Everton Ground

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A24872538

Interesting bit of comment.

I particularly liked this bit:

Everton are currently being outshone financially in the transfer market by Wigan, Sunderland, Fulham and pretty much everyone else with a shred of ambition.

Not so much in the players they have signed, but with the intent they have shown and the amount of money they appear to have.

Quite why Everton appear to be so short of cash while most other clubs seem to be drowning in it is a mystery.

Word is that boss David Moyes has a mere £6m left in his transfer pot - despite only paying out £4m for Phil Jagielka and recouping £1m of that from Sheffield United for Gary Naysmith.

Everton also received a reported £2.75m from Fulham for Simon Davies in January, so there has not been much flashing of the cash from chairman Bill Kenwright up to now.

And as rich men queue down the street to invest in Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Portsmouth and even championship clubs like Southampton, Everton currently appear the investors' version of Kryptonite.

Some images of the stadium and discussion of why Everton are moving:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/sol/newsid_6900000/newsid_6909000/6909057.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm&news=1

@ roger



Your answer is in the title of the news story - they're saving to build a new stadium...

yeah... even if they dont buy anyone they have enough talent to stay around midtable

Everton fans vote for Kirkby move
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Everton fans have voted in favour of the club's proposed move to a new stadium in Kirkby.
The club balloted more than 36,000 supporters on the move, which chief executive Keith Wyness described as "the deal of the century".

Everton vowed to abide by the outcome of the vote but 59% of the 25,761 votes returned supported the proposals.

The 50,000-seater new stadium will be financed alongside supermarket giant Tesco and the local Knowsley council.

It is part of a planned £400m redevelopment of a 32-hectare (80-acre) site.

The plans caused consternation among some Everton fans as well as Liverpool Council, who were upset at the idea of the club moving outside the Liverpool city boundaries.

However, the club argue that Goodison Park, the club's home of 115 years, is too old and impractical to expand while other suggested sites within the city were too small.

With Liverpool set to move into a new £300m stadium in Stanley Park in 2010, Everton are keen to keep up with their fierce rivals.

The new ground will be modelled on the traditional four-sided structure modelled on Cologne's World Cup stadium.

Despite the outcome of the vote, opponents of the plans have vowed to continue the fight.

Keep Everton In Our City spokesman Dave Kelly said: "The ballot has served to split the fans.

"That makes me sad as an Evertonian. There is still a long campaign ahead because public opinion in Kirkby against a football stadium is growing."

Knowsley Council are facing opposition from local residents over the prospect of a football stadium being built as part of their town centre regeneration scheme.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/e/everton/6961678.stm

Why do Everton need to move, they can just have Anfield when we move

move back to their original home luis, when they moved the first time it was actually outside the city boundaries in those days so its no big deal.

Luis wrote:Why do Everton need to move, they can just have Anfield when we move

Are we not knocking anfield down and building on it anyway ???

COTR wrote:

Luis wrote:Why do Everton need to move, they can just have Anfield when we move

Are we not knocking anfield down and building on it anyway ???

I thought it was in Stanley Park?

Luis wrote:

COTR wrote:

Luis wrote:Why do Everton need to move, they can just have Anfield when we move

Are we not knocking anfield down and building on it anyway ???

I thought it was in Stanley Park?

Yeah that's the stadium


I thought we were redeveloping anfield with houses, hotels etc

although im not really sure

COTR wrote:

Luis wrote:Why do Everton need to move, they can just have Anfield when we move

Are we not knocking anfield down and building on it anyway ???

I would have thought there are even more pressing reasons why Everton wouldn't play their home games at Anfield...

Roger Hunterrific wrote:

COTR wrote:

Luis wrote:Why do Everton need to move, they can just have Anfield when we move

Are we not knocking anfield down and building on it anyway ???

I would have thought there are even more pressing reasons why Everton wouldn't play their home games at Anfield...

Well obviously, it was only a joke from luis after all


Anfield will surely be knocked down though

COTR wrote:
Well obviously, it was only a joke from luis after all

You give him too much credit.

Anfield will surely be knocked down though

Sure. Shame it's being replaced by some sort of gigantic greenhouse with three quarters of a stadium attached...

Roger Hunterrific wrote:

COTR wrote:
Well obviously, it was only a joke from luis after all

You give him too much credit.

Anfield will surely be knocked down though

Sure. Shame it's being replaced by some sort of gigantic greenhouse with three quarters of a stadium attached...

Well its not like you have any reason to be visiting anytime soon Saints

And i doubt very much the 18,000 hardcore fans in the Kop will think its a shame when the ball smashes into the net.

Nevertheless nice try Saints, you can enjoy your 'safe' template stadium at St Marys

Football Genius wrote:
Well its not like you have any reason to be visiting anytime soon Saints

I dunno, throwing popcorn at Luis is a reason...

And i doubt very much the 18,000 hardcore fans in the Kop will think its a shame when the ball smashes into the net.

Possibly not.

Nevertheless nice try Saints, you can enjoy your 'safe' template stadiumq at St Marys

So the Liverpool stadium doesn't matter as long as the ball hits the net, but the Saints stadium matters regardless of balls hitting nets?

I wish you'd stop talking bullshit. In fact, ignore the 'bullshit'...

