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Euro 2008 - Group C thread

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Post n°1

Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by fcb Wed May 28, 2008 12:12 pm

Team - P W D L GF GA Pts
France - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Italy - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Netherlands - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
Romania - 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Monday 9 June 2008
18:00 - Romania vs. France - Zurich
20:45 - Netherlands vs. Italy - Berne

Friday 13 June 2008
18:00 - Italy vs. Romania - Zurich
20:45 - Netherlands vs. France - Berne

Tuesday 17 June 2008
20:45 - Netherlands vs. Romania - Berne
20:45 - France vs. Italy - Zurich

Mods pls sticky this.

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Post n°2

Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Z Wed May 28, 2008 12:17 pm

Hopefully looking at at least two top class games in this group. Would be great for the neutral if all teams still had a chance of progressing in the final matches.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Glenarch of the Glen Wed May 28, 2008 12:41 pm

exciting looking group, Romania are no mugs especially if Chievu and Mutu are on form. Their performances will decide the group and it could even be decided on goal fifference/goals scored.

Oooh!!

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by AcciDrenthe Wed May 28, 2008 12:49 pm

Very happy we, the Dutch, don't start against Romania. A draw or worse against the team with the least supposed individual talent could really negatively affect the team. I could see France drawing with them and already having an uphill battle after the first game.

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Post n°5

Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Machiavel Wed May 28, 2008 1:00 pm

Not sure about Romania, but the other 3 teams coaches are under pressure, Van Basten the least out of the other 2 (Donadoni & Domenech) as he will leave after the Euros ..

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by A & K Wed May 28, 2008 1:40 pm

I think Italy will definitively go through, after anything can happen. Still think France or Holland will finish second an Romania not far.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by debaser Wed May 28, 2008 2:46 pm

I think Italy will go out. Just think that after winning the world cup, they may not be so focused on this one - and with a tough group like that, that'll cost them.

France + Holland, I reckon.

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Post n°8

Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Axeslammer Wed May 28, 2008 2:48 pm

C as in (too) Close (to) Call ?

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by EM Seleção e Selecção Wed May 28, 2008 3:45 pm

Goalkeepers: Gregory Coupet (Lyon), Sebastien Frey (Fiorentina/ITA), Steve Mandanda (Marseille)

Defenders: Eric Abidal (Barcelona/ESP), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ENG), William Gallas (Arsenal/ENG), Willy Sagnol (Bayern Munich/GER), Lilian Thuram (Barcelona/ESP), Francois Clerc (Lyon), Sebastien Squillaci (Lyon), Jean-Alain Boumsong (Lyon)

Midfielders: Lassana Diarra (Portsmouth/ENG), Claude Makelele (Chelsea/ENG), Jeremy Toulalan (Lyon), Patrick Vieira (Inter Milan/ITA), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/GER), Samir Nasri (Marseille)

Forwards:: Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea/ENG), Thierry Henry (Barcelona/ESP), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ENG), Karim Benzema (Lyon), Sidney Govou (Lyon), Bafetimbi Gomis (St Etienne).

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Z Wed May 28, 2008 4:18 pm

EMPortuguese wrote:Goalkeepers: Gregory Coupet (Lyon), Sebastien Frey (Fiorentina/ITA), Steve Mandanda (Marseille)

Defenders: Eric Abidal (Barcelona/ESP), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ENG), William Gallas (Arsenal/ENG), Willy Sagnol (Bayern Munich/GER), Lilian Thuram (Barcelona/ESP), Francois Clerc (Lyon), Sebastien Squillaci (Lyon), Jean-Alain Boumsong (Lyon)

Midfielders: Lassana Diarra (Portsmouth/ENG), Claude Makelele (Chelsea/ENG), Jeremy Toulalan (Lyon), Patrick Vieira (Inter Milan/ITA), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/GER), Samir Nasri (Marseille)

Forwards:: Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea/ENG), Thierry Henry (Barcelona/ESP), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ENG), Karim Benzema (Lyon), Sidney Govou (Lyon), Bafetimbi Gomis (St Etienne).

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Boumsong

lol!

