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    Post by Super Progress Wed May 09, 2007 7:53 pm

    Here is someone point at inter as one of the big players. allthough i wont rule that out the thing is im 100% sure that juve did wrong here since i have heard things that suggest just that from a juve assistant manager.
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    Looking 'Inter' Calciopoli – A Juve Fan Wants Justice

    Goal.com brings you the next instalment of the Readers View section that intends to allow readers to share their opinions and own personal view of football.

    It's been a long season for those lounging in Soccer's own personal purgatory. Many of us are still awaiting answers and justifications yet to be presented regarding perhaps the biggest soccer scandal in Italian history.

    The question on many minds now has switched from who is guilty to a salient point: was cheating even really the scandal? Goal.com reader and Juventus fan Andrea Casula digs deep into the dirt to pull up a truth that is leaving many wriggling in their seats as he examines the role of Inter and shows that it isn’t just a black-and-white issue…

    Note that this article represents the views of the reader-writer and not Goal.com's position in any way.




    It's been nearly 12 months since the first headlines hit Italy's most prominent pink sports paper regarding Juventus, Milan, Lazio, Fiorentina, Inter (yes Inter) and the "cupola" that controlled Italian soccer's top flight. We all know what happened, though some are significantly more confused than others. We all know the result as well.

    Few, however, know the why or the who behind them. It is with this in mind that I write. There is much that the public has been kept in the dark about and only through archives of articles nearly a year deep does the "cupola" finally reveal its ugly face. There are things we weren't supposed to find out, but passion and perseverance prevailed.



    It is imperative that all be brought up to speed regarding this now shameful event. First we should identify key characters and clarify their roles in "Calciopoli". I don't intend to refresh anyone's memory as to who Moggi and Galliani are because these are now household names in any household that knows football.



    Instead I'd rather identify the men behind the men – those shady denizens who wheel and deal backstage where the public aren’t welcome at all. The characters behind "Calciopoli" belong to three distinct groups, so let’s begin with a look into the extent of their mainly unseen influence.



    The first group is Telecom Italia, Italy's prominent land phone line/Internet service provider which also owns TIM, its cellular counterpart advertised by Ronaldo Fenômeno. This company is chaired by a certain Mr. Tronchetti Provera.



    Tronchetti is a lifelong Inter fan and a significant Inter shareholder. He and Telecom Italia are among Inter's most notable investors. As a matter of fact, Tronchetti's tyre company has had its name proudly displayed on Inter's jersey for decades (Pirelli).



    The second group pertains to the media. Here far too many stakeholders and writers are involved therefore it is best to group them by media affiliation. Newspapers like Corriere dello Sport, Contro Campo, Messagero, and la Gazzetta dello Sport, helped spread the "news" to the public regarding all the "facts" and hearsay that plagued last summer's scandal.



    La Gazzetta dello Sport in particular (which has been sardonically nicknamed "La Gazzetta dell'Inter" in Italy, although evidently not by many Nerazzurri fans) is actually very heavily subsidized by…the Moratti family.



    This takes us to Group three - Inter. Internzionale FC and its delegates, owned and operated by the Moratti family, have a wide network of affiliates. Their links with the Tronchetti communications dynasty and their massive investments in both print and TV media (Telenova), allowed the Morattis to orchestrate what seems like a near-political coup over the course of two years.



    How? Massimo Moratti convinced his long time investor to illegally record Telecom/TIM phone calls and hand them over to him. These recordings included people from rival delegates to referees, from Inter players to Inter delegates – over 100,000 recordings in all.



    The Inter management intended to present these recordings to investigators and start a case against their rivals. These recordings were presented to magistrates in Turin, Rome, and Naples, to no avail.



    All three magistrates responded to the recordings by indicating that no wrong doing was found and all accusations died on the vine. Moratti's contingency plan was much more sinister. The recordings were to be handed over (in pieces) to the elements of the press that Inter had an investment in.



