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    Post by Cesc Soler Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:06 pm

    I think it will end up longer than four weeks, its still only 24 hours since that injury occured. A lot can happen still. Fingers crossed that it is only 4 weeks. Taking into account past injuries at Arsenal I think this one could be 6 weeks or more.

    It looked very painful, we should be thankful that it is not a cruciate knee ligament injury.
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    Post by SuperMario Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:09 pm

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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:26 am

    Team news:

    Wenger has said that he will stick with Almunia in goal for tomorrows game with Bolton.

    Gallas and Rosicky are back in the squad after layoffs.
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    Post by The Vermonster Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:49 am

    Cesc wrote:Team news:

    Wenger has said that he will stick with Almunia in goal for tomorrows game with Bolton.

    Gallas and Rosicky are back in the squad after layoffs.

    So does that mean Mad Jens will be off in Jan?
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:50 am

    very likely. I hope not though.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:50 am

    ok

    So,

    -------------Almunia-------------

    Sagna---Touré--Gallas--Clichy

    Hleb-Fabregas--Flamini--Rosicky

    -------Eduardo--Adebayor-------

    Its a pretty good squad, although I'd be tempted to give Lehmann a chance
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    Post by Sheffield gunner Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:51 am

    Cesc wrote:Team news:

    Wenger has said that he will stick with Almunia in goal for tomorrows game with Bolton.

    Gallas and Rosicky are back in the squad after layoffs.

    Brave decision, I think I would have gone for Lehmann. He is not going to be happy if he is stuck on the bench. I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to leave in January if this continues for much longer.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:53 am

    If Lehmann leaves, we really need ti bring a keeper in though. Almunia is nowhere near a top class keeper and Fabianski is very much an unknown quantity
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    Post by The Vermonster Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:56 am

    The obvious question is who do we buy in Jan who is NOT cup tied.

    The Russian Mafiosi is not going to let Afinkeev come to us. There are a few Italian options but I am not totally sure of them.

    What I wouldnt mind given that we reportedly have 70m in bank is to go after Gordon. 12m should do the trick, given that he will jump at the opportunity to come to us.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:58 am

    I See RedNWhite wrote:The obvious question is who do we buy in Jan who is NOT cup tied.

    The Russian Mafiosi is not going to let Afinkeev come to us. There are a few Italian options but I am not totally sure of them.

    What I wouldnt mind given that we reportedly have 70m in bank is to go after Gordon. 12m should do the trick, given that he will jump at the opportunity to come to us.

    Well, with Abramovich severing his links with CSKA, there's a possiblity. The guy is out with a long term injury at the moment though and I'm not sure when he'll be back. I'm a big fan of Gordon but can't see Sunderland letting him go for just £3m more than what they paid for him, especially if they're involved in a relegation dogfight
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:59 am

    Why would they sell Gordon for £12 million, when they paid £9 million in the summer? scratch

    There'd be f*cked if they sold Gordon as well.
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    Post by The Vermonster Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:10 am

    Parks lives wrote:Why would they sell Gordon for £12 million, when they paid £9 million in the summer? scratch

    There'd be f*cked if they sold Gordon as well.

    True, they will be fucked if they sold Gordon.

    But I am hoping for two things.

    One the lure of regular Champions League football means that Gordon himself will push for the transfer.

    Second by Jan end, Sunderland's position is likely to be clear. If they are in comfortable mid-table position (hard chance though) they might be willing to sell. With that money they can surely get a decent enough replacement.

    If they are done and out like Derby, then also they might be willing to let go of Gordon.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:11 am

    The next four games after tomorrow should determine whether Lehmann stays or not. If he doesn't feature over those games then I think he will be getting in contact with his agent and be seriously considering a move back to Germany.

    I wonder if Gilberto will win his place back in the team over the next few games.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:12 am

    Forget Gordon for the meantime. The only way that will ever happen is if Sunderland get relegated and need a chunk of money to get back up next season.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:18 am

    Cesc wrote:The next four games after tomorrow should determine whether Lehmann stays or not. If he doesn't feature over those games then I think he will be getting in contact with his agent and be seriously considering a move back to Germany.