After this season, I'd probably take Flamini over any of these CMs too. Bizarre.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by bluenine Wed May 28, 2008 4:27 pm

Italian Squad: Confirmed

Portieri: Buffon, Amelia, De Sanctis
Difensori: Barzagli, Cannavaro, Chiellini, Grosso, Materazzi, Panucci, Zambrotta
Centrocampisti: Ambrosini, Gattuso, Aquilani, Camoranesi, De Rossi, Perrotta, Pirlo
Attaccanti: Toni, Borriello, Del Piero, Di Natale, Quagliarella, Cassano

Reserve: Montolivo

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Z Wed May 28, 2008 4:30 pm

bluenine wrote:Italian Squad: Confirmed

Portieri: Buffon, Amelia, De Sanctis

Difensori: Barzagli, Cannavaro, Chiellini, Grosso, Materazzi, Panucci, Zambrotta

Centrocampisti: Ambrosini, Gattuso, Aquilani, Camoranesi, De Rossi, Perrotta, Pirlo

Attaccanti: Toni, Borriello, Del Piero, Di Natale, Quagliarella, Cassano

Reserve: Montolivo

Whats the likely starting eleven? and what would they do in the event that Toni was injured do you think?

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Post n°13

Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Fey Wed May 28, 2008 4:30 pm

But Montolivio=Fabregas!!!

Might as well give the damn thing to those Italians!!

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Axeslammer Wed May 28, 2008 4:34 pm

A team made of the French not going to the EC would probably get out of any group bar group C Shocked

Shocked

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by bluenine Wed May 28, 2008 4:39 pm

Z wrote:

bluenine wrote:Italian Squad: Confirmed

Portieri: Buffon, Amelia, De Sanctis

Difensori: Barzagli, Cannavaro, Chiellini, Grosso, Materazzi, Panucci, Zambrotta

Centrocampisti: Ambrosini, Gattuso, Aquilani, Camoranesi, De Rossi, Perrotta, Pirlo

Attaccanti: Toni, Borriello, Del Piero, Di Natale, Quagliarella, Cassano

Reserve: Montolivo

Whats the likely starting eleven? and what would they do in the event that Toni was injured do you think?

Most likely starting XI is:

------------------Buffon
Panucci - Cannavaro - Materazzi - Zambrotta
-------De Rossi ---- Pirlo ---- Ambrosini
Camoranesi --------Toni-----------Di Natale

Some likely options to be used in this formation are:
- Quagliarella for Camoranesi
- Gattuso for Ambrosini
- Del Piero for Di Natale
- Cassano for Camoranesi
- Barzagli for Materazzi
- Grosso at LB, and Zambrotta at RB

In the event of a Toni injury, Borreillo is the natural substitute. Though Donadoni has mentioned that he wouldn't mind experimenting with putting Del Piero in a central role, with Cassano just behind him.

Italy will also change the formation a bit along the comeptition, depending on the situation, getting in Perrotta/Aquilani instead of a winger.

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Post n°16

Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Axeslammer Wed May 28, 2008 4:41 pm

Oranje confirmed :

Goalies :

1. Edwin van der Sar
13. Henk Timmer
16. Maarten Stekelenburg

Defense :

2. André Ooijer
3. John Heitinga
4. Joris Mathijsen
5. Giovanni van Bronckhorst
12. Mario Melchiot
14. Wilfred Bouma
15. Tim de Cler

Defensive Midfielders :

6. Demy de Zeeuw
8. Orlando Engelaar
17. Nigel de Jong

Attacking Midfielders :

7. Robin van Persie
10. Wesley Sneijder
11. Arjen Robben
20. Ibrahim Afellay
23. Rafael van der Vaart

Attackers :

9. Ruud van Nistelrooy
18. Dirk Kuijt
19. Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
21. Ryan Babel
22. Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by bluenine Wed May 28, 2008 4:43 pm

Z wrote:

EMPortuguese wrote:Goalkeepers: Gregory Coupet (Lyon), Sebastien Frey (Fiorentina/ITA), Steve Mandanda (Marseille)

Defenders: Eric Abidal (Barcelona/ESP), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ENG), William Gallas (Arsenal/ENG), Willy Sagnol (Bayern Munich/GER), Lilian Thuram (Barcelona/ESP), Francois Clerc (Lyon), Sebastien Squillaci (Lyon), Jean-Alain Boumsong (Lyon)

Midfielders: Lassana Diarra (Portsmouth/ENG), Claude Makelele (Chelsea/ENG), Jeremy Toulalan (Lyon), Patrick Vieira (Inter Milan/ITA), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/GER), Samir Nasri (Marseille)

Forwards:: Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea/ENG), Thierry Henry (Barcelona/ESP), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ENG), Karim Benzema (Lyon), Sidney Govou (Lyon), Bafetimbi Gomis (St Etienne).

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Boumsong After this season, I'd probably take Flamini over any of these CMs too. Bizarre.

At some level I can understand the Trezeguat snub. Maybe even Flamini. But leaving out Mexes and taking Boumsong instead is a SHOCKER!!!

Mexes would have easily made the Italian Starting XI if he were Italian! And Treze would have gone as a back up for Toni.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by blutgraetsche Wed May 28, 2008 4:44 pm

Mexes is injured.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by bluenine Wed May 28, 2008 4:46 pm

Axeslammer wrote:Oranje confirmed :

Goalies :

1. Edwin van der Sar
13. Henk Timmer
16. Maarten Stekelenburg

Defense :

2. André Ooijer
3. John Heitinga
4. Joris Mathijsen
5. Giovanni van Bronckhorst
12. Mario Melchiot
14. Wilfred Bouma
15. Tim de Cler

Defensive Midfielders :

6. Demy de Zeeuw
8. Orlando Engelaar
17. Nigel de Jong

Attacking Midfielders :

7. Robin van Persie
10. Wesley Sneijder
11. Arjen Robben
20. Ibrahim Afellay
23. Rafael van der Vaart

Attackers :

9. Ruud van Nistelrooy
18. Dirk Kuijt
19. Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
21. Ryan Babel
22. Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink

Typical dutch squad - great attacking talent, dodgy defensive line up. I guess Van Basten will make them start with a cautious approach.

An attacking Holland in form could end Italy's hopes in the first game itself. I wish Italy started with Romania, even though they are no mugs and can qualify from the group.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Axeslammer Wed May 28, 2008 4:55 pm

bluenine wrote:
Typical dutch squad - great attacking talent, dodgy defensive line up.

Our attacking midfielders would be full strikers in most squads Wink

Wink

Then again our defenders wouldn't even make the bench in any other squad Embarassed

Embarassed

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Post n°21

Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Z Wed May 28, 2008 4:56 pm

bluenine wrote:

Z wrote:

EMPortuguese wrote:Goalkeepers: Gregory Coupet (Lyon), Sebastien Frey (Fiorentina/ITA), Steve Mandanda (Marseille)

Defenders: Eric Abidal (Barcelona/ESP), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ENG), William Gallas (Arsenal/ENG), Willy Sagnol (Bayern Munich/GER), Lilian Thuram (Barcelona/ESP), Francois Clerc (Lyon), Sebastien Squillaci (Lyon), Jean-Alain Boumsong (Lyon)

Midfielders: Lassana Diarra (Portsmouth/ENG), Claude Makelele (Chelsea/ENG), Jeremy Toulalan (Lyon), Patrick Vieira (Inter Milan/ITA), Franck Ribery (Bayern Munich/GER), Samir Nasri (Marseille)

Forwards:: Nicolas Anelka (Chelsea/ENG), Thierry Henry (Barcelona/ESP), Florent Malouda (Chelsea/ENG), Karim Benzema (Lyon), Sidney Govou (Lyon), Bafetimbi Gomis (St Etienne).

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Boumsong After this season, I'd probably take Flamini over any of these CMs too. Bizarre.

At some level I can understand the Trezeguat snub. Maybe even Flamini. But leaving out Mexes and taking Boumsong instead is a SHOCKER!!!

Mexes would have easily made the Italian Starting XI if he were Italian! And Treze would have gone as a back up for Toni.

Mexes was injured apparently, but I doubt he would have started even if he was fit.. I don't understand why he doesnt just finish with the oldies, or why they cant retire properly (ahem, makelele), they have had their time.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by gone Wed May 28, 2008 4:58 pm

Goalkeepers : Bogdan Lobonţ (Dinamo), Marius Popa (Poli Ştiinţa Timişoara), Eduard Stăncioiu (CFR Cluj)

Defenders : Cosmin Contra (Getafe), Gabriel Tamaş (AJ Auxerre), Ştefan Radu (Lazio Roma), Răzvan Raţ (Şahtior Doneţk), Cristian Săpunaru (Rapid), Dorin Goian (Steaua), Sorin Ghionea (Steaua), Cosmin Moţi (Dinamo)

Midfielders i: Florentin Petre (ŢSKA Sofia), Paul Codrea (AC Siena), Răzvan Cociş (Lokomotiv Moscova), Cristian Chivu (Internazionale Milano), Mirel Rădoi (Steaua), Nicolae Dică (Steaua), Bănel Nicoliţă (Steaua), Adrian Cristea (Dinamo)

Strikers: Adrian Mutu (AC Forentina), Ciprian Marica (VfB Stuttgart), Daniel Niculae (AJ Auxerre), Marius Niculae (Inverness).

