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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 10, 2013 6:55 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
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    Kimbo wrote:The commentators were wanking themselves silly over Gerrard last night. It's so transparent, they hype him up for playing well against this pub side, but when he looks out of his depth against a decent side, a half decent side, or Scotland, then they say nothing. Gerrard will go through his entire England career without ever being scrutinised.
    It's so transparent Kimmy Very Happy 

    I don't know how true it is though. 

    Gerrard is regularly England's best players. 

    When he is out of his depth, it's often the case that he's not the only one, and not the worst. 

    It's so transparent, to what end? 

    Anyway, that's not what I came on here to talk about.

    I'm wondering why, if Welbeck is so important, did he need to play against Moldova?

    Did geriatrics Gerrard and Lampard both need to play, so close to such an important game?

    If Ashley Cole is important enough to take off at half time to avoid him getting booked, why did he need to play at all? This is the only position where the backup is as good as the first choice.

    For all Hodge Podge's supposed dedication to the future, he ignored all the youngsters in a game where he could have afforded to give them a run out, with the bonus of keeping the senior citizens fresh for Tuesday.

    Here's a game where Henderson, Wilshere and Cleverley could have started; rather than waiting for them to be needed in an emergency situation; we could have blooded them together in an easy competitive fixture. 

    It's so transparent Mad
    It depends on where you get your opinions really. Townsend loves him, but on the newcastle forum I post on he is seen as a joke for England. I certainly don't see him as regularly being one of Englands best players myself.

    The transparency is about certain English players having their reputations protected, I don't know why. Gerrard isn't the only one, Rooney gets away with it, Terry and Beckham always got away with it aswell.
    Hmmm who to believe, Townsend or Newcastle fans. Fuck it, I think I'll decide for myself. I've decided - Gerrard has been one of England's best players for the last ten years, scoring, assisting, being a good leader and working hard. The other night he was brilliant, dictated the play, provided some stunning deliveries and scored a good goal.

    I don't really see how you could suggest he's a joke or that he wasn't anything other than excellent the other night for England.

    I suppose if that lanky Geordie horse had put in a similar performance you'd be loving it.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:04 pm

    Dictated the play!!!

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    You mean against the likes of Moldova surely?
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    Post by Kroos Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:23 pm

    i will watch this game

    can`t bother me to watch such an crap opponent like farör islands

    COME ON YOU ENGLANDS a WORLD CUP WITHOUT AN ENGLAND FAIL IN THE QUARTERS IS NOT A REAL WORLD CUP
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:31 pm

    will.i.glenn wrote:Just as frustrating is that he hasn't called anyone else up, so our options are Lambert and Defoe. Were Crouch, Agbonlahor, Fraizer Campbell, Jay Rodriguez, Darren Bent etc considered? They may not be world beaters, but they're getting a lot more football than Jermaine Defoe and would surely be a better option than sticking Chris Smalling up front, which is where we're headed.
    indeed. I read some bizarre comment he made where he didn't want to call up an extra player who was only going to be cover scratch He's gonna be looking stupid if Lambert gets injured after 5 mins.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:41 pm

    What was that shit they had to read out?

    It was like a pair of school kids doing a bible reading at the Christmas play.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:47 pm

    Shouldve been a pen to Ukraine within the first minute.
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:47 pm

    That should've been a 30 second penalty. lol! 

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    Post by Murray Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:48 pm

    ref bottled it
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:53 pm

    Fucking Christ... Is Hart asleep?
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:53 pm

    Joe Hart gets a freekick for fucking up again.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:57 pm

    We just saw why Gerrard shouldn't be "unleashed at centre half".
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:07 pm

    christmasborocooper wrote:We just saw why Gerrard shouldn't be "unleashed at centre half".
    He didn't miss the header, he deliberately dummied it to fool the player behind ok (oh, Townsend Laughing )
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    Post by Isco Benny Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:20 pm

    Rickie Lambert making a mockery of the reputation of his better known team mates. Proves that doing the simple things tidily with good technique and vision is more than enough to excel at international level.

    Growing to rather love the guy.
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    Post by Kroos Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:28 pm

    it`s like bolton vs. stoke
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    Post by NeoChap Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:41 pm

    debaser wrote:
    will.i.glenn wrote:Just as frustrating is that he hasn't called anyone else up, so our options are Lambert and Defoe. Were Crouch, Agbonlahor, Fraizer Campbell, Jay Rodriguez, Darren Bent etc considered? They may not be world beaters, but they're getting a lot more football than Jermaine Defoe and would surely be a better option than sticking Chris Smalling up front, which is where we're headed.
    indeed. I read some bizarre comment he made where he didn't want to call up an extra player who was only going to be cover :scratch: He's gonna be looking stupid if Lambert gets injured after 5 mins.
    It's like Football Weekly, all over again!

    Lampard's fucking up whenever he's got time to make a decision, but I guess the alternative is the third or fourth best player from this summer's glorious U21 crop.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:42 pm

    Kroos wrote:it`s like bolton vs. stoke
    lol!
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:07 pm

    This game is painfully bad. Our entire group is just one big lump of shit.
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:09 pm

    yep 2nd half been atrocious so far. foul after foul & zero quality. I can see us losing it in the last 10 mins.
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:10 pm

    Another wonderful performance from Jack Wheelchair.
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:15 pm

    Kyle Walker has definitely looked like our danger man all match - in the most-likely-to-fuck-up sense.

    that was fortunately deflected wide 'cause I think it was going in otherwise.
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:15 pm

    and that was fucking shit Walcott Doh
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    Post by COTR Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:16 pm

    Luxembourg 3-2 Northern Ireland

    Luxembourg are ranked 140th in the world - one behind Afghanistan - and tonight is their first win at home since 1972.


    A proud moment to be Northern Irish
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    Post by debaser Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:18 pm

    COTR wrote:Luxembourg 3-2 Northern Ireland

    Luxembourg are ranked 140th in the world - one behind Afghanistan - and tonight is their first win at home since 1972.


    A proud moment to be Northern Irish
    Bizarre that they managed to beat Russia at home and draw at Portugal, but only get 1 pt from two matches against Luxembourg! I'm gonna guess that current manager is not long for the job.
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:21 pm

    COTR wrote:Luxembourg 3-2 Northern Ireland

    Luxembourg are ranked 140th in the world - one behind Afghanistan - and tonight is their first win at home since 1972.


    A proud moment to be Northern Irish
    lol! 
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:22 pm

    Find it mental how Defoe can't get a game for club or country; he's always got a goal in him!
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:23 pm

    debaser wrote:Kyle Walker has definitely looked like our danger man all match - in the most-likely-to-fuck-up sense.

    that was fortunately deflected wide 'cause I think it was going in otherwise.
    He looks like he's having a mare. Needs some laughing gas ok 
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:23 pm

    Painful stuff this.
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    Post by christmasborocooper Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:29 pm

    86th minute.. Walcott off..... Cleverly on. Hmm.
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:30 pm

    Hodge is a tactical genius.
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    Post by Luis Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:33 pm

    @grahamsibley This match is like watching two mums play FIFA

    Laughing 

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