    The result was a media frenzy which forced the FIGC to launch an investigation and suspend many of its delegates (now mostly reinstated), prompting only those not suspended (due to the fact that they were not implicated) to assume complete control of the investigation.



    This manoeuvre brought Guido Rossi into the picture. Being among the few not implicated on the recordings, Guido became the commissioner of the investigation who not only controlled the proceedings but hand picked the "jury". Guido selected his colleagues and managed to conclude a year long sport tribunal in a mere three weeks. Of course he neglected to mention while at the helm of the FIGC, that he too is a major investor in Inter FC and also a former Inter delegate who proudly sat at Massimo Moratti's side during games just seasons ago.



    The "investigation" brought forth much material. We all remember the Maseratti that was to be given as a gift for favours from Juventus (no identification number, model number, recipient, or even colour of the car was ever made evident). We remember the non-stop phone calls where no result was ever decided.



    We remember the Italian Revenue Agency (Guardia della Finanza) entering Juventus headquarters and the home of Fabio Cannavaro looking for proof of illegal fund transfers. They found nothing – of course.



    Do we all remember the phone conversations found where the late Giacinto Facchetti (then Inter General Director) requested specific referees from both Pairetto and Bergamo (referee designators)? In case some forgot, in a Sky interview Bergamo openly admitted that no delegate called him more than Facchetti.



    In fact, Facchetti even dined in Bergamo's home on a number of occasions. We also found out (by accident) that Inter falsified passports to maintain the illegal status of foreign players (never further investigated), we also found out that Inter participated in fraudulent accounting practices (also never further investigated). In the end these details were never selected by Rossi as he deemed them to be "immaterial".



    Less than a month later Inter had a Scudetto. Somehow Inter had the title two days before the investigation was over. When it was over, everyone but Inter got penalized. The most severe was Juventus' punishment. In the end the only proven fixed match was a Parma match that helped Fiorentina survive Serie A.



    Even the Viola however remained in Serie A. A few appeals took place which reduced the punishments but in the end Inter had a title and a half. Not only were they declared champions of Italy (having come in 3rd) but all potential threats were crippled first in the marketplace.



    When Fiorentina lost out on the Champions League – and 22.5 million Euros – and Milan had to forego major trades and purchases in addition to their point deductions rendering them less competitive the game was changed. Inter experienced a near market monopoly stealing Vieira and Ibra for peanuts and were the last team standing who could purchase Fabio Grosso (the agreement came as the first headlines about the scandal hit the press).



    Take "Calciopoli" away from the equation and Inter would have likely been where they always were, without Ibra, Vieira, and behind their rivals. Though they may have won, we'll never know.



    After Guido Rossi's speedy demotion of Juventus and prompt coronation of his former employers, Tronchetti decided to thank him for their sudden increase in earnings per share by appointing Guido Vice President of Telecom Italia. FIGC finally came to their senses and recognized (only too late) that there may be a conflict of interest and formally asked Guido to step down as commissioner.



    Since the verdicts (which saw Juve lose 250 million Euros in addition to their Serie B punishment) the new Juventus delegates attempted an appeal at the Lazio Regional Tribunal (TAR) but were blackmailed into dropping the appeal.



    FIGC threatened to freeze all Italian competition (including Azzurri duties) should the appeal take place. The freeze would have kept the national side from qualifying for Euro 2008. As a result Juve dropped the appeal and all seemed lost.



    One judge (who listened to one appeal after the Rossi verdict) by the name of Cesare Ruperto of the CAF declared that the 2004/2005 season was legit. Sig. Serio of the Court of Appeal also said that no match fixing outside of the Lecce-Parma match (in favour of Fiorentina) had occurred.



    He then went on to claim that the sentencing was due solely to mass media frenzy and conflict of interests. Guido Rossi himself admitted no foul play after failing to prove that Juventus, Lazio and Milan had cheated but he insisted that the teams found themselves in favorable positions and so maintained the punishments.