The team will probably be:

-------------Lobont
Contra--Goian--Tamas--Rat
----------Chivu--Radoi
Petre/Nicolita----Cocis/Dica---Mutu
--------Marica

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Axeslammer Wed May 28, 2008 5:02 pm

God what an awesome group this is Ale

Ale

The best part is : not qualifying isn't even a disgrace

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by bluenine Wed May 28, 2008 6:26 pm

Axeslammer wrote:God what an awesome group this is

The best part is : not qualifying isn't even a disgrace

I haven't seen such a strong group since WC 1982 second group stage, when Italy, Brazil and Argentina fell into one group!! And that had resulted in 3 great great games.

Lets hope we see 2-3 great games in this group as well.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Machiavel Wed May 28, 2008 6:45 pm

bluenine wrote:

An attacking Holland in form could end Italy's hopes in the first game itself. I wish Italy started with Romania, even though they are no mugs and can qualify from the group.

This a joke? Holland could attack and attack, but 1 lapse in concentration at the back and it is all over before the cows come home. Italy are the masters of defending a lead.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by bluenine Wed May 28, 2008 10:54 pm

Markus wrote:

bluenine wrote:

An attacking Holland in form could end Italy's hopes in the first game itself. I wish Italy started with Romania, even though they are no mugs and can qualify from the group.

This a joke? Holland could attack and attack, but 1 lapse in concentration at the back and it is all over before the cows come home. Italy are the masters of defending a lead.

Correction: Italy WERE the masters of defending a lead.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Super Progress Wed May 28, 2008 11:43 pm

Markus wrote:

bluenine wrote:

An attacking Holland in form could end Italy's hopes in the first game itself. I wish Italy started with Romania, even though they are no mugs and can qualify from the group.

This a joke? Holland could attack and attack, but 1 lapse in concentration at the back and it is all over before the cows come home. Italy are the masters of defending a lead.

Actually they are not.saw something about stats showing they are not really masters at doing that. it was just perception because the italian club teams were plus Italy were great at winning games they didnt deserve.

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Ricardo Jol Thu May 29, 2008 7:23 am

bluenine wrote:

Markus wrote:

bluenine wrote:

An attacking Holland in form could end Italy's hopes in the first game itself. I wish Italy started with Romania, even though they are no mugs and can qualify from the group.

This a joke? Holland could attack and attack, but 1 lapse in concentration at the back and it is all over before the cows come home. Italy are the masters of defending a lead.

Correction: Italy WERE the masters of defending a lead.

What are you trying to do mate...? Put Italy in the underdog position? You look already a bit like Cannavaro and Toni... They both believe Oranje is by far the toughest opponent...

Stop that nonsense please...! I don't believe those trics! Evil or Very Mad

Evil or Very Mad

Rolling Eyes

Wink

@ SuperMadrid

Holland will line up a strong team (although no van Persie, no de Zeeuw) and I can't see Denmark to beat or draw us that way. You money is safe!

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Kroos Thu May 29, 2008 7:35 am

[quote="Axeslammer"]

bluenine wrote:
Typical dutch squad - great attacking talent, dodgy defensive line up.

Our attacking midfielders would be full strikers in most squads Wink

Wink

Then again our defenders wouldn't even make the bench in any other squad [/quote]

and your defensive midfielders too

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Re: Euro 2008 - Group C thread

by Axeslammer Thu May 29, 2008 9:42 am

Toni Kroos wrote:

and your defensive midfielders too

Please go talk nonsense about Germany again : this thread is for the grown ups

De Zeeuw would walk into most teams at the EC, Van Bommel is the undisputed leader of your own beloved Bayern and half of Europe is chasing Engelaar Ale

Ale

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