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DeLux

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Post n°271

Re: La Roja

by DeLux Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:11 pm

Desgraciats wrote:I really don't get Guïza.. he has never done anything of note and all of sudden he seems like one of the most lethal strikers on earth

Last night he managed to stress the Peru defence much more in 15 minutes than Torres managed at all..

People are forgetting that he did well at Ciudad de Murcia before he was moved to Getafe. IMO he should definitely start as given we'll be playing with the jugones we'll have tonnes of posession, but we need someone who will get on those crosses - something which neither Torres nor Villa offer.

re Joaquin
I think an a big target-man in the Urzaiz/Dani/Llorente mould would have been a more important addition to the squad. I can see us conceding a cheap goal in the knock-outs and trying to pass the ball into the net.

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Post n°272

Re: La Roja

by Hem fet un mal partit Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:24 pm

Olé wrote:

Desgraciats wrote:I really don't get Guïza.. he has never done anything of note and all of sudden he seems like one of the most lethal strikers on earth

Last night he managed to stress the Peru defence much more in 15 minutes than Torres managed at all..

People are forgetting that he did well at Ciudad de Murcia before he was moved to Getafe. IMO he should definitely start as given we'll be playing with the jugones we'll have tonnes of posession, but we need someone who will get on those crosses - something which neither Torres nor Villa offer.

re Joaquin
I think an a big target-man in the Urzaiz/Alfonso/Llorente mould would have been a more important addition to the squad. I can see us conceding a cheap goal in the knock-outs and trying to pass the ball into the net.

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Post n°273

Re: La Roja

by fcb Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:14 pm

I agree with Ole, I remember Guiza was on course for a possible Pichichi in that season with Getafe, except they were of course a bit of a defensive team under Schuster (that's the time Guiza was there, right?) and towards the late stages of the season Guiza never played because of some fallout.

I guess he's one of those Inzaghi types - won't dazzle you with skills or technique, but scores bucketloads by good positioning and good finishing.

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Post n°274

Re: La Roja

by Puro Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:54 pm

What's the problem with Torres? Why does he struggle so much against defenders with 100+ IQ? We were missing three starting defenders in Vargas, Acasiete, Guizasola, but their subs are horrible in comparison. And yet they managed to decipher every one of Torres' moves and runs. He wasn't fooling them, outpacing them at all. Nothing, Nada, Zilch, Zero!

I'm a little concerned about Spain with the Euro just around the corner. We were missing our very best players SIX of them, and this was basically a team that only had three days of practices. We NEED the return of Farfan, Vargas, Pizarro, Acasiete, Zambrano, Guizasola, Hinostroza, Perez, and Lobaton to the team in order to beat Colombia and Uruguay in two weeks.

I was shocked to see how Torres was stopped by Peru's subs, although I already knew that any defender with the most basic defensive skills can have Torres in his pockets. That's why Torres didn't do shite in La Liga. He had lots of hype there, but some of us know better. Biggrin

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Post n°275

Re: La Roja

by Super Progress Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:57 pm

After last night there is no question that Guiza should play. even if he doesnt have the best tecnique or whatever he has provides an arial and physical threat that none of the other strikers do. Carzola also impressed me. allthough i like Iniesta perhaps it wouldnt be bad to use Carzola in his place because unlike Iniesta he balances it out more in his style instead of constantly cutting in and letting Ramos take the flank.

Yo Puro what was up with the Peru players last night? they seemed hell bent on getting at least one spain player injuried, Inca Warriors eh? Very Happy

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Post n°276

Re: La Roja

by Puro Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:13 pm

Super Madrid wrote:After last night there is no question that Guiza should play. even if he doesnt have the best tecnique or whatever he has provides an arial and physical threat that none of the other strikers do. Carzola also impressed me. allthough i like Iniesta perhaps it wouldnt be bad to use Carzola in his place because unlike Iniesta he balances it out more in his style instead of constantly cutting in and letting Ramos take the flank.

Yo Puro what was up with the Peru players last night? they seemed hell bent on getting at least one spain player injuried, Inca Warriors eh?

Guiza caused more problems the few minutes he played than Torres. Cazorla did fine, but so did Iniesta. I think Aragones will stick with Iniesta, but who knows. Yep, some of them were a little too rough on the Spanish for my liking as well. Were they trying to kick the shite out of them for the stolen Inca Gold? lol!

