Euro 2008 - Group B thread

Team - P W D L GF GA Pts
Austria - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Croatia - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Germany - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Poland - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Sunday 8 June 2008
18:00 - Austria vs. Croatia - Vienna
20:45 - Germany vs. Poland - Klagenfurt

Thursday 12 June 2008
18:00 - Croatia vs. Germany - Klagenfurt
20:45 - Austria vs. Poland - Vienna

Monday 16 June 2008
20:45 - Poland vs. Croatia - Klagenfurt
20:45 - Austria vs. Germany - Vienna


Mods pls sticky this.

B is in Boring ?

Germany:

Goalkeepers: Jens Lehmann (Arsenal), Robert Enke (Hanover 96), Rene Adler (Bayer Leverkusen)

Defenders: Christoph Metzelder (Real Madrid), Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen), Philipp Lahm (Bayern Munich), Arne Friedrich (Hertha Berlin), Marcell Jansen (Bayern Munich), Clemens Fritz (Werder Bremen), Heiko Westermann (Schalke 04)

Midfielders: Michael Ballack (Chelsea), Thomas Hitzlsperger (VfB Stuttgart), Simon Rolfes (Bayer Leverkusen), Torsten Frings (Werder Bremen), Bastian Schweinsteiger (Bayern Munich), Piotr Trochowski (Hamburg SV), Tim Borowski (Werder Bremen), David Odonkor (Real Betis)

Forwards: Miroslav Klose (Bayern Munich), Lukas Podolski (Bayern Munich), Mario Gomez (VfB Stuttgart), Kevin Kuranyi (Schalke 04), Oliver Neuville (Borussia Moenchengladbach)

Croatia:

Goalkeepers: Stipe Pletikosa (Spartak Moscow), Vedran Runje (RC Lens), Mario Galinovic (Panathinaikos)

Defenders: Vedran Corluka (Manchester City), Dario Simic (AC Milan), Robert Kovac (Borussia Dortmund), Josip Simunic (Hertha Berlin), Dario Knezevic (Livorno), Hrvoje Vejic (Tom Tomsk)

Midfielders: Danijel Pranjic (Heerenveen), Darijo Srna (Shakhtar Donetsk), Niko Kovac (Salzburg), Luka Modric (Tottenham), Niko Kranjcar (Portsmouth), Jerko Leko (Monaco), Ivan Rakitic (Schalke 04), Ognjen Vukojevic (Dinamo Zagreb), Nikola Pokrivac (Monaco)

Forwards: Mladen Petric (Borussia Dortmund), Ivica Olic (Hamburg SV), Ivan Klasnic (Werder Bremen), Igor Budan (Parma), Nikola Kalinic (Hajduk Split)

Poland:

Goalkeepers: Artur Boruc (Celtic), Lukasz Fabianski (Arsenal), Tomasz Kuszczak (Manchester United)

Defenders: Jacek Bak (Austria Vienna), Mariusz Jop (FC Moscow), Pawel Golanski (Steaua Bucharest), Adam Kokoszka (Wisła Krakow), Marcin Wasilewski (Anderlecht), Jakub Wawrzyniak (Legia Warsaw), Michal Zewlakow (Olympiacos)

Midfielders: Jakub Blaszczykowski (Borussia Dortmund), Dariusz Dudka (Wisła Krakow), Lukasz Gargula (GKS Belchatow), Roger Guereirro (Legia Warsaw), Jacek Krzynowek (VfL Wolfsburg), Mariusz Lewandowski (Shakhtar Donetsk), Rafal Murawski (Lech Poznan), Michal Pazdan (Gornik Zabrze)

Forwards: Wojciech Lobodzinski (Wisla Krakow), Marek Saganowski (Southampton), Ebi Smolarek (Racing Santander), Maciej Zurawski (PAE Larissa), Tomasz Zahorski (Gornik Zabrze)

Austria:

Goalkeepers: Alexander Manninger (AC Siena), Jürgen Macho (AEK Athens), Ramazan Özcan (1899 Hoffenheim)

Defenders: Martin Stranzl (Spartak Moscow), Emanuel Pogatetz (Middlesbrough), Markus Katzer (Rapid Vienna), György Garics (Napoli), Sebastian Prödl (Sturm Graz), Ronald Gercaliu (Austria Vienna), Martin Hiden (Austria Kaernten), Jürgen Patocka (Rapid Vienna), Joachim Standfest (Austria Vienna)

Midfielders: Christian Fuchs (SV Mattersburg), Rene Aufhauser (RB Salzburg), Christoph Leitgeb (RB Salzburg), Ivica Vastic (LASK Linz), Andreas Ivanschitz (Panathinaikos), Jürgen Säumel (Sturm Graz), Ümit Korkmaz (Rapid Vienna)

Forwards:: Martin Harnik (Werder Bremen), Roland Linz (Braga), Roman Kienast (Ham-Kam Hamar), Erwin Hoffer (Rapid Vienna)

neuville wtf!!!!!

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:neuville wtf!!!!!

