Hmmm who to believe, Townsend or Newcastle fans. Fuck it, I think I'll decide for myself. I've decided - Gerrard has been one of England's best players for the last ten years, scoring, assisting, being a good leader and working hard. The other night he was brilliant, dictated the play, provided some stunning deliveries and scored a good goal.Kimbo wrote:It depends on where you get your opinions really. Townsend loves him, but on the newcastle forum I post on he is seen as a joke for England. I certainly don't see him as regularly being one of Englands best players myself.will.i.glenn wrote:It's so transparent KimmyKimbo wrote:The commentators were wanking themselves silly over Gerrard last night. It's so transparent, they hype him up for playing well against this pub side, but when he looks out of his depth against a decent side, a half decent side, or Scotland, then they say nothing. Gerrard will go through his entire England career without ever being scrutinised.
I don't know how true it is though.
Gerrard is regularly England's best players.
When he is out of his depth, it's often the case that he's not the only one, and not the worst.
It's so transparent, to what end?
Anyway, that's not what I came on here to talk about.
I'm wondering why, if Welbeck is so important, did he need to play against Moldova?
Did geriatrics Gerrard and Lampard both need to play, so close to such an important game?
If Ashley Cole is important enough to take off at half time to avoid him getting booked, why did he need to play at all? This is the only position where the backup is as good as the first choice.
For all Hodge Podge's supposed dedication to the future, he ignored all the youngsters in a game where he could have afforded to give them a run out, with the bonus of keeping the senior citizens fresh for Tuesday.
Here's a game where Henderson, Wilshere and Cleverley could have started; rather than waiting for them to be needed in an emergency situation; we could have blooded them together in an easy competitive fixture.
It's so transparent
The transparency is about certain English players having their reputations protected, I don't know why. Gerrard isn't the only one, Rooney gets away with it, Terry and Beckham always got away with it aswell.
I don't really see how you could suggest he's a joke or that he wasn't anything other than excellent the other night for England.
I suppose if that lanky Geordie horse had put in a similar performance you'd be loving it.