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    Post by Batman Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:36 pm

    Manchester United remain the most valuable football team in the world, according to Forbes business magazine.

    The annual list ranks United above Real Madrid with Arsenal leapfrogging AC Milan into third spot and Chelsea in eighth position.

    Meanwhile, David Beckham has lost top spot to Ronaldinho as the world’s highest-earning footballer.

    Ten Premiership sides appear on Forbes’ list of the world’s 25 most valuable football teams followed by clubs from Italy (four), Germany (four), Spain (two), France (two), Scotland (two) and Holland (one).

    The Forbes list however says United no longer command the largest yearly revenues as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus – who all have own individual TV deals – surpassed their figure of £158m (€232m).

    Salvatore Galatioto, president of the sports banking firm Galatioto Sports Partners, said China remains the key area for future growth.

    He said: “A big reason why these teams are attracting suitors is their growth potential in all of Asia, but China is the key.

    “You have great brands with these soccer teams that have not been fully exploited.”
    Forbes say Beckham’s lucrative move to Los Angeles Galaxy at the end of the season could see the former England captain recapture his position as football’s highest earner.

    Team valuations in pounds sterling according to Forbes:
    1 Man Utd £740m
    2 Real Madrid £528m
    3 Arsenal £466m
    4 Bayern Munich £427m
    5 AC Milan £420m
    6 Juventus £289m
    7 Inter Milan £282m
    8 Chelsea £274m
    9 Barcelona £273m
    10 Schalke 04 £240m
    11 Liverpool £231m
    12 Lyon £175m
    13 Newcastle £132m
    14 Tottenham £124m
    15 Roma £114m
    16 Hamburg £112m
    17 Man City £106m
    18 B Dortmund £101m
    19 Ajax £100m
    20 Celtic £94m
    21 Everton £84m
    22 Marseille £80m
    23 West Ham £79m
    24 Rangers £75m
    25 Aston Villa £71m

    Highest-earning players, according to Forbes:
    1 Ronaldinho (Barcelona) £15.2m
    2 David Beckham (Real Madrid) £14.8m
    3 Ronaldo (AC Milan) £11.7m
    4 Wayne Rooney (Man Utd) £8.7m
    5 Michael Ballack (Chelsea) £8.7m
    6 Thierry Henry (Arsenal) £8.2m
    7 Zinedine Zidane (ex-Real Madrid) £8.2m
    8 Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid) £7.6m
    9 John Terry (Chelsea) £7.1m
    10 Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) £7.1m
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Mar 30, 2007 12:48 pm

    We're third! Yikes

    Must be the land that we own
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:32 pm

    The gulf between Man Utd and Real Madrid compared to the rest shows that they are still miles in front of the rest. It won't be for a number of years until a team catches up with them.

    Tweeds is right most of our assets are tied up in land like Highbury Square which will be ahnded over soon. We stand to make a profit from it though.
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    Post by debaser Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:54 pm

    #25 cheers
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:36 pm

    Manchester #1
    Lille >#200

    no comment
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    Post by Dick Grayson Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:22 pm

    No.1 (sniff)
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:24 pm

    This is what makes Fergie so great for me, not just the titles we've won and football we've played, the empire he has built as well.

    He see's the bigger picture.
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    Post by Batman Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:17 pm

    Marketing is an area in which Liverpool FC are very weak in. Liverpools new owerns really need to correct this quickly.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:20 pm

    We're slipping, we're slipping!!! Fat Fred must have some major dirt on SJH, why else would he still be chairman??? There's something fishy going on. ok
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    Post by Dick Grayson Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:28 pm

    Fergie to be succeeded by Keano! ok

    Always a nice feeling to be back on top of RM on these charts! Wink


    Parks lives wrote:This is what makes Fergie so great for me, not just the titles we've won and football we've played, the empire he has built as well.

    He see's the bigger picture.
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    Post by Dick Grayson Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:30 pm

    Newcy...13(!) Laugh

    Please its too funny....! and somewhat tragic!
    A city with high unemployment, crime and poverty - with a club who squeezes every pound out of its residents...immoral money!
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    Post by Roger Hunt Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:33 pm

    Don't understand what this is saying - is it value of the team (i.e. estimated transfer value of the players) or of the club (i.e. including marketing, property, etc)
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:37 pm

    Parks lives wrote:This is what makes Fergie so great for me, not just the titles we've won and football we've played, the empire he has built as well.

    He see's the bigger picture.