Frank,International coaches have their favorite players

EMPortuguese wrote:

The-Frank-Tavern wrote:neuville wtf!!!!!

Frank,International coaches have their favorite players

yeah but he must be about 400 ffs, even I could have picked 3 or 4 better bets than neuville (who now i've said this will score a last minute winner as sub v somebody)

It was either Neuville or Helmes. Ballack wanted him to be in the squad, because of his experience. Don't think he'll play much anyway, so it doesn't really make a difference.

Odonkor instead of Marin was the more controversial decision, check out the Mannschaft thread.

i'd have had both Marin and Odonkor (i seem to recall Odonkor's pluses being discussed before and i concur)

Odonkor is a useful player, the ideal super-sub, no doubt. But if had to choose between him and Marin, I'd prefer Marin.

Trochwoski had a good match yesterday, that probably cemented his place in the final squad.

Not nominating Jones made sense.

blutgraetsche wrote:Odonkor is a useful player, the ideal super-sub, no doubt. But if had to choose between him and Marin, I'd prefer Marin.

Trochwoski had a good match yesterday, that probably cemented his place in the final squad.

Not nominating Jones made sense.

Why is his first touch so horrible?

Jones you mean? No, but he simply doesn't fit into the system Löw intends to play. He is a 'pure' DM, and we play a 4-4-2 with two central midfielders in the centre, who have both defensive duties, but need to drive the team forward also.

Jones would be useful if we intended to experiment with the system during the tournament, which we most likely won't.

Surely then it would be wise to be flexible and have a pure DM if the situation required

We prefer versatile players, makes sense to me. Frings or Rolfes can be a 'pure' DM if necessary, but I really don't think it will.

So Leo finally announced the squad. Bronowicki, Matusiak and Majewski are the last three rejects.

Pay closer attention to our midfield:

Roger Guereirro

No doubt typically Polish name

Axeslammer wrote:B is in Boring ?

Nope B is in Braveheart

VEDRAN CORLUCA IS A LEGEND !

AND MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK !

Germany---2 0 1 5 3 +2 6
Poland ---- 2 0 1 4 5 -1 6
Croatia-----1 1 1 4 3 +1 4
Austria-----0 1 2 3 7 -4 1

Sunday 8 June 2008
18:00 - Austria vs. Croatia - Vienna 1-1
20:45 - Germany vs. Poland - Klagenfurt 1-2

Thursday 12 June 2008
18:00 - Croatia vs. Germany - Klagenfurt 0-2
20:45 - Austria vs. Poland - Vienna 1-2

Monday 16 June 2008
20:45 - Poland vs. Croatia - Klagenfurt 0-3
20:45 - Austria vs. Germany - Vienna 1-4

The writings on the wall really, how anyone can disagree with that I have no idea.

I don't see Austria getting a point.

if Germany win their first two and qualify, you could see them not taking the Austia game too seriously..

I'd say Austria will probably get a win in one game, just because they're the hosts, and the hosts pretty much always perform a bit better than expected

debaser wrote:if Germany win their first two and qualify, you could see them not taking the Austia game too seriously..

I'd say Austria will probably get a win in one game, just because they're the hosts, and the hosts pretty much always perform a bit better than expected

Austrians don't seem to be that interested in football though (read that somewhere), so the crowd may not be particularly inspiring.

Z wrote:
Austrians don't seem to be that interested in football though (read that somewhere), so the crowd may not be particularly inspiring.

Not true, especially not against us (hate us, see us as their rival). Their national team has just been Cr@p for decades now, that explains the low expectations. Football is still by far the #1 sport in Austria.

blutgraetsche wrote:

Z wrote:
Austrians don't seem to be that interested in football though (read that somewhere), so the crowd may not be particularly inspiring.

Not true, especially not against us (hate us, see us as their rival). Their national team has just been Cr@p for decades now, that explains the low expectations. Football is still by far the #1 sport in Austria.

no, skiing is far bigger, austria is the biggest ski nation in the world

blutgraetsche wrote:

Z wrote:
Austrians don't seem to be that interested in football though (read that somewhere), so the crowd may not be particularly inspiring.

Not true, especially not against us (hate us, see us as their rival). Their national team has just been Cr@p for decades now, that explains the low expectations. Football is still by far the #1 sport in Austria.

How come. According to the wizz Otto Austria is basicly Germany.

What? I don't think that otto actually believes that. When it comes to football (but not just football), Austria absolutely hates Germany. Their greatest moment in football history was beating Germany in the 1978 WC, most of the players of that team are now legends there, and important people in Austria's football microcosm (league, media, etc.).

That's probably their biggest problem also, they basically define themselves over 'big brother' in the north. They rather see us fail, than win anything themselves.

Historicus wrote:I don't see Austria getting a point.

Thats what they said about Latvia in 2004

EMPortuguese wrote:

Historicus wrote:I don't see Austria getting a point.

Thats what they said about Latvia in 2004

Whatever happened to Maris Verpakskovkis (or whatever he was called) ?

Looked it up : Māris Verpakovskis and he's playing for Hajduk Split.

I'm surprised he never made the big time, looked like a huge talent....