    I wonder if Gilberto will win his place back in the team over the next few games.

    If Flamini carries on the way he has, no. And there's also Diarra to consider in all this as well. The future doesn't look too bright for both Gilberto and Lehmann to be honest. Depending on how this season goes, there could be a couple of players (those two) leaving in the summer
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    Post by The Vermonster Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:19 am

    The problem is that Almunia is a disaster waiting to happen. Thankfully he has been OK, but then he hasn't really been tested yet. Kolo has saved his a*se couple of times.

    Mad Jen's experience is likely to be critical from Jan onwards, when we will be fighting on multiple fronts.

    If he leaves we need an good replacement for sure.

    As regards Gilberto. I have this feeling that this might be his last season at the club Sad.

    Juve are interested in him, and if they qualify for CL next season which is very likely then I am sure they will make a bid and offer him a 2-3 year contract. In summer he will have only one year left in his contract, so he might be amenable to a move.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:22 am

    Don't get me wrong, if Lehmann leaves in January, we will sign a keeper. It just won't be Gordon.

    I'm not sure what the situation is at City, but Isaksson is a realistic option. Amelia is another name th throw in there, who isn't cup tied and would be relatively inexpensive. Then of course, there's someone like Carson...
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:22 am

    Lehmann is a certainty. Gilberto I would rate as 50/50. He has been linked with moves to Juventus and Valencia over the past few weeks. With 12 months left on his contract this coming Summer and £5m touted as a possible offer, he may well leave.

    Two experienced heads though, I think that would make Gallas the oldest player at an age of 30/31.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:25 am

    Cesc wrote:Lehmann is a certainty. Gilberto I would rate as 50/50. He has been linked with moves to Juventus and Valencia over the past few weeks. With 12 months left on his contract this coming Summer and £5m touted as a possible offer, he may well leave.

    Two experienced heads though, I think that would make Gallas the oldest player at an age of 30/31.

    It would hugely reduce our average squad age.

    Thing is, by next summer we'll have about £70m for a transfer budget, but what the hell do we spend it all on if any?

    We may need a keeper, which could cost up to £20m, but knowing Wenger will cost £1m and a bag of balls. Aside from that, is there anywhere that needs urgent treatment? We don't want to hamper the opportunities for our upcoming youngters. It may be worth siloing the money for stadium expansion.
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    Post by The Vermonster Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:33 am

    Tweedle wrote:
    Cesc wrote:Lehmann is a certainty. Gilberto I would rate as 50/50. He has been linked with moves to Juventus and Valencia over the past few weeks. With 12 months left on his contract this coming Summer and £5m touted as a possible offer, he may well leave.

    Two experienced heads though, I think that would make Gallas the oldest player at an age of 30/31.

    It would hugely reduce our average squad age.

    Thing is, by next summer we'll have about £70m for a transfer budget, but what the hell do we spend it all on if any?

    We may need a keeper, which could cost up to £20m, but knowing Wenger will cost £1m and a bag of balls. Aside from that, is there anywhere that needs urgent treatment? We don't want to hamper the opportunities for our upcoming youngters. It may be worth siloing the money for stadium expansion.

    We need a proper winger for one. Ideal one would be someone who can left footed and can operate on both flanks and has an eye for the goal.

    Hleb though has had a great season so far, but for some reason I am always reminded by his failures from last two seasons. So even if he leaves I won't be surprised (Assuming we get a winger).
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    Post by SuperMario Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:37 am

    Hleb is no winger. In fact we have no out and out wingers at all. We just have players who can play as a winger.


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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:37 am

    I See RedNWhite wrote:
    We need a proper winger for one. Ideal one would be someone who can left footed and can operate on both flanks and has an eye for the goal.


    Quaresma, or alternatively Rosina. We were linked heavily to Rosina throughout the summer. He's started the season well again, but he plays for Torino, who are a bit like the Fulham of Serie A - they play reasonably attractive football and have some half decent players, but a shite defence and as a result finish in an around the relegation zone.

    Ask Bluenine about Rosina though. He reckons he'll be an Italy regular is a season or two ok

    Hleb though has had a great season so far, but for some reason I am always reminded by his failures from last two seasons. So even if he leaves I won't be surprised (Assuming we get a winger).

    He'll stay. He started very well for us when he first moved here but then was blighted by injuries and wasn't really the same. He seems to have discovered his old form though so fair play to him Ale
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:40 am

    Surely you must see why Wenger doesn't use conventional wingers? So that he can get the best out of Fabregas.

    If you played conventional wingers he'd have to play alot more defensively.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:44 am

    Parks lives wrote:Surely you must see why Wenger doesn't use conventional wingers? So that he can get the best out of Fabregas.

    If you played conventional wingers he'd have to play alot more defensively.

    Well, by not playing wingers, it means that our forwards can drop out wide and our wingers can then cut into the box.

    RVP, Adebayor and Eduardo are all mobile players that are happy to run the channels.

    We also have two very attacking full backs, which add the width to our squad.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:45 am

    Yeah, the full backs provide you with a lot of width.

    Rosicky can do what you mentioned anyway, he's just never fit.
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    Post by The-Frank-Tavern Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:05 pm

    Parks lives wrote:Surely you must see why Wenger doesn't use conventional wingers? So that he can get the best out of Fabregas.

    If you played conventional wingers he'd have to play alot more defensively.
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:56 pm

    jonathan de guzman wrote:Hleb is no winger. In fact we have no out and out wingers at all. We just have players who can play as a winger.

    we should use hleb where France is currently using Ribery ie behind the front 2 with 3 other midfielders behind him.
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    Post by Cesc Soler Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:27 pm

    The absence of Robin van Persie means Eduardo will have the opportunity to stake a claim for a permanent place in the Arsenal line-up — starting on Saturday against Bolton.

    The Croatian has been relatively quiet since signing from Dinamo Zagreb in the summer. He has two goals in seven appearances but has been struck down with a niggling groin injury in recent weeks.

    It is ironic therefore that Van Persie’s knee problem — which is now expected to keep him out for four to six weeks - could open the door for the 24-year-old.

    “Eduardo, it could be time for him,” said Wenger at Friday’s press conference. “He has started very well.”

    In other team news for the weekend, William Gallas will start for the first time since August 19. Gilberto will be among the substitutes after the long trip back from Brazil’s World Cup qualifier against Columbia. The fit-again Tomas Rosicky may join him there.

    “Gilberto travelled last night so he will be on the bench,” said Wenger. “Tomas could be back on the bench too but I will decide that tomorrow.

    “Gallas will start because he started with his national team. Senderos is out with a back injury.

    “I feel Robin van Persie will be out for four to six weeks. I count six so hopefully I will not be disappointed.”

    As revealed by Arsenal.com on Thursday, Manuel Almunia will retain his place. The fit-again Jens Lehmann will not be involved at all.

    “He can go on the bench,” said the manager. “But for tomorrow I have decided to leave him out completely.”
    http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=483101&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+This+could+be+Eduardo%27s+time+to+shine
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:23 pm

    'Underrated' Denilson signs new contract

    By Richard Clarke

    Arsène Wenger believes Denilson is underrated.

    The Arsenal manager is highly-delighted to have secured the 19-year-old Brazilian midfielder on a new long-term deal with the Club. For Wenger, it demonstrates the giant strides he has made since signing from Sao Paulo on transfer-deadline day last August.

    “I am pleased, very pleased,” he said. “Denilson is a great player. For me, he is underrated. He does not get all the praise his performances suggest but that will come very quickly.

    “He is the youngest player of our squad along with Armand Traore. He has played big games but he has shown he can cope with the pressure and produce quality performances. I expect him to make a big impact.”

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    don't know if this has been posted yet...

    Good news!
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    Post by Effenberg Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:46 pm

    According to a German sports website Lehmann is not even in the squad for your next match, i.e. he's now your third choice keeper.

    I really rate Wenger, but this is more than an insult.

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