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Turkish Super League

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Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:35 am

i want to inform you 'bout turkish super league by this topic.

as an intro; i want to present you about teams of tsl.

there are three important teams in istanbul. fenerbahce, besiktas and galatasaray. these are rival teams but the biggest rivality is fenerbahce vs. galatasaray.

fb has 17, gs has 16 and besiktas has 10 titles in turkish super league. we call them "three bigs".

there are only 4 teams took the title in super league history. fourth team's name is trabzon. it's a seaboard city in blacksea which is north of country.

other important teams of the league are kayseri, bursa, genclerbirligi and gaziantep. They randomly can be in title challenge.

other teams are; sivas, istanbul municipality(istanbul), kasimpasa(istanbul), ankaragucu(ankara), ankaraspor(ankara), manisa, denizli, oftas(ankara), rize and konya.

if you have questions i can answer.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Jaime Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:57 am

Welcome to the board; we don't have any (that I know of) posters who know the Turkish league so this is good.

Question -- how is Roberto Carlos doing in Turkey?

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:14 am

he is magnificient. he plays as he is 20 years old young player. he scored 1 goal in 5 weeks. it's third heading goal in his career. there are lots of brasilian player in fenerbahce's team squad and rc is a big idol for them. so they are trying to make the best performance with him. left back position was one of the biggest problem in fenerbahce before rc signed to fb contract.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Jaime Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:26 am

He scored with his head?!?!?!?!?!?! Glad he is playing well for you. Maybe he needed a change of scenery and some new challenges to revive him because he was a liability for us much of the last three years.

Congrats on beating Inter, that is a very big 3 points for you if Fenerbahce are going to qualify for the 1/8 finals of the CL.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:47 am

thx.

it's good to be in first 3 in group stage for us. but if we can make the same play again, we would be in 1/8 finals. i trust zico's tactical knowledge.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by fcb Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:49 am

What do you think of Besiktas' chances against Liverpool, Marseille, and Porto? Probably very tough for them to qualify.

Also, you must be happy that Galatasaray lost in the UEFA Cup today!

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:03 am

besiktas made a new team and they don't have a big european experience. first match against marseiller is very bad start for them because they will fight for second place with marseiller. they cannot do anything against Liverpool. Liverpool can win 4 or 6 points from besiktas. so hard days are waiting for besiktas in CL.

and yes. sion made a good surprise for us.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Sgoater1 Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:50 am

Welcome to the board mate, yeah Besiktas were unlucky cos Faty should have been sent off for Marseille for that stamp.

How has Kezman been doing for you since he signed ?

With Lincoln and Nonda signing for Galatasary do you consider them a bigger threat to your title than last year?

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Re: Turkish Super League

by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:54 am

RC looked v spritely in the highlights i saw of the ECL game

Kezman is sh¡te, cannot believe he'll be any better there than he was for chavski or us

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Ricardo Jol Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:00 am

Welcome mate, its good to know you can inform us about the Turkish league. not many of us are known with this league.

Congrats with the victory of Fenerbahçe on Inter!

Hope you'll lose against PSV though... Smile

Smile

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:49 am

Kezman shows his worst performance in his career. we are thinking that if he is really Batman or an imitation.

Lincoln is very good signing for galatasaray but we have Alex in the same position who scored over 60 goals for four years. Nonda seems very good for first 2 matches but we have to see that if he can make the same performance continously.

Thanks for congrats about our Inter victory. I hope we can take 2 points from PSV. Inter's challange is very important for group table.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by gone Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:53 am

Welcome and well done against Inter.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Isco Benny Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:11 pm

republicoffenerbahce wrote:i want to inform you 'bout turkish super league by this topic.

as an intro; i want to present you about teams of tsl.

there are three important teams in istanbul. fenerbahce, besiktas and galatasaray. these are rival teams but the biggest rivality is fenerbahce vs. galatasaray.

fb has 17, gs has 16 and besiktas has 10 titles in turkish super league. we call them "three bigs".

there are only 4 teams took the title in super league history. fourth team's name is trabzon. it's a seaboard city in blacksea which is north of country.

other important teams of the league are kayseri, bursa, genclerbirligi and gaziantep. They randomly can be in title challenge.

other teams are; sivas, istanbul municipality(istanbul), kasimpasa(istanbul), ankaragucu(ankara), ankaraspor(ankara), manisa, denizli, oftas(ankara), rize and konya.

if you have questions i can answer.

Welcome fella.

I want to ask you about the Turkish National Side.

What happened???

1996 - euro 96, Turkey seem to be on the up.

2002 - Turkey are now one of the best sides in the World, play some great stuff, unlucky versus Brazil.

Then between 2002 and to date, its been a slow slide downwards.

I sincerely believed post 2002 that Turkey would be a heavyweight of World Football- big football mad population, but so far its not happened.

can you tell me why? Is the future bright for Turkish football? I remember your u17s /21s sides not so long ago being strong. Will we see Turkey a permanent fixture in future International competitions?

Over to you <Ale>

<Ale>

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Pierre Littbarski Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:40 pm

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:1996 - euro 96, Turkey seem to be on the up.

scratch

They were fucking hopeless and lost all 3 games without scoring.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Football Genius Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:43 pm

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:1996 - euro 96, Turkey seem to be on the up.

