Jong Oranje - Young Boys

Attacking lineup by Foppe


Fullbacks seem to be our weakest players...


Aanvalluhhhhhhhhh !

Holland U21 v Switzerland U21

line-up Holland :

---------------Velthuizen-----------
Zuiverloon Marcellis Donk Pieters
----------------Luijckx--------------
------De Guzman------Bruins------
Beerens-----Amrabat-----Drenthe

Good cross by Drenthe, De Guz should have scored that.

Drenthe really is 2 classes better than anyone else on the pitch

If there would have been no Olympics I'm sure he would have gone to the EC.

Amrabat will lose his place for sure in the Olympic starting team, Donk probably too.

Who else ?

he's MOTM the 1st 10 mins. Don't think he's better than some others on the pitch though.

Who is on the subs bench for Jong Oranje?

Axeslammer wrote:Amrabat will lose his place for sure in the Olympic starting team, Donk probably too.

Who else ?

Maybe no-one else. I don't like a Makaay-Sibon partnership. Otherwise 1 of the attacking mids, taking De Haan Heerenveen biass into account it will not be Beerens, so De Guz or Bruins.

Markus wrote:Who is on the subs bench for Jong Oranje?

Vermeer, Jong-a-Ping (sp?), Brama, S De Jong, Bakx, Emnes, Lens

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:Amrabat will lose his place for sure in the Olympic starting team, Donk probably too.

Who else ?

Maybe no-one else. I don't like a Makaay-Sibon partnership. Otherwise 1 of the attacking mids, taking De Haan Heerenveen biass into account it will not be Beerens, so De Guz or Bruins.

I was thinking the same (not playting both Sibon & Makaay)

We still have Bakkal & Aissati IIRC...

I don't like our back four bar Marcellis.

I'd play Hiariej for Zuiverloon and Jong-a-Pin or maybe Janmaat for Pieters.

It's obvious we're missing an out and out striker / finisher in this team (Amrabat is playing completely out of position) : Makaay is gonna do so much damage in Beijing

Haven't got a clue who're the best fullbacks. Only see most of them 2 matches a season. As usual I don't rate the/a Dutch defence. Having said that they conceded zero goals in 5 qualifiers so far. Problem will be is that the opposition at the Olympics will be much stronger.

Axeslammer wrote:It's obvious we're missing an out and out striker / finisher in this team (Amrabat is playing completely out of position) : Makaay is gonna do so much damage in Beijing

We should build (the attacking part of) our team around Makaay, i.e. play De Guz & Bruins, who know his running lines & when & how he wants the ball passed to him.

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:It's obvious we're missing an out and out striker / finisher in this team (Amrabat is playing completely out of position) : Makaay is gonna do so much damage in Beijing

We should build (the attacking part of) our team around Makaay, i.e. play De Guz & Bruins, who know his running lines & when & how he wants the ball passed to him.

Would only be important if we're gonna switch to 4-4-2 instead of 4-3-3.

Bruins & De Guzman are too much alike for my taste, I'd replace one by Aissati.

Don Leo wrote:he's MOTM the 1st 10 mins. Don't think he's better than some others on the pitch though.

Seems like I jinxed him

Axeslammer wrote:

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:It's obvious we're missing an out and out striker / finisher in this team (Amrabat is playing completely out of position) : Makaay is gonna do so much damage in Beijing

We should build (the attacking part of) our team around Makaay, i.e. play De Guz & Bruins, who know his running lines & when & how he wants the ball passed to him.

Would only be important if we're gonna switch to 4-4-2 instead of 4-3-3.

Bruins & De Guzman are too much alike for my taste, I'd replace one by Aissati.

Beg to differ. The LM & RM are the players closest to Makaay in 4-3-3 midfield pointing forward.

Let Aissati play (witdrawn) right winger in stead of Beerens (will not happen)

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Shite first half. Hope the Dutch goalie isn't too tired

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:It's obvious we're missing an out and out striker / finisher in this team (Amrabat is playing completely out of position) : Makaay is gonna do so much damage in Beijing

We should build (the attacking part of) our team around Makaay, i.e. play De Guz & Bruins, who know his running lines & when & how he wants the ball passed to him.

Would only be important if we're gonna switch to 4-4-2 instead of 4-3-3.

Bruins & De Guzman are too much alike for my taste, I'd replace one by Aissati.

Beg to differ. The LM & RM are the players closest to Makaay in 4-3-3 midfield pointing forward.

Let Aissati play (witdrawn) right winger in stead of Beerens (will not happen)

Most passes should be coming from Drenthe & Beerens reaching the backline.


Whatever happened to Vormer btw, shouldn't he also be in this team (and Geert Arend Roorda) ?

Axeslammer wrote:

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

Don Leo wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:It's obvious we're missing an out and out striker / finisher in this team (Amrabat is playing completely out of position) : Makaay is gonna do so much damage in Beijing

We should build (the attacking part of) our team around Makaay, i.e. play De Guz & Bruins, who know his running lines & when & how he wants the ball passed to him.

Would only be important if we're gonna switch to 4-4-2 instead of 4-3-3.

Bruins & De Guzman are too much alike for my taste, I'd replace one by Aissati.

Beg to differ. The LM & RM are the players closest to Makaay in 4-3-3 midfield pointing forward.

Let Aissati play (witdrawn) right winger in stead of Beerens (will not happen)

Most passes should be coming from Drenthe & Beerens reaching the backline.


Whatever happened to Vormer btw, shouldn't he also be in this team (and Geert Arend Roorda) ?

Dunno about them.

Makaay is most dangerous with his lateral runs. That will lead to most chances if he's played in exactly right. The wingers will reach the 'backline' only a few times a match. The other passes (when he making those angled lateral runs) are far more important.

Like the pundits are predicting : Lens for Amrabat seems to be a logical substitution.

Don't think Lens is a 4-3-3 CF though. Despite that: bring him on.

Don Leo wrote:Don't think Lens is a 4-3-3 CF though. Despite that: bring him on.

We don't have a 4-3-3 striker (not a 4-4-2 one either), Lens is probably the closest thing we've got.

I'd like Foppe to try out this team once :

Sibon is too slow & lacks agility to play ACM. Sibon should either be pinchhitter (that's what I want) or CF

Cool, was hoping for a Swiss goal; our boys need a kick under their ass.

Don Leo wrote:Cool, was hoping for a Swiss goal; our boys need a kick under their ass.

For some reason this happens way too often to us.

First time the Swiss take a shot at goal : goal

About time for a wakeup call though


Pieters cam flying by for the first tackle, who were the two defenders after that who only looked at the Swiss player : Zuiverloon & Donk ?

(whoever they are : they should be subbed)

Dunno, missed the goal

Stupied commentator, it wasn't Bruins fault he lost the ball, it was because nobody made himself available. The entire left was wide open. Where was Drenthe? behind Bruins....

Extremely poor showing by Oranje.

Got no one to blame besides ourselves : congrats to the Swiss


Of our starters only Marcellis and Veldhuizen did not play below average...

Werk aan de winkel, Foppe !!!

Was so bad, I stopped watching. Somehow I think we'll be playing with boys v men at the Olympics.

Was van der Wiel selected for the Olympic team? How is the Dutch Beckenbauer doing anyway?