Qatar. There may not have been a fix, but it is plainly suspicious and should be investigated.

Fey: There is no doubt that there is talent there. Indonesia has done nothing in world football, but as I said you already have a phenomenal conversion rate in the Netherlands. With decent coaching, etc. there you could succeed, but be careful you talk to the right representatives of Indonesian football. The current ones are idiots. The previous ones are the ones to talk to.

Not sure why you don't look at South Moluccas too. There is talent there and no offence, but the Dutch owe them one. A good bit of football investment there could work wonders for international relations.

Got to bear in mind that teams often take their foot off pedal when winning comfortably - fact they 'only' lost 3 or 4 nil before, doesn't mean their opposition couldn't have scored more had they really needed to. Bahrain knew they had to win big to have a chance so they would be pushing to score as many as possible.

Pras Trama's points about the team also make it sound less suspicious.

Perhaps worth investigating if there was suspicious events in the game itself, but scoreline alone is not necessarily grounds.

Pras_tama wrote:

EMP wrote:

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain
came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should
be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans
than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed
to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the
Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

You are wrong man, the Bahrain game was our first game with this amateurs NT. The team which got beaten 0-4 by Iran was our real NT.

It wasn't that questionable why our NT easily conceeded 10 goals. We were 1 one man down since the 4th minute, had to play in the cold Bahrain evening (which was hard for this tropical team), and we were, with these amateurs inexperienced players, at least IMO 2
levels under Bahrain (fyi Bahrain won 2-0 vs our real NT in Jakarta)

Fair enough, but why if this was the case, have FIFA started an investigation, citing the unusual facts of previous form, results etc.? And also why is the current governing body getting away with demolishing the credibility of Indonesian football?

EMP wrote:

Pras_tama wrote:

EMP wrote:

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain
came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should
be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak
results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans
than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed
to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the
Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

You are wrong man, the Bahrain game was our first game with this amateurs NT. The team which got beaten 0-4 by Iran was our real NT.

It wasn't that questionable why our NT easily conceeded 10 goals. We were 1 one man down since the 4th minute, had to play in the cold Bahrain evening (which was hard for this tropical team), and we were, with these amateurs inexperienced players, at least IMO 2
levels under Bahrain (fyi Bahrain won 2-0 vs our real NT in Jakarta)

Fair enough, but why if this was the case, have FIFA started an investigation, citing the unusual facts of previous form, results etc.? And also why is the current governing body getting away with demolishing the credibility of Indonesian football?

For the first question, you have to ask FIFA yourself mate , if there is any conspiracy, it is between the Bahrain NT and the match officials, our teams aren't involve

For the second question, simple, Arifin Panigoro, the godfather of the current Indonesian FA, is the right hand/best mate of The President of Indonesia.

Pras_tama wrote:

EMP wrote:

Pras_tama wrote:

EMP wrote:

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain
came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should
be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak
results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans
than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed
to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the
Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

You are wrong man, the Bahrain game was our first game with this amateurs NT. The team which got beaten 0-4 by Iran was our real NT.

It wasn't that questionable why our NT easily conceeded 10 goals. We were 1 one man down since the 4th minute, had to play in the cold Bahrain evening (which was hard for this tropical team), and we were, with these amateurs inexperienced players, at least IMO 2
levels under Bahrain (fyi Bahrain won 2-0 vs our real NT in Jakarta)

Fair enough, but why if this was the case, have FIFA started an investigation, citing the unusual facts of previous form, results etc.? And also why is the current governing body getting away with demolishing the credibility of Indonesian football?

For the first question, you have to ask FIFA yourself mate , if there is any conspiracy, it is between the Bahrain NT and the match officials, our teams aren't involve

For the second question, simple, Arifin Panigoro, the godfather of the current Indonesian FA, is the right hand/best mate of The President of Indonesia.

I didn't know you could mind read all the Indonesia players minds and the Managers mind,impressive.

