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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:14 am

    El director general ejecutivo del Espanyol, Pedro Tomás, anunció que su club ha enviado un escrito de queja a la Real Federación Española de Fútbol, a la FIFA y al Barcelona en respuesta a la participación de los barcelonistas Xavi y Puyol en el partido de la Supercopa de España disputado en Montjuic (0-1).

    "Jugadores convocados por su selección y que no pueden jugar con ella debido a lesiones certificadas por un médico tampoco pueden jugar con su equipo en los cinco días siguientes a la disputa de los partidos internacionales", expresó Pedro Tomás apelando al reglamento de la FIFA.

    El ejecutivo del Espanyol explicó que, según el criterio de su club, "se ha vulnerado el reglamento de la FIFA y por eso hemos enviado este escrito antes del partido".

    Pedro Tomás no quiso ofrecer más detalles sobre la queja elevada por su club y se remitió a los acontecimientos de los próximos días y a la respuesta de los órganos competentes.

    http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/barcelona/es/desarrollo/680711.html

    This is great lol! That will teach them to fake injuries Laugh
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:22 am

    Sorry, for those of you who dont understand it says Espanyol want tonights result to arraigned seeing as the the FIFA law states that if a players is injured and cannot play with his national team the player cannot play with his club for 5 days after the internacional match was played. ie Xavi & Puyol.

    lol!
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    Post by fcb Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:40 am

    Wow talk about sour grapes, looks like a certain Mr. Mourinho has been over to Montjuic giving them lessons in being sore losers.

    I don't care, this will die in the water as all trivial challenges brought against us do. And after all, there's many precedents for the same type of incident involving major clubs around Europe (example - Man. Utd. Laugh )
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    Post by TheCrazy58 Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:54 am

    I read there was trouble among supporters before the match too.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Aug 18, 2006 7:45 am

    kasnani wrote:I don't care, this will die in the water as all trivial challenges brought against us do.
    it will die in the water cos of the pro big 2 league and fa, but it is not a trivial challenge and if this had been the other way around they´d have thrown the book at espanyol
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    Post by TM Fri Aug 18, 2006 9:55 am

    That is correct tho', Rules are rules, the ref will probably just give Barca an extra PK, nothing for Farsa to worry about.
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:06 pm

    It's the only way they can beat us. It's a pathetic low blow but you can't expect more from barcelona based madridistas Rolling Eyes

    Even if we "lose" this game we can thrash them at the Camp Nou Biggrin
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:08 pm

    cule its not pathetic its pathetic what you did and showing such disregard to the rules. i hope they win their case and its not a whitewash case in your favour as normally happens with you and those madridistas
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:18 pm

    They knew this before the game started but didn't say until after the game - in case they lost. A low blow but you can't expect more from Espanyol.

    I hope the decision goes for them as well as our legal matters' staff fucked up big time. Then on Sunday we can destroy these closet vikingos Twisted Evil
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    Post by TM Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:32 pm

    Id rather have Farsa play the second leg, win or lose, hopefully this crazy august shedudle will catch up with them.

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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:37 pm

    i suppose cule they only knew for sure when the team sheet was handed in hardly gives them much time to complain
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:49 pm

    i hope espanyol wins the case because im tired of players faking injuri just so they dont have to play.i dont care that it is barca players,allthough it makes it better if they win.you shouldnt try to get out of internationals,as it should be something to do with pride.

    a good punishment would be to let players that fake injury not be allowed to play for 4-5 games. or next time there is internationals you wouldnt be able to play for your club team.
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:50 pm

    They knew Xavi and Puyol were gonna play (would you leave these two on the bench?!) but they kept this to themselves in case they lost. I doubt they would've appealed for "alineacion indebida" if they won the game. A very cheap move if you ask me.

    It's also shocking how barça missed/forgot/didn't know this.
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:57 pm

    Well this article says Barça have done nothing wrong:

    http://www.infoesports.es/noticies/18/08/2006/9346
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    Post by TM Fri Aug 18, 2006 1:59 pm

    Personally i think Puyol and Xavi should just be left out for the next few games, they have enough midfieders to fill in for Xavi, esp Cesc and Alonso would be a great paternship. No point awarding the title to Espanyol, and punishing the whole Barca team, for stupidity of Laporta and his henchmen and Puyol and Xavi.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:21 pm

    cule604 wrote:Well this article says Barça have done nothing wrong:

    http://www.infoesports.es/noticies/18/08/2006/9346
    your forgetting the point.it is not about politics but about the fact that players should be proud to play for the country and not try to avoid it.
    the players should be punished not the club but in a way punishing the club would help alot to the hole thing.
    but nothing will happen because the big clubs control everything and fifa and uefa are afraid that clubs will run off and make there own league.
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:24 pm

    The point of this thread is Espanyol "impugnando" the game because Xavi & Puyol (according to them) shouldn't have been allowed to play.