I'm glad Capdevila scored the winner at the death. We were just AWFUL, I know we were missing KEY PLAYERS, but a draw would've motivated the Peruvian media to write a lot of shite, a lot of hype. We know better. <Ale>

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Post n°277

Re: La Roja

by Calidad Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:49 pm

Playing USA today. Looks like Albiol will start alongside Puyol, while Iniesta is out with an illness

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Post n°278

Re: La Roja

by golsud Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:03 pm

Puro wrote:

Olé wrote:Yo Puro!

Are you ready for the big match?

I'm looking forward to seeing La Roja annihilate the Incan Warriors - again.

There won't be any Huaylas, Chachapoyas, Jaujas providing tremendous support to the Spanish, so I won't be surprised if the Inca Warriors are victorious in Spain. Final score, España 1-2 Perú

You heard it here first!

So what happened? Did Huaylas,Chachawhatever get into your side?

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Post n°279

Re: La Roja

by Puro Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:20 pm

golsud wrote:
So what happened? Did Huaylas,Chachawhatever get into your side?

No, Huaylas chieftain Farfan, Chachapoyas leader Acasiete, Jaujas captain Pizarro, and Pachacamac rebel Mendoza were not allowed to do battle in Spain. Biggrin

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Post n°280

Re: La Roja

by Isco Benny Wed Jun 04, 2008 4:43 pm

Yo Puro,

any ideas as to why Peru and USA are so Cr@p?

Cheers mate Ale

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Post n°281

Re: La Roja

by Puro Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm

Senor Woody wrote:Yo Puro,

any ideas as to why Peru and USA are so Cr@p?

Cheers mate

Perú's problems are well documented, EVERYONE knows "the problem", but the culprits don't want to leave the FPF no matter what. I think some of those fuckos will get killed sooner or later. Here's hoping we lose to Colombia in two weeks! Biggrin

Now "soccer" in the USA is a young sport trying to find its niche. I am surprised the USA has done relatively well internationally considering the sport is the 5th most popular in the country. The future is bright, very bright! Your man Beckham is helping lots here with the kids. <Ale>

Why are England so shite? all the money in the world, the fans, the stadia? No Euro wins let alone a WC trophy. At least we have TWO Copa América trophies. Biggrin

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Post n°282

Re: La Roja

by DS Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:07 pm

1966.
Cantona was born.

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Post n°283

Re: La Roja

by Puro Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:09 pm

DS wrote:1966.
Cantona was born.

WC 1966.

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Post n°284

Re: La Roja

by golsud Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:23 pm

England >>>>> Peru+USA

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Post n°285

Re: La Roja

by Cesc Soler Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:19 pm

Spain XI: Casillas; Sergio Ramos, Puyol, Marchena, Capdevila; Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Cazorla, Cesc, Silva; Torres.

USA XI: Howard; Onyewu, DeMerit, Bocanegra, Pearce; Adu, Bradley, Beasley, Lewis; Dempsey, Johnson

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Post n°286

Re: La Roja

by Calidad Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:24 pm

Villa picked up a knock, may miss the first group game. Iniesta just has flu or something.

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Post n°287

Re: La Roja

by SuperMario Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:30 pm

who would be dropped if they play?

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Post n°288

Re: La Roja

by Calidad Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:34 pm

Don Leo wrote:who would be dropped if they play?

Cazorla.

As for Villa, it would be Fabregas. But that's only if Aragones goes 4-4-2.

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Post n°289

Re: La Roja

by SuperMario Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:08 pm

Muchos Gracias!

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Post n°290

Re: La Roja

by blutgraetsche Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:47 pm

Watching the match. Spain lack penetration™, and don't look very robust at the back against rather toothless Americans.

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Post n°291

Re: La Roja

by Calidad Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:49 pm

blutgraetsche wrote:Watching the match. Spain lack penetration™, and don't look very robust at the back against rather toothless Americans.

They're playing Cr@p

its games like these that are demonstrative of Spain's lack of width. Aragones should have taken Joaquin

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Post n°292

Re: La Roja

by golsud Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:57 pm

I'm going to watch the second half to fall asleep <Ale>

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Post n°293

Re: La Roja

by SuperMario Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:59 pm

¿usted tiene una hora? says Don Leo

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