    The CAF under Ruperto managed to reduce the sentences (but couldn't reverse them) and added that the season was subject to no wrong doing. He insisted that no Moggi system existed and that it was the invention of a little pink newspaper (pg 74 of the CAF declaration). Ruperto went on to say that no game (aside from one assisting Fiorentina) was altered and that no system of bookings existed either, allegedly ensuring that key players were suspended prior to Juve matches (Pg 83). According to the 100-plus page declaration by the CAF, all these accusations were fabricated and exploited.



    Recently "Calciopoli 2" has hit the tabloids in Italy but has generated little steam. Basically the investigators in Naples have come forward indicating that Juventus' management used to use Foreign Service providers (Swiss SIM Cards) to conduct all the illegal conversations.



    Since the investigators couldn't possibly record Swiss calls, no incriminating conversations actually exist. The question on many minds now is, if all the "incriminating" calls took place on Swiss cards that could not be monitored then what was on the 100,000 Telecom/TIM calls that could possibly justify demotion to Serie B and the title going to another team?



    We are also curious as to how Moratti, Tronchetti, and the media could possibly get away with violating a constitutional right to privacy by illegally recording calls and then have them published. These entities could potentially be facing charges of invasion of privacy, defamation of character, fraudulent accounting, insider trading, and identity falsification.



    To add to the already overflowing pot of offences, referee De Sanctis has come forward revealing that the late Giacinto Facchetti would call him regularly prior to matches. Many of his requests apparently were not strictly illegal. Nevertheless, on more than a few occasions, according to De Sanctis' televised interview on Antenna 3, he had to refuse Giaccinto's requests because of their unsportsmanlike nature and manipulative implications.



    This has angered the Inter faithful who claim De Sanctis is accusing a deceased General Director because he can no longer defend himself. The truth is he never had to defend himself. His recorded phone conversations were discarded as evidence by Commissioner Rossi and as a result no one in the Inter camp was ever investigated. This occurred while Facchetti was very much alive. This revelation came as no shock since other referees and referee designers have coinciding stories. It is a year-old accusation backed by recorded phone calls that has mysteriously gone ignored.



    As a result many fan-based demonstrations from Turin to Naples have taken place and organizations have been created to fight on Juventus' behalf. One association in Italy called "Giu le Mani Dalla Juve" (Hands Off Juve) has finally broken through to the new FIGC management.



    The Federcalcio headed by Giancarlo Abete agreed to consider the possibility of reopening the now year-old case. His decision depends on public interest and therefore I encourage all fans who want to see actual justice served to please leave a comment in the comments box below.



    Now Juve fans who won’t stand for more are finally being heard. If this case is reopened through Giancarlo Abete Juve could regain the Scudetti they fought so hard for. In addition, all other affected teams would also benefit from financial restitution if the case is reopened. I would like to take this opportunity to remind readers that last year's punished squads produced 12 World Cup Champions, 15 World Cup Finalists, and UEFA honours for best goalkeeper, best defender, and best all-around player. Later even FIFA recognized Fabio Cannavaro as Player of the Year. All awards were attributed to their performances in Serie A as well as Germany '06.



    So, do these players sound like they need referee assistance? The answer is self-evident – no. Sceptics may still be convinced that Juventus cheated to be successful, but I urge all that all real football fans weigh up the real evidence that rarely makes the biased Italian media.



    If we are talking about doing justice we can’t stop short of our target, but this target has been warped by unbalanced information. Justice should be blind to influences, but we can see that the powers that be have chosen their scapegoats and given pardons with no real regard for an overall truth.



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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Wed May 09, 2007 8:05 pm

    Good article.. Saints and Waft will love it..

    I think it is blatantly obvious that Inter was involved as well. I refuse to believe that Moratti and co would just sit idly by while the others were attempting to cheat. Of course they also gave it a go..
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    Post by bluenine Wed May 09, 2007 8:17 pm

    Another Juve propaganda from a confessed Juve fan... there is nothing new in this article, mostly bitterness from a deluded fan... his biggest allegation against Inter is that Moratti initiated the phone tappings which led to exposure of Moggi's system... while nothing has been proven on that yet, even if that gets proven, I would really commend Moratti for exposing the cheats. If I was in his place, and was losing millions coz another team was cheating, I would investigate and expose too.