    And according to the link I posted Espanyol were wrong. There is another thread to discuss about Xavi & Puyol's commitment to the nationa team.
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    Post by fcb Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:08 pm

    I find that article more believable than Espanyol's argument. And I say again, look at the precedent for this case. Sure we can blame our legal team for not catching tiny details like that, and they deserve the blame, but how many clubs in the past have reported their players injured for an international, only for the player to return again at the weekend?

    If Hierro and Zidane at their peak form were in this situation, and it was only a minor injury which meant they recovered the next day and were fit to play, would you then leave them on the bench for 5 days just because the FIFA rule ambiguously says so?

    I don't think so.
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:15 pm

    Espanyol can't beat us on the pitch so they have to resort to these kind of things. More goals in the pitch and less BS outside.

    Could this be another conspiracy orchestrated from the capital to de-stabilize Barça?! Surprised
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    Post by fcb Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:19 pm

    cule604 wrote:Could this be another conspiracy orchestrated from the capital to de-stabilize Barça?! Surprised

    Yeah maybe that's why RM aren't making any signings - Calderon is too busy "orchestrating" other matters Laugh
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 18, 2006 3:21 pm

    kasnani wrote:
    cule604 wrote:Could this be another conspiracy orchestrated from the capital to de-stabilize Barça?! Surprised

    Yeah maybe that's why RM aren't making any signings - Calderon is too busy "orchestrating" other matters Laugh

    good Point. lol!
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:07 pm

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    cule604 wrote:Could this be another conspiracy orchestrated from the capital to de-stabilize Barça?! Surprised

    Yeah maybe that's why RM aren't making any signings - Calderon is too busy "orchestrating" other matters Laugh

    good Point. lol!

    I like this, its a typical Cule post. Barça break the rules and play dirty by faking two players injuries and yet somehow RM is to blame Laugh

    Hopefully this will be given the same punishment as " alineacion indebida" and Espanyol is given the game won 3-0 like the rules state. I think it will all blow over and Barça will be able to break the rules as always.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:13 pm

    THe thing is that you lot always claim that we are cheating in one way or another, conviniently forgetting that RM have a MASSIVE history of bending the rules, getting referee favours, dodgy financial deals etc etc.

    And for f**k's sake it was a friendly of no consequence which clearly showed that just about every single player on the team wasn't ready for competitive football...

    GET OVER IT
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:20 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:THe thing is that you lot always claim that we are cheating in one way or another, conviniently forgetting that RM have a MASSIVE history of bending the rules, getting referee favours, dodgy financial deals etc etc.

    And for f**k's sake it was a friendly of no consequence which clearly showed that just about every single player on the team wasn't ready for competitive football...

    GET OVER IT

    Im not the one who has to get over it, Espanyol is Wink
    There would be nothing to get over if you hadnt cheated.

    Its just funny thats all. Barça claim to have such a decent squad that i didnt think you needed to fake injuries in order to beat a small team like Espanyol, and for a crappy little cup. Maybe if it had been the CL final then ok but its only the Spanish Super cup Laugh
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    Post by golsud Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:39 pm

    Madrid aren't exactly the most honest team there is....

    But I guess it's typical from Madrid fans, blind to what their team does and always claiming to be the victim.

    PUTA MADRID I PUTA ESPANYOL!!
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Aug 18, 2006 4:44 pm

    cule604 wrote:Madrid aren't exactly the most honest team there is....

    But I guess it's typical from Madrid fans, blind to what their team does and always claiming to be the victim.

    PUTA MADRID I PUTA ESPANYOL!!

    Yeah its obivous that RM & Espanyol are to blame that Barça decided to fake Xavi & Puyol`s injuries lol!
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    Post by DeLux Fri Aug 18, 2006 5:13 pm

    When we fielded an ineligible player in the second division two seasons ago we lost the match 3-0. I somehow don't think Barca's lawyers will let that happen.
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    Post by TM Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:17 pm

    PUTA Barca!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Post by DeLux Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:21 pm

    Now, Now. Don't make me bring up the flash car a certain ref was given for favouring RM or El Caudillo sitting in the palco subtly influencing matches.
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:45 pm

    If the medics from the national team sent them home, then I really don't see what the big issue is. It is not like that they didn't turn up.

    Missing friendlies is a common thing and it was bloody Espanyol who didn't want to change the date in the first place. If De la Peña, Tamudo or García had been called up then I am sure they wouldn't have mineded a more sensible date..

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