I love your agenda against me Saints, it makes you seem so big and honourable..

Luis wrote:I love your agenda against me Saints, it makes you seem so big and honourable..

One joke about throwing popcorn constitutes an agenda these days does it?


Why don't you go and talk to your school counsellor about it? Get yourself some validation and liberal apologetics...

[quote="Roger Hunterrific"]

COTR wrote:
Well obviously, it was only a joke from luis after all

You give him too much credit.

I dunno, throwing popcorn at Luis is a reason...

2 jibes in one thread

One of those was a jibe at Cotter though, not at you.


No court in the land would convict me of harassing you Luis, so kindly get back in your cradle and masturbate furiously until you're mature enough to handle yourself publicwise...

[quote="Luis"]

Roger Hunterrific wrote:

COTR wrote:
Well obviously, it was only a joke from luis after all

You give him too much credit.

I dunno, throwing popcorn at Luis is a reason...

2 jibes in one thread

add in the two quotes saints has dedicated in his sig to you and you may just have a case


although saying that, saints has a agenda against anyone who challenges anything he says so it's no big deal

you're so tiresome Saints, you really are

COTR wrote:
add in the two quotes saints has dedicated in his sig to you and you may just have a case

A case?

Is there cause for reasonable doubt, for example, are there other threads on which the plaintiff has behaved even worse than the defendant? Is there some doubt as to the motives of the defendant in behaving the way he does?

Like I said, no court in the land...

although saying that, saints has a agenda against anyone who challenges anything he says so it's no big deal

Bullshit do I have an agenda against people. I have an agenda against ideas, attitudes, behaviour. But not specific people.

Roger Hunterrific wrote:

COTR wrote:
add in the two quotes saints has dedicated in his sig to you and you may just have a case

A case?

Is there cause for reasonable doubt, for example, are there other threads on which the plaintiff has behaved even worse than the defendant? Is there some doubt as to the motives of the defendant in behaving the way he does?

Like I said, no court in the land...

although saying that, saints has a agenda against anyone who challenges anything he says so it's no big deal

Bullshit do I have an agenda against people. I have an agenda against ideas, attitudes, behaviour. But not specific people.

with nutwing as our prosecuting consuel what could possibly go wrong

Roger Hunterrific wrote:

Football Genius wrote:
Well its not like you have any reason to be visiting anytime soon Saints

I dunno, throwing popcorn at Luis is a reason...

And i doubt very much the 18,000 hardcore fans in the Kop will think its a shame when the ball smashes into the net.

Possibly not.

Nevertheless nice try Saints, you can enjoy your 'safe' template stadiumq at St Marys

So the Liverpool stadium doesn't matter as long as the ball hits the net, but the Saints stadium matters regardless of balls hitting nets?

I wish you'd stop talking bullshit. In fact, ignore the 'bullshit'...

Actually my reference was to the 18,000 fans watching the ball hit the back of the net, not the fact that it 'only' hits the back of the net

The only spin / bullshit was your come back

Roger Hunt wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A24872538

Interesting bit of comment.

I particularly liked this bit:

Everton are currently being outshone financially in the transfer market by Wigan, Sunderland, Fulham and pretty much everyone else with a shred of ambition.

Not so much in the players they have signed, but with the intent they have shown and the amount of money they appear to have.

Quite why Everton appear to be so short of cash while most other clubs seem to be drowning in it is a mystery.

Word is that boss David Moyes has a mere £6m left in his transfer pot - despite only paying out £4m for Phil Jagielka and recouping £1m of that from Sheffield United for Gary Naysmith.

Everton also received a reported £2.75m from Fulham for Simon Davies in January, so there has not been much flashing of the cash from chairman Bill Kenwright up to now.

And as rich men queue down the street to invest in Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Portsmouth and even championship clubs like Southampton, Everton currently appear the investors' version of Kryptonite.

Who looks the fool now?

side note -has the fernandes deal gone through yet? not sure if i missed it, or if it's still in progress

debaser wrote:side note -has the fernandes deal gone through yet? not sure if i missed it, or if it's still in progress

Not entirely sure. Think its still in progress

Football Genius wrote:
Actually my reference was to the 18,000 fans watching the ball hit the back of the net, not the fact that it 'only' hits the back of the net

So it doesn't matter what the stadium looks like, because you have 18,000 fans? Still not getting why you think this is a better argument than sniggering about Saints' stadium...

The only spin / bullshit was your come back

Nice attempt at beating an argument via labelling. You should be a tabloid sports journo...

Roger Hunterrific wrote:

Football Genius wrote:
Actually my reference was to the 18,000 fans watching the ball hit the back of the net, not the fact that it 'only' hits the back of the net

So it doesn't matter what the stadium looks like, because you have 18,000 fans? Still not getting why you think this is a better argument than sniggering about Saints' stadium...

The only spin / bullshit was your come back

Nice attempt at beating an argument via labelling. You should be a tabloid sports journo...

Yes the Atmosphere is far more significant than how the stadium looks, and for the record im impressed with how the 'new Anfield' looks.

18,000 fans in ONE stand behind the goal.... the atmosphere will be electric, with a further 40,000 - 45,000 in the remaining 3 stands.

Tabloid Journo?

That was a complement FG, I'd print it off and frame it