They were fucking hopeless and lost all 3 games without scoring.

Laugh

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Fey Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:04 pm

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:1996 - euro 96, Turkey seem to be on the up.

:scratch:

They were fucking hopeless and lost all 3 games without scoring.

I think he means euro2000.

Allthough Turkey will be the ONLY Asian country to ever make a chance to win a World Cup...

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:08 pm

Turkish Youth Teams are not in a systematic education and training program. So the generations fix the success. Team of 96 and 02 are both in the same line. But now our squad has changed too much.

The other problem is the structure of Turkish Football Federation. Board of Federation has some mafiatic and political relationships and Fatih Terim is the most important actor of this ugly relationships.

So it's hard to say good or bad about the future of Turkish national football. Who cares it? Club teams are more important than national team from my point of view.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Isco Benny Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:11 pm

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:1996 - euro 96, Turkey seem to be on the up.

They were fucking hopeless and lost all 3 games without scoring.

But they qualified is the point I was making. That was the first time they had done so in their history.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Pierre Littbarski Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:31 pm

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Handsome Prince Of Saxony wrote:1996 - euro 96, Turkey seem to be on the up.

They were fucking hopeless and lost all 3 games without scoring.

But they qualified is the point I was making. That was the first time they had done so in their history.

Fair point.

They only lost 1-0, 1-0 and 3-0 as well and it wasn't that long before that we stuck 8 past them away from home so on the the up but $h!t.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Isco Benny Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:35 pm

Exactly. Its weird to think there was a time when England were tonking Turkey 8-0, I think it was in late 80's wasnt it?

So over such a short period of time, to then come 3rd at WC2002, I sincerely thought they were going to become another superpower of football.

Seems, at the moment, that it might be the same story as what happened with Croatia circa 96-98 : a generation of talented players all churned out at the same time.

Croatia look to be rediscovering themselves. Surely its only a matter of time before the turks do too? Or was it really just a flash in the pan?

I liked them immensely in 2002- they were probably the most entertaining team at that WC. I'll never forget that fella flicking the ball over Cafu's (?) head in the Brazil group stage game; such pieces of skill were pretty rare that year

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Re: Turkish Super League

by forza_rossi Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:14 pm

Hassan sas??

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Dejan Savićević Fri Sep 21, 2007 10:44 pm

I like the look of the Fener stadium. They played very well against Inter, I was surprised.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:22 pm

hasas sas is playing for galatasaray. but he is not one of the top stars of turkey for a long time. he dribbles with ball too much and is out of teamwork.

tuncay took his place in national team.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by EMP Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:52 pm

Belated welcome to the board. How is Fatih Terim thought of Turkey? Was he the right choice as national team manager?

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:14 am

He is right choise because his relationship with Turkish Football Federation board is very well. So he can manage his board and there is no problem between them.

If you ask it about football mentality. There is no extra action that comes from Fatih Terim.

His ethical mentality is not acceptable for limits of sports and fair play. But these are must for a National Team Coach.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Sun Sep 23, 2007 1:33 am

This is Sukru Saracoglu Stadium of Fenerbahce.

http://www.kaliteliresimler.com/data/media/174/stad.jpg

http://www.istanbul2009.com/istanbul%202009%20uefa%20final.jpg

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img111/9938/hakanfrimg000028ct.jpg

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Re: Turkish Super League

by EMP Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:41 am

republicoffenerbahce wrote:He is right choise because his relationship with Turkish Football Federation board is very well. So he can manage his board and there is no problem between them.

If you ask it about football mentality. There is no extra action that comes from Fatih Terim.

His ethical mentality is not acceptable for limits of sports and fair play. But these are must for a National Team Coach.

If not Terim, who would you suggest has the relevant qualities? Do you think that Terim has the quality of players required to make an impression? Is he leaving out better qualified talent in favour of his favourites or has he just run out of ideas?

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Re: Turkish Super League

by republicoffenerbahce Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:55 am

While he was getting big success with Galatasaray, he was only focused on football. But now his focus is on managerial materials and his managing power on people.

I suggest an experienced coach who is not coming from Turkish Football.

Essence of Turkish Football is made by Sepp Piontek before 1992. We need a coach like him.

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Re: Turkish Super League

by EMP Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:08 pm

republicoffenerbahce wrote:While he was getting big success with Galatasaray, he was only focused on football. But now his focus is on managerial materials and his managing power on people.

I suggest an experienced coach who is not coming from Turkish Football.

Essence of Turkish Football is made by Sepp Piontek before 1992. We need a coach like him.

Do you have any coaches in mind? How long before a Turkish coach is ready and who do you think that should be?

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Re: Turkish Super League

by Tweesus Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:42 pm

republicoffenerbahce wrote:This is Sukru Saracoglu Stadium of Fenerbahce.

http://www.kaliteliresimler.com/data/media/174/stad.jpg

http://www.istanbul2009.com/istanbul%202009%20uefa%20final.jpg

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/img111/9938/hakanfrimg000028ct.jpg

I like how steep the stands are. Do you know the capacity?

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