    Sure, Inter could have had a hand... but I only see the cheats who have been punished pointing a finger at Inter... mostly, that reprents a good thing. In the kind of media frensy that followed Calciopoli, if Inter had had a hand, it would have been exposed...

    I present the response from a respectable Juve fan below:

    "I have been going to Torino since 1972 to see Juve, I was at Heysel, but what has happened in recent times is what hurts me and it is as if 10 years of the most beautiful things have been taken from me - my football and my Juve.

    Sincerely, after all that I have heard, I cannot understand my dear Juventini friends who continue to look at the houses of others - Milan, Inter and Roma .... above all Inter, who in my opinion has nothing to do with any of this. (False financial statements are filed by every team all the way down to Serie C2.)

    We should be investigating instead our ex-management and seek to get the team as far away as possible from these persons. We have been cheering for a team run by delinquents. But the football I have loved is another matter.

    I hope that whomever has committed crimes will be punished severely, and then we can recommence to cheer for our Juve ... "

    - Andrea Petto
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    Bravo Andrea! This is a real fan of football.

    It is for fans like this I feel bad about what has been allowed to happen in Italy to such a beautiful game - whether it is us Nerazzurri watching the infamous Juve-Inter travesty in 1998 when #99 was so clearly fouled by Marc Iuliano or reading Andrea in pain over how his favorite team has been dirtied by the likes of Moggi.
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    Post by Super Progress Wed May 09, 2007 9:05 pm

    like blunine said he seems to be a juve fan who trie to look for evidence instead of letting it present it self. some points like faccehetti calling refs should be looked at though.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Fri May 11, 2007 1:00 pm

    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:like blunine said he seems to be a juve fan who trie to look for evidence instead of letting it present it self. some points like faccehetti calling refs should be looked at though.

    Other things that should be looked at is Herrera's reign, when Inter were "under the malign aegis of Allodi" to use Glanville's words.

    No one is innocent. Check Inter's passport scandal, for another example.
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    Post by Super Progress Fri May 11, 2007 5:25 pm

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:
    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:like blunine said he seems to be a juve fan who trie to look for evidence instead of letting it present it self. some points like faccehetti calling refs should be looked at though.

    Other things that should be looked at is Herrera's reign, when Inter were "under the malign aegis of Allodi" to use Glanville's words.

    No one is innocent. Check Inter's passport scandal, for another example.
    i have heard much about the great inter team of the past with allodi being man behind it all. also he was the mentor for moggi i believe. but the current inter side is innocent untill proven guilty. i do think inter prob did some stuff but my feeling is that it wasnt as bad as the others.
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    Post by Tarun Sun May 13, 2007 12:00 pm

    Its a brilliant & thought provoking article. Not many people anyway would ever believe that Inter is blameless. It's just that there needs to be another set of serious investigations that look at the role of Inter...& hopefully this investigation should happen without any Inter 'influence'
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    Post by bluenine Sun May 13, 2007 1:34 pm

    40 years ago is the best you got, Forza? You are only making me feel even more proud of Inter! Wink I can give you a more recent one against Milan... no, not the calciopoli, but I can recall Milan were relegated in the early 80s...

    And passport scandals / minor financial irregularities are not in the same scale as creating a system of sporting fraud!! And just coz a few clubs were guilty does NOT mean that everyone is guilty and must be a cheat as Tarun (and so many Juventini) are so wishfully implying.

    Juve fans are grasping at straws here and are playing fast and loose with legal precedents. Tell me again how a civil affair is equivalent to a criminal one? Even in Italy that is a different matter and the ramifications are different. The problem here is bascially that you Juve fans feel singled out - that somehow illecito sportivo has not been extended to Inter for falsifying a passport and for *alleged* financial chicanery.

    The issue of points gained is moot - it's like saying that a failed bank robbery is not a bank robbery. The conspiracy, the attempt of that, is a crime, regardless of the outcome. It's as if juventini are saying 'No one can prove we succeeded at cheating, only that we tried to cheat - so it
    isn't that bad!'

    At most it just means Moggi et al are in effective cheats, not innocents. It still means that the unguranteed outcome of a contest (at the heart of sport) has been damaged, if not destroyed. That is a serious matter when it comes to 'sports crime.'

    What Moggi did was FAR more serious than any alleged financial or passport transgressions.

    Moggi was somehow able to select referees for games, influence the selection of referees for other teams, have games postponed or cancelled and influence the media coverage of football in a country in which football is a secular religion. All this is FACT, Inter has NOTHING to do with it.

    When Juve fans ask 'How many points did this produce?' They are missing more than just the point, They're throwing the concept of 'sport' out the window.

    So, ultimately, a bad cheat is not an innocent one.

    There are quite a few conversations amongst the 100,000 (!) or so Moggi had on the phone in nine months that clearly outline him telling the Italian director of referees (Pairetto) who to assign as officials to certain games. This is absurd and surreal - in fact it goes beyond those words to .... criminal. The fact that Pairetto did not immediately hang up the phone and dial the authorities is a sign of just how corrupt the system is and how influential Moggi was within that corruption.

    Which brings me to another sore point of mine - how does the alleged guilt of one party affect the guilt of another? Is it a mitigating circumstance? Hmmm .... legal precedent in any country would not support that contention I fear. To suggest that Inter managed to "influence" all these investigations by so many different authorities, sporting or otherwise, is absurd. The kind of media circus that followed calciopoli, with every converstation being analysed publically, there is NO WAY Inter could have been spared if there was evidence against them.

    Juve is like the child caught stealing household funds and then squeals on the sibling who supposedly didn't mow the lawn. It doesn't reduce the crime nor does that prove that the other crime existed and is of equivalent
    seriousness.

    Regardless, the above is an argument of bitterness and reductive reasoning - if you remove enough legal precedent and process from any argument over law and (dis)order then all contentions might actually be equal!!!

    The more sensible Juve fans have put this whole scandal behind them, and are hoping for a clean management of their club in the future. That probably is the best attitude. Unlike the baseless psycho drivel some morons like Mr Andrea Casula wasting their time with... all I can say is, justice has been done, deal with it!!

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    supermadrid(zizou legend) wrote:like blunine said he seems to be a juve fan who trie to look for evidence instead of letting it present it self. some points like faccehetti calling refs should be looked at though.

    Other things that should be looked at is Herrera's reign, when Inter were "under the malign aegis of Allodi" to use Glanville's words.

    No one is innocent. Check Inter's passport scandal, for another example.
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    Post by Forza Italia!Forza Milan! Sun May 13, 2007 2:06 pm

    Your paean for Inter still doesn't detract from some cold hard facts. I agree that the article is little too pro-Juve, but some of the points are well taken.

    Bluenine, I applaud you. You have been untainted by cynicism in your love for Inter. Even I don't pretend that with Berlu and Galliani. I agree with you that Inter are obviously not as guilty as Juve, but to say they did not have their finger in the pie at all is to have a very very rosy outlook.
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    Post by Tarun Mon May 14, 2007 10:24 am

    Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Your paean for Inter still doesn't detract from some cold hard facts. I agree that the article is little too pro-Juve, but some of the points are well taken.

    Bluenine, I applaud you. You have been untainted by cynicism in your love for Inter. Even I don't pretend that with Berlu and Galliani. I agree with you that Inter are obviously not as guilty as Juve, but to say they did not have their finger in the pie at all is to have a very very rosy outlook.
    ok ok
    Bluenine, I never said that fraud never took place. Like you mentioned...all true fans accept it & are over with it. We definitely look forward to a cleaner & progressive management.
    But at the same time one cannot overlook what lies beneath the surface & the truth is that not all culprits have been caught.
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    Post by bluenine Mon May 14, 2007 11:24 am

    Innocent till proven guilty, my friend. There is nothing that suggests anything against Inter conclusively, just some vague rumours and speculation. Those can be made against any club in the world.

    What lies beneath the surface? It will come out, sooner or later. As for the rest of the culprits, the investigations haven't stopped. We will probably see some more punishments this summer. But from what I understand, these will be punishments for individuals... all guilty clubs have already been punished. I hope they don't get punished again...

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    Post by bluenine Tue May 15, 2007 9:51 pm

    The other side of the story... from a fan who has invested over $500 Million into the club in the hope to bring back the glory days of his fathers era... I can understand the pain, the feeling of being robbed and cheated... Moratti speaks, after new allegations that the current management at Juve knew all about Calciopoli and may have been involved as well:

    Moratti: I'm a miserable winner
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    Massimo Moratti believes the May 5, 2002 capitulation was part of Calciopoli. “I’ve won the Scudetto now, but I’m still not happy.”

    His team has dominated the Serie A season and shattered records, adding the 2006-07 title to the one that was handed to them by the Calciopoli trial last summer. “I was happy that afternoon in Siena when we won the Scudetto. Happy for the fans, the Coach, the people who worked with this club and the fans who were finally able to celebrate,” he noted in the ‘Corriere dello Sport’ newspaper.

    “But there is no satisfaction here. In all these years they have robbed us blind. Our hopes and dreams were taken away. This is not snubbing the title, it is a feeling of melancholy. We won, but I am not satisfied because football is very similar to how it was before, with the same faces and too many things that have not changed. Nobody found the strength to be scandalised and turn it all on its head.”

    Moratti is looking back over the 18 years that preceded this victory and taking a revisionist view of their worst moments. That includes the 2002 Scudetto thrown away on the final day with a 4-2 defeat at Lazio. “After that May 5 loss, we were in my study with a group of journalists. There was the desire to start again and make up for our mistakes.

    “We were convinced we had made the errors and that, honestly, there were other sides that had done better. But that was not the case. Football has been mutilated. With the revelations of the past few days, increasingly precise and painful, it makes you want to clam up.” Juventus won that title and the Inter President believes it was caught up in the Calciopoli scandal. This week a former Bianconeri director launched more accusations of gifts and illegal funding for referees and Federation members from Luciano Moggi and Antonio Giraudo.

    The director, Maurizio Capobianco, testified in front of investigators this evening. Juventus have said they will take legal action against their former employee, who they claim is disgruntled at his dismissal, for the allegations in ‘La Repubblica’ newspaper. “We have duties and projects. We will give 100 per cent for football and for Inter with the same strength as before, but do not ask me to smile,” continued Moratti.

    “I cannot be content while the football system remains the same. I am also tired of the controversy with Juventus. I understand the Juve fans, as they have to believe in something and find an enemy to aim their anger at, but how could those who were within the club have not noticed anything? And now, is it all shelved like magic? They speak as if all this were in the distant past.”
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    Post by Tarun Wed May 16, 2007 7:35 am

    Looks like a good counter measure from Moratti, these statements, especially in wake of recent rumors/whispers that might spill out the conspiracy that Inter seems to have orchestrated

    Hollywood...watch out
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    Post by Axeslammer Wed May 16, 2007 7:42 am

    No one is taking the Italian league serious anymore anyway...
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    Post by bluenine Wed May 16, 2007 12:54 pm

    The rumours about Inter's involvement are by Juve fans (as above), and there is no case so far.

    The "rumours" about futher Juve incolvement are documented statements by ex Juve Director, currently under investigation.

    Which one is more believable? I wonder who is reacting to whom Doh

    TarunDang wrote:Looks like a good counter measure from Moratti, these statements, especially in wake of recent rumors/whispers that might spill out the conspiracy that Inter seems to have orchestrated

    Hollywood...watch out

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