I watched the game mate, and if it was all fake and fixed then all of our players should be nominated for the next Oscar/Academy Awards

You watched it all? Most normal people would stop watching when it got to 5 - 0

For God Sake, yes I did watch it untill the very end

I am not A CHANNEL FLICKING WHORE like you

Pras_tama wrote:

EMP wrote:

Pras_tama wrote:

EMP wrote:

Fey wrote:Lengan Indonesia

However, when I heard of the result I thought the same thing. It's a bribe. Buuuut. According to the Dutch coach, who are always honest, he was forced to take some -23 players with him. Cause the better players, play in some sort of illegal league that can not be selected for the nt. And dont forget they had 4 penalties against them and the keeper was send off.

What's more shocking is that if India China and Indonesia, almost half the world population, cant come up with even 11 decent players. Perhaps its better we take control again, if you see how much talent we can pull out of a 300k Suriname, imagine the possibilities for Indonesia. Feyenoord is already talking with the Indonesian FA for cooperation. Hope it works better then our Africa project.

Fey: There is no doubt that Pras is right about the organisation of football in Indonesia. The ones in charge at the moment are a bad joke. The previous ones organised a decent league that the best players joined. These clowns banned them and made the national team a joke.

However, the fact remains that this result is considerably worse than anything that even the second-raters managed before. Bahrain
came third in the group for a reason. They were not better than Iran or Qatar. These same players played against better teams and did not get completely thrashed. Why not?

There is something suspicious about this result. Whether it was corrupt or not, I don't know, but at first sight it looks dodgy and should
be investigated. Perhaps there needs to be an Independent Anti-corruption Unit that people can trust to get to the bottom of freak
results like this.

By the way proportionately to population, the Netherlands has an even better conversion rate with Indonesians and South Moluccans
than Suriname - ridiculous really. There is no football tradition in either Indonesia or the islands, but take them to Holland and suddenly they can play. I believe Michael Mols has Indonesian origins and van Bronckhorst South Moluccan. Often wondered how you managed
to get such success with them. Cape Verde Islands too.

Like I said in another thread, the problem at Gomoa Fetteh was your scouting. The talent is plainly available in Ghana - they won the
Under-20 World Cup not so long ago. How did they do that without talent? Either that or your scouting was crap.

You are wrong man, the Bahrain game was our first game with this amateurs NT. The team which got beaten 0-4 by Iran was our real NT.

It wasn't that questionable why our NT easily conceeded 10 goals. We were 1 one man down since the 4th minute, had to play in the cold Bahrain evening (which was hard for this tropical team), and we were, with these amateurs inexperienced players, at least IMO 2
levels under Bahrain (fyi Bahrain won 2-0 vs our real NT in Jakarta)

Fair enough, but why if this was the case, have FIFA started an investigation, citing the unusual facts of previous form, results etc.? And also why is the current governing body getting away with demolishing the credibility of Indonesian football?

For the first question, you have to ask FIFA yourself mate , if there is any conspiracy, it is between the Bahrain NT and the match officials, our teams aren't involve

For the second question, simple, Arifin Panigoro, the godfather of the current Indonesian FA, is the right hand/best mate of The President of Indonesia.

Is the Indonesian President interfering with the organisation of the Indonesian FA? If so, why isn't FIFA suspending it?

No mate, Our President isn't interfering our football, at least that is how it looks on the surface. Our government, in this case, The ministry of youth and sport, did try to solve this chaos but our football pundits reminded that their involvement could only made things worse.

You see, our country is familiar with corruption and nepotism. If someone is elected as a president, then he'll choose his own families/best mates to hold some important roles in this country

Pras_tama wrote:No mate, Our President isn't interfering our football, at least that is how it looks on the surface. Our government, in this case, The ministry of youth and sport, did try to solve this chaos but our football pundits reminded that their involvement could only made things worse.

You see, our country is familiar with corruption and nepotism. If someone is elected as a president, then he'll choose his own families/best mates to hold some important roles in this country

If the government isn't interfering in this, how did it go so wrong? It seems like the previous FA was doing reasonably well in organising your football and the new one came and made a complete mess.