18/6 21.50 (local time) / 02.50 CET Brazil v Argentina

Both countries not doing that well. Any manager's job in danger yet? Expected line-ups?

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CONMEBOL WC QF table (5 matches played):

1. Paraguay 15
2. Argentina 10
3. Columbia 9
4. Brazil 8
5. Venezuela & Chile 7
7. Uruguay 5
8. Ecuador 4
9. Peru 3
10. Bolivia 1

Dunga na corda bamba

Nem mesmo dentro da Comissão Técnica da Seleção Brasileira a situação de Dunga é confortável.

O assessor de imprensa da CBF, Rodrigo Paiva, por exemplo, não esconde de ninguém que embora ele, Paiva, mantenha ótimas relações com o técnico, não pode dizer o mesmo em relação a outros integrantes do alto comando da Seleção.

Segundo alguns, até mesmo o auxiliar-técnico Jorginho está estressado com Dunga, que, sempre segundo Paiva, não se mostra uma pessoa habilidosa no trato do dia-a-dia. "É difícil lidar com ele", desabafa Paiva com o claro objetivo de que o desabafo vaze.

A crise desnecessária que criou com Kaká só agravou o quadro e o jogador ontem à noite, no programa "Bem, amigos" do Sportv, não fez nenhuma questão de poupá-lo.

Como nada acontece de graça no futebol neste nível no Brasil, nem Kaká seria tão claro se não estivesse seguro sobre seu futuro na Seleção nem certos setores de nossa imprensa, sempre preocupados em ficar bem com a CBF, começariam a criticar Dunga se ele não estivesse por um fio.

Nada que uma vitória diante da Argentina não possa resolver, ou, ao menos, adiar, hipótese, aliás, mais provável.

Comentário para o Jornal da CBN desta terça-feira, dia 17 de junho de 2008.

Lets hope so, this article says Dunga situation as Brazil manager is really dificult and even the members of Brazil staff are tired of him since he is a dificult person to work with. And a defeat for Argentina would make things impossible.

Also is important to note that Brasil most important News Group (Globo) are already discussing his situation and are openly critizing Dunga, and when this happens its a sign that changes are coming.

Kaka in a interview for this same TV slamed Dunga and the way he was dispensed from Brazil games against Paraguay and Argentina.

no line-ups yet(at least over here)...Demichelis misses the game cause of too many yellow cards, Veron is injured so won't be playing(thank god), and the squad's doctors have not confirmed if Mascherano will be able to play or not.

I'd expect Coloccini to replace Demichelis, maybe a 3 men defence like against Ecuador, with Burdisso and Heinze(urgh...). in midfield, Zanetti maybe Maxi Rodriguez(though he didn't do that well last game really) as volantes, and a probable Gago Mascherano central midfield(if Masche is fit).

Riquelme(play maker), who I believe Basile is obsessed with and refuses to accept that he can play badly at times, and Messi(on the left, though rotating with whoever joins him upfront, like he did with Aguero last match) will start, as sure as Cry baby ronaldo will dive against german defenders.

curious fact, for those of you who still have hope for our footie(I know I don't)...of the last 40 games between Argentina and Brazil
Brazil have won 19 of em...and Argentina only 7...so, Todo, Juli and Sheva...I wouldn't have much hope on Dunga getting the sack if I were you...

On a different matter...Leo, the English for Colombia is...Colombia...Columbia is a different region of the planet and has no connection whatsoever to the southamerican country, except a similar name which I find a lot of ppl on this board mistake for the country

It's Colombia in Dutch too. just me typing without thinking.

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:no line-ups yet(at least over here)...Demichelis misses the game cause of too many yellow cards, Veron is injured so won't be playing(thank god), and the squad's doctors have not confirmed if Mascherano will be able to play or not.

I'd expect Coloccini to replace Demichelis, maybe a 3 men defence like against Ecuador, with Burdisso and Heinze(urgh...). in midfield, Zanetti maybe Maxi Rodriguez(though he didn't do that well last game really) as volantes, and a probable Gago Mascherano central midfield(if Masche is fit).

Riquelme(play maker), who I believe Basile is obsessed with and refuses to accept that he can play badly at times, and Messi(on the left, though rotating with whoever joins him upfront, like he did with Aguero last match) will start, as sure as Cry baby ronaldo will dive against german defenders.

curious fact, for those of you who still have hope for our footie(I know I don't)...of the last 40 games between Argentina and Brazil
Brazil have won 19 of em...and Argentina only 7...so, Todo, Juli and Sheva...I wouldn't have much hope on Dunga getting the sack if I were you...

On a different matter...Leo, the English for Colombia is...Colombia...Columbia is a different region of the planet and has no connection whatsoever to the southamerican country, except a similar name which I find a lot of ppl on this board mistake for the country

And its Brasil, not Brazil

Jokes aside, what is the expected line-up for Argentina? Are you guys going to persist with Cruz? Isn't Crespo a better option even now?

And what about Cambiasso, I know he doesn't take his club form to international games, but he does form a decent partnership with Mascherano...

bluenine wrote:

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:no line-ups yet(at least over here)...Demichelis misses the game cause of too many yellow cards, Veron is injured so won't be playing(thank god), and the squad's doctors have not confirmed if Mascherano will be able to play or not.

I'd expect Coloccini to replace Demichelis, maybe a 3 men defence like against Ecuador, with Burdisso and Heinze(urgh...). in midfield, Zanetti maybe Maxi Rodriguez(though he didn't do that well last game really) as volantes, and a probable Gago Mascherano central midfield(if Masche is fit).

Riquelme(play maker), who I believe Basile is obsessed with and refuses to accept that he can play badly at times, and Messi(on the left, though rotating with whoever joins him upfront, like he did with Aguero last match) will start, as sure as Cry baby ronaldo will dive against german defenders.

curious fact, for those of you who still have hope for our footie(I know I don't)...of the last 40 games between Argentina and Brazil
Brazil have won 19 of em...and Argentina only 7...so, Todo, Juli and Sheva...I wouldn't have much hope on Dunga getting the sack if I were you...

On a different matter...Leo, the English for Colombia is...Colombia...Columbia is a different region of the planet and has no connection whatsoever to the southamerican country, except a similar name which I find a lot of ppl on this board mistake for the country

And its Brasil, not Brazil

Jokes aside, what is the expected line-up for Argentina? Are you guys going to persist with Cruz? Isn't Crespo a better option even now?

And what about Cambiasso, I know he doesn't take his club form to international games, but he does form a decent partnership with Mascherano...

Actually it is Brazil to English speakers and any other Germanic rooted language, its only latin-based languages that use Brasil, and as Brasil is how the Brazilians spell it then that is there choice. So neither is wrong. to shay

Ballack wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:no line-ups yet(at least over here)...Demichelis misses the game cause of too many yellow cards, Veron is injured so won't be playing(thank god), and the squad's doctors have not confirmed if Mascherano will be able to play or not.

I'd expect Coloccini to replace Demichelis, maybe a 3 men defence like against Ecuador, with Burdