podolski a let down?

ive just read he only scored 4 goals in the league this whole past season?..is this true?...

isnt that a bit too little for someone who is..if the hype is to be believed...better than 'average players' such as rooney?

even crouch out scores him for gods sake!!!

an explantion please...

The explanation is that he's not as good as some posters ed us to believe.

Even when Rooney was 16 and had limited opportunities he still managed 7 goals in his first season.

I've been much more impressed by Schaudralf (sp)

Podolski was never in the same level as Rooney.

That said, I think the media is making too much of one bad season... when your club plays so bad, sometimes a player can have a bad season as well. Podolski is a very talented lad, and I am quite sure he will come good.

I guess one could also mention that he suffered his first grave injury this season.

But that doesn't work well with don't panic's anti-German propaganda.

He cost bayern the title, just a normal season for him

And also Bayern had Magath as manager, who supposedly doesn't like youngsters. In fact, I don't think Podolsko even played a decent amount of time till Hitzfeld came in.

kas wrote:And also Bayern had Magath as manager, who supposedly doesn't like youngsters. In fact, I don't think Podolsko even played a decent amount of time till Hitzfeld came in.

Not to mention also that he scored 10 in 19 matches for Cologne in his first Bundsliga season at the age of 18.

Minor details in the German-bashers' world.

Effenberg wrote:

Not to mention also that he scored 10 in 19 matches for Cologne in his first Bundsliga season at the age of 18.

Kezman scored loads for PSV

He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

Rez wrote:He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

I must say during Euro2004 I thought Rooney was something really special. Since then he hasn't developed as rapidly as one would have thought. Sure he has had his injuries, but the hype surrounding him was immense even by English standards.

I personally don't think he is in the top tier of young talent (Messi, C. Ronaldo). Is he better than Podolski? I haven't seen enough of Podolski to be honest, so I can't judge.

that wasnt the best year for munich and podolski

rooney played for an attacking manu, so its a lot more easier to make goals and shine

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Rez wrote:He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

I must say during Euro2004 I thought Rooney was something really special. Since then he hasn't developed as rapidly as one would have thought. Sure he has had his injuries, but the hype surrounding him was immense even by English standards.

I personally don't think he is in the top tier of young talent (Messi, C. Ronaldo). Is he better than Podolski? I haven't seen enough of Podolski to be honest, so I can't judge.

yep..rooney has had a few injuries at important times...2004 showed what he can do when on form and in a team thats playing well..his injury severely affected england chances against portugal which speaks volumes for his talent...2006 he was coming back from a long lay off and playing in a team that wasnt working..he is absolutely in the top tier...no doubt about that at all as far as im concerned..

the hype you mention is partly invented as a reason to attack the 'arrogant english'..it all stems from SGE statement after the euro04 about rooney and pele..people deliberately misquoted SGE making it sound like he was saying rooney was the next pele..as good as pele etc..which he didnt at all...still..if it makes people feel better..

Effenberg wrote:I guess one could also mention that he suffered his first grave injury this season.

But that doesn't work well with don't panic's anti-German propaganda.

?..why should that be mentioned...rooney..beckham etc all have had far worse injuries that have affected their game at big tournaments/important times.....does that stop people simply saying they are over rated?..havnt performed..havnt lived up to expectations/hype etc......?

its not propaganda...its giving people facts to balance the hype we have heard about podolski etc...

What hype? I'd say on this board it's 80-90% Podolski bashing. Just like this thread.

What's eating you anyway? Did the Germans wipe out your family or something?

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Rez wrote:He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

I must say during Euro2004 I thought Rooney was something really special. Since then he hasn't developed as rapidly as one would have thought. Sure he has had his injuries, but the hype surrounding him was immense even by English standards.

I personally don't think he is in the top tier of young talent (Messi, C. Ronaldo). Is he better than Podolski? I haven't seen enough of Podolski to be honest, so I can't judge.

I do agree to an extent.

Rooney is great when the team is playing well and he's in form. However there is a difference between that and actually making a team play well. In that he falls short of Ronaldo and Scholes for us.

Still has years though to improve that area.

Effenberg wrote:What hype? I'd say on this board it's 80-90% Podolski bashing. Just like this thread.

What's eating you anyway? Did the Germans wipe out your family or something?

have you never noticed the countless threads otto makes, purely to wind up the english? there has been hundreds....

surely one about a german player really isnt that bad

Rosicky wrote:

Effenberg wrote:What hype? I'd say on this board it's 80-90% Podolski bashing. Just like this thread.

What's eating you anyway? Did the Germans wipe out your family or something?

have you never noticed the countless threads otto makes, purely to wind up the english? there has been hundreds....

surely one about a german player really isnt that bad

Tis wind up isn't funny though...

TeamSpirit™ wrote:

Rosicky wrote:

Effenberg wrote:What hype? I'd say on this board it's 80-90% Podolski bashing. Just like this thread.

What's eating you anyway? Did the Germans wipe out your family or something?

have you never noticed the countless threads otto makes, purely to wind up the english? there has been hundreds....

surely one about a german player really isnt that bad

Tis wind up isn't funny though...

neither are Otto's anymore

You missed his Champions league one Boro. Where Milan we're going to have a running sponsor on there shirts - '1,000,000 to throw the game'.

Parks lives wrote:You missed his Champions league one Boro. Where Milan we're going to have a running sponsor on there shirts - '1,000,000 to throw the game'.

Yeah, that one was a welcome return to form...

Otto should retire.

Otto and Dont Panic! Are the same person..

Wahre story

Does WAHRE GESCHICHTE mean Protects History?

Because thats what the translation come up with on Babelfish.

Wahre Geschichte = True story

Babelfish is retarded.

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Rez wrote:He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

I must say during Euro2004 I thought Rooney was something really special. Since then he hasn't developed as rapidly as one would have thought. Sure he has had his injuries, but the hype surrounding him was immense even by English standards.

I personally don't think he is in the top tier of young talent (Messi, C. Ronaldo). Is he better than Podolski? I haven't seen enough of Podolski to be honest, so I can't judge.

Rooney is a strange one, sometimes he can be magnificent sometimes he can be awful, but I guess he is still only 21. This season has been one of his worst seasons and he still scored 23 goals and got alot of assists. However sometimes, I did wonder if he knew how to control the ball. I think when he improves his consistency and finishing he will be a great player, who scores 30 goals a season and gets about 20 assists.

I personaly think his game is more complete than Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has had an awesome season, his skill and technique are almost unrivaled, but in terms of his teamwork and vision, he is miles behind Rooney. I rate Messi very highly, but for me he hasnt done enough yet to suggest he is in a tier above Rooney. Maybe when he plays two (or even one) full seasons in a row, he will prove he is a tier above.

At the moment I would say the top tier of young talent is Rooney, Messi, Fabregas and Ronaldo. However if the likes of Robben and Robinho played for the right clubs, they would be up there as well.

Effenberg wrote:What hype? I'd say on this board it's 80-90% Podolski bashing. Just like this thread.

What's eating you anyway? Did the Germans wipe out your family or something?

hmm..so podolski hasnt been hyped by certain germans here..and now its turned out hes not so special noone can bring it up?...

Rez wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Rez wrote:He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

I must say during Euro2004 I thought Rooney was something really special. Since then he hasn't developed as rapidly as one would have thought. Sure he has had his injuries, but the hype surrounding him was immense even by English standards.

I personally don't think he is in the top tier of young talent (Messi, C. Ronaldo). Is he better than Podolski? I haven't seen enough of Podolski to be honest, so I can't judge.

Rooney is a strange one, sometimes he can be magnificent sometimes he can be awful, but I guess he is still only 21. This season has been one of his worst seasons and he still scored 23 goals and got alot of assists. However sometimes, I did wonder if he knew how to control the ball. I think when he improves his consistency and finishing he will be a great player, who scores 30 goals a season and gets about 20 assists.

I personaly think his game is more complete than Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has had an awesome season, his skill and technique are almost unrivaled, but in terms of his teamwork and vision, he is miles behind Rooney. I rate Messi very highly, but for me he hasnt done enough yet to suggest he is in a tier above Rooney. Maybe when he plays two (or even one) full seasons in a row, he will prove he is a tier above.

At the moment I would say the top tier of young talent is Rooney, Messi, Fabregas and Ronaldo. However if the likes of Robben and Robinho played for the right clubs, they would be up there as well.

Rooney is SHITE

will NEVER be world class

might not even become "international class": EVER

perfectly decent against the likes of Boro and Sheffield though

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Poldi is in for a very difficult time; Bochum want to have him on a loan now; at Bayern, with Toni and possibly even Klose joining, he will be sitting on the bench

fortunately, Makaay now seems to be on his way back to Holland

still, in terms of talent: Poldi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rooney

not that this means anything

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Fabregas, Messi, Christiano, Robben, Ribery and Co are all HOPELESSLY overrated

watch out for GOMEZ though; he's the real deal

Darling wrote:

Rez wrote:

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:

Rez wrote:He was never that good in the first place, so you cant be a let down if no one expects anything. Otto liked the idea of having a German wonderkid to rival Rooney, but it was just an idea. In practice he is more of a rival to Darren Bent, than Rooney.

He is a good player, but if you expected him to be as good as Rooney, you will be in for the biggest disappointment of your life.

I must say during Euro2004 I thought Rooney was something really special. Since then he hasn't developed as rapidly as one would have thought. Sure he has had his injuries, but the hype surrounding him was immense even by English standards.

I personally don't think he is in the top tier of young talent (Messi, C. Ronaldo). Is he better than Podolski? I haven't seen enough of Podolski to be honest, so I can't judge.

Rooney is a strange one, sometimes he can be magnificent sometimes he can be awful, but I guess he is still only 21. This season has been one of his worst seasons and he still scored 23 goals and got alot of assists. However sometimes, I did wonder if he knew how to control the ball. I think when he improves his consistency and finishing he will be a great player, who scores 30 goals a season and gets about 20 assists.

I personaly think his game is more complete than Ronaldo's. Ronaldo has had an awesome season, his skill and technique are almost unrivaled, but in terms of his teamwork and vision, he is miles behind Rooney. I rate Messi very highly, but for me he hasnt done enough yet to suggest he is in a tier above Rooney. Maybe when he plays two (or even one) full seasons in a row, he will prove he is a tier above.

At the moment I would say the top tier of young talent is Rooney, Messi, Fabregas and Ronaldo. However if the likes of Robben and Robinho played for the right clubs, they would be up there as well.

Rooney is SHITE

will NEVER be world class

might not even become "international class": EVER

perfectly decent against the likes of Boro and Sheffield though

---------------

Poldi is in for a very difficult time; Bochum want to have him on a loan now; at Bayern, with Toni and possibly even Klose joining, he will be sitting on the bench

fortunately, Makaay now seems to be on his way back to Holland

still, in terms of talent: Poldi >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rooney

not that this means anything

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Fabregas, Messi, Christiano, Robben, Ribery and Co are all HOPELESSLY overrated

watch out for GOMEZ though; he's the real deal

Otto

That was very blunt for you, I was expecting a few made up stats and some more hype and propoganda.

Anyway last time I checked; AC Milan, Roma, Chelsea,Holland, Argentina, France, Arsenal (with a German keeper) and Liverpool were all good sides.

Sorry Otto, but you made us believe Podolski was a great player, like say Rooney. However his 4 goals prove it was all a hype and that he is more Andy Johnson than Wayne Rooney.

Otto are there any good young players outside Germany? Otherwise Ferguson has wasted lots of money over the past 4 years buying supposed future world class players.

are there any good young players outside Germany

well, MANY, obviously

Messi is a good player, ditto C.Ronaldo....

it's just that they are not nearly as good, or maybe complete, not to say consistently effectively, as many on here seem to believe

Robben or van Persie at Bayern would have produced the odd moment of brilliance; they would not have strengthened the club OVERALL though

Schweini and Poldi were FAR better at the World Cup

I would take Gomez over Messi anytime, if the aim was to win league titles

many of our young German talents are struggling now as well though

all very depressing

and don't believe the Nani-Andersen hype for God's sake