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Injury Proneness

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Injury Proneness

by Tweesus Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:56 pm

Rate the players at your club in terms of injury proneness.

1= very injury prone.
10= not at all injury prone.

Was just thinking to myself how important a factor it is to a clubs success.

Arsenal:

Almunia: 8
Touré: 9
Gallas: 5
Sagna: 7
Clichy: 5
Cesc: 9
Rosicky: 1
Hleb: 7
Flamini: 7
RVP: 1
Adebayor: 9
Eduardo: 7
Bendtner: 6
Gilberto: 8
Eboué: 5
Senderos: 6
Djourou: 6
Lehmann: 5
Walcott: 6
Denilson: 5
Diaby: 4

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Re: Injury Proneness

by S4P Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:06 pm

Cech 7
Ivanovic N/A
A Cole 8
Makelele 7
Essien 7
Carvalho 5
Shevchenko 3
Lampard 4
Sidwell 8
J Cole 6
Drogba 6
Mikel 9
Ballack 2
Pizarro 8
Sinclair N/A
Bridge 4
Ferreira 5
Kalou 7
Ben Haim 7
Cudicini 4
SWP 7
Terry 2
Sahar N/A
Alex 8
Belletti 9
Hilario 8
Anelka 6

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Re: Injury Proneness

by forza_rossi Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:06 pm

Saha -100
G Neville -90

Ronaldo 10

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Balls Grayson Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:08 pm

Tweedle wrote:
Eboué: 5
Senderos: 6
Djourou: 6
Lehmann: 5
Walcott: 6
Denilson: 5
Diaby: 4

how much thought did you put into this? Be honest.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Tweesus Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:11 pm

Hidden User wrote:

Tweedle wrote:
Eboué: 5
Senderos: 6
Djourou: 6
Lehmann: 5
Walcott: 6
Denilson: 5
Diaby: 4

how much thought did you put into this? Be honest.

More than the amount than you put into thinking what to get your right hand for a valentines present.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by The Pröfessör Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:13 pm

Diaby - 1.5

he's always injured.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Luis Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:22 pm

Reina -10
Finnan -7
Carra - 9
Agger- 4
Hyypia - 9
Skrtel - (cant really do it so far but he is currently injured so 7)
Aurellio - 2
Arbeloa - 6
Pennant - 6
Gerrard - 8
Alonso - 5
Masch - 8
Kewell - 0
Benayoun - 9
Babel - 8
Kuyt - 7
Torres - 6
Crouch - 6
Voronin - 4

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Di Caniooooo! Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:35 pm

The Entire West Ham squad- 1, what was the count at one point? 11 first team players out injured?

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Luis Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:36 pm

Mark Noble wrote:The Entire West Ham squad- 1, what was the count at one point? 11 first team players out injured?

Why are you asking yourself a question?

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Di Caniooooo! Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:37 pm

Luis wrote:

Mark Noble wrote:The Entire West Ham squad- 1, what was the count at one point? 11 first team players out injured?

Why are you asking yourself a question?

I like having conversations with myself. I was actually asking for confirmation about the count of injured players.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Football Genius Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:38 pm

I take it by Kimbo's non post this signifys his response Ale

Ale

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Re: Injury Proneness

by debaser Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:38 pm

berger, laursen and carew are all pretty bad, but i can't think of anyone else whose particularly prone to injury, which is partly fortune and partly the virtue of having a pretty young team.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Balls Grayson Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:46 pm

debaser wrote:berger, laursen and carew are all pretty bad, but i can't think of anyone else whose particularly prone to injury, which is partly fortune and partly the virtue of having a pretty young team.

who would you say is the prettiest?

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Re: Injury Proneness

by debaser Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:05 pm

Hidden User wrote:

debaser wrote:berger, laursen and carew are all pretty bad, but i can't think of anyone else whose particularly prone to injury, which is partly fortune and partly the virtue of having a pretty young team.

who would you say is the prettiest?

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Re: Injury Proneness

by debaser Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:07 pm

or possibly

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Kimbo Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:11 pm

Shay Given - 3 (ever since the Harewood incident he's been picking up injuries and has had erratic form, before that he had been playing every game of every season, bad news)
Harper - 9
Beye - 10
Faye - 8
Taylor - 8
Cacapa - 8
Enrique - 4
Carr - 2
Emre - 4
Duff - 1
Milner - 10
Geremi - 7
Barton - 7
N'Zogbia - 10
Smith - 7
Butt - 6
Owen - 1
Martins - 10
Ameobi - 3
Viduka - 2

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Football Genius Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:15 pm

Martins and the Zog 10?

They are hardly invincible... or do you disagree?

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Kimbo Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:17 pm

Football Genius wrote:Martins and the Zog 10?

They are hardly invincible... or do you disagree?

I only remember Zog having 1 injury, he is fit for nearly every game. Same goes for Martins, i only recall 2 games that he has missed through injury - one from a dead leg when he first arrived and 1 since the ACN which i think was more to do with rest.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Football Genius Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:21 pm

Kimbo wrote:

Football Genius wrote:Martins and the Zog 10?

They are hardly invincible... or do you disagree?

I only remember Zog having 1 injury, he is fit for nearly every game. Same goes for Martins, i only recall 2 games that he has missed through injury - one from a dead leg when he first arrived and 1 since the ACN which i think was more to do with rest.

I'm far too lazy to attempt to find statistics that would contradict your claims, so i'm more than happy to agree with you

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Jaime Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:18 am

Here are the worst for us...everyone else is 7 or above probably.

Pepe: 0
Heinze: 1
Metzelder: 0
Robben: - 1

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Re: Injury Proneness

by 110% Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:10 am

S4P wrote:Cech 7
Ivanovic N/A
A Cole 8
Makelele 7
Essien 7
Carvalho 5
Shevchenko 3
Lampard 4
Sidwell 8
J Cole 6
Drogba 6
Mikel 9
Ballack 2
Pizarro 8
Sinclair N/A
Bridge 4
Ferreira 5
Kalou 7
Ben Haim 7
Cudicini 4
SWP 7
Terry 2
Sahar N/A
Alex 8
Belletti 9
Hilario 8
Anelka 6

hasn't lampard got the record for most games in a row in the EPl or something? he's been injured recently but before that he hardly ever got injured

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Allez les rouges Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:28 am

Is it just me who finds these lists somewhat distasteful? I know there are some people whose bodies are particularly "un-resilient", "made of glass", whatever, and that that is a fact, however inappropriate it may be to deride footballers whose injuries have ended their careers prematurely (Deisler, van Basten, Ronaldo now????, whoever).

But to talk as if you can make league tables (Lampard with his record of consecutive games versus his current situation being a case in point) of proneness to something that is to a great extent about bad luck and the extreme pressures that top-level professional sport can put on the body, well, I don't know...

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Tweesus Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:03 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:Is it just me who finds these lists somewhat distasteful? I know there are some people whose bodies are particularly "un-resilient", "made of glass", whatever, and that that is a fact, however inappropriate it may be to deride footballers whose injuries have ended their careers prematurely (Deisler, van Basten, Ronaldo now????, whoever).

But to talk as if you can make league tables (Lampard with his record of consecutive games versus his current situation being a case in point) of proneness to something that is to a great extent about bad luck and the extreme pressures that top-level professional sport can put on the body, well, I don't know...

Distasteful? How exactly?

Its a factor of a team that isn't usually taken into account and that needs to be taken into account really to get a true reflection of a teams ability.

Its hardly distasteful.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Deluded F*ck™ Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:06 pm

King & Woodgate... Whistle

Whistle

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Re: Injury Proneness

by fcb Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:29 pm

Age and workload is a big factor - a few months ago Kaka would have got a 9 or 10, now he's probably a 6 or 7. Same for Ronaldinho, he played every game. Now he doesn't play any game.

C. Ronaldo will go the same way, mark my words. It's just the way football is. Players' careers are also going to end sooner, because they are starting so early now.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Football Genius Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:33 pm

Careers are being prolonged due to advances in medical treatments, and awareness has been brought to the game about eating and drinking the right stuff, which helps prolong a players career.

Best example - Milan.

Just because a player turns professional does not mean that they were not playing equal amounts of football whilst as a teenager in the youth teams, so i don't accept the comment about being bled into the team earlier.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by fcb Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:37 pm

Football Genius wrote:Careers are being prolonged due to advances in medical treatments, and awareness has been brought to the game about eating and drinking the right stuff, which helps prolong a players career.

Best example - Milan.

Just because a player turns professional does not mean that they were not playing equal amounts of football whilst as a teenager in the youth teams, so i don't accept the comment about being bled into the team earlier.

That is a fair point, and perhaps it compensates somewhat for the increased workload.

But for the 2nd point about youth team players, there's so much more football at youth levels too - World Cups, Reserve leagues, all kinds of competitions. And by coming into a first team earlier it's not just physical considerations, but also the extra mental pressure and requirement to deliver immediately that these kids have to deal with. Which is one reason why I really respect how Italy protects its youngsters...but that may be changing now with all this hype about Paloschi, Balotelli, Pato, etc.

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Luis Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:44 pm

Allez les rouges wrote:Is it just me who finds these lists somewhat distasteful? I know there are some people whose bodies are particularly "un-resilient", "made of glass", whatever, and that that is a fact, however inappropriate it may be to deride footballers whose injuries have ended their careers prematurely (Deisler, van Basten, Ronaldo now????, whoever).

But to talk as if you can make league tables (Lampard with his record of consecutive games versus his current situation being a case in point) of proneness to something that is to a great extent about bad luck and the extreme pressures that top-level professional sport can put on the body, well, I don't know...

If there was a leage table, Kewell would be champion by a good 40 points

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Parks lives Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:47 pm

Erm, Saha!?!

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Re: Injury Proneness

by Luis Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:47 pm

Kewell beats Saha

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