    Local league titles yes
    European titles, erm.... Rolling Eyes bof bof
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    Post by debaser Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:38 pm

    Roger Hunt wrote:Don't understand what this is saying - is it value of the team (i.e. estimated transfer value of the players) or of the club (i.e. including marketing, property, etc)
    i presume its how much it would cost to buy the club, e.g. villa's seems to be roughly what lerner paid for it
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:45 pm

    Napoléon wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:This is what makes Fergie so great for me, not just the titles we've won and football we've played, the empire he has built as well.

    He see's the bigger picture.

    Local league titles yes
    European titles, erm.... Rolling Eyes bof bof

    He's got 3 in his career.

    Could have 4 by the end of may as well. Wink
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:50 pm

    Parks lives wrote:
    Napoléon wrote:
    Parks lives wrote:This is what makes Fergie so great for me, not just the titles we've won and football we've played, the empire he has built as well.

    He see's the bigger picture.

    Local league titles yes
    European titles, erm.... Rolling Eyes bof bof

    He's got 3 in his career.

    Could have 4 by the end of may as well. Wink

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    Post by Dejan Savićević Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:55 pm

    #5

    Not bad, four Italian teams make the list, not bad.

    Who said Serie A suxx now. rabbit
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:59 pm

    Kaká wrote:#5

    Not bad, four Italian teams make the list, not bad.

    Who said Serie A suxx now. rabbit

    Not great though is it. There's 10 English teams in there.
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:03 pm

    ^ Aye.
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:04 pm

    Porto is not in this list.
    However they won the Uefa cup in 2003 and the CL in 2004.
    If I was Portuguese, I would be proud of this list. And if I was english, I would be a little bit ashamed.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:05 pm

    Napoléon wrote:Porto is not in this list.
    However the won the Uefa cup in 2003 and the CL in 2004.
    If I was Portuguese, I would be proud of this list. And if I was english, I would be a little bit ashamed.

    scratch Why?
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    Post by Dejan Savićević Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:05 pm

    Napoléon wrote:Porto is not in this list.
    However they won the Uefa cup in 2003 and the CL in 2004.
    If I was Portuguese, I would be proud of this list. And if I was english, I would be a little bit ashamed.

    Why?
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:06 pm

    Because money don't give titles.
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    Post by shazlx Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:08 pm

    Napoléon wrote:Porto is not in this list.
    However they won the Uefa cup in 2003 and the CL in 2004.
    If I was Portuguese, I would be proud of this list. And if I was english, I would be a little bit ashamed.

    I agree, just shows how wasteful the English clubs (especially Newcastle) have been.
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:08 pm

    Napoléon wrote:Because money don't give titles.

    It does for Chelsea, Man U, Pool, and Arsenal.
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    Post by shazlx Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:10 pm

    Kimbo wrote:
    Napoléon wrote:Because money don't give titles.

    It does for Chelsea, Man U, Pool, and Arsenal.

    But Newcastle are richer than most uefa cup teams, why have they not looked like winning this trophy.
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    Post by Napoléon Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:12 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Napoléon wrote:Because money don't give titles.

    It does for Chelsea, Man U, Pool, and Arsenal.

    But Newcastle are richer than most uefa cup teams, why have they not looked like winning this trophy.

    Same for MU in CL ? (the last century is too far now)
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    Post by Kimbo Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:12 pm

    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Napoléon wrote:Because money don't give titles.

    It does for Chelsea, Man U, Pool, and Arsenal.

    But Newcastle are richer than most uefa cup teams, why have they not looked like winning this trophy.

    Bad management, but you can't point the finger at the non-top 4 teams and say they aren't winning enough trophies. The UEFA Cup is the only major trophy they have a realistic chance of winning, despite all this wealth.
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    Post by shazlx Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:20 pm

    Napoléon wrote:
    shazlx wrote:
    Kimbo wrote:
    Napoléon wrote:Because money don't give titles.

    It does for Chelsea, Man U, Pool, and Arsenal.

    But Newcastle are richer than most uefa cup teams, why have they not looked like winning this trophy.

    Same for MU in CL ? (the last century is too far now)

    Yes, as I said, this list shows how wasteful the English clubs have been and then added how especially Newcastle were biggest wasters.

    Kimbo wrote:Bad management, but you can't point the finger at the non-top 4 teams and say they aren't winning enough trophies. The UEFA Cup is the only major trophy they have a realistic chance of winning, despite all this wealth.

    Yes, this where most of the wasting happens e.g. Cisse, Veron, Reyes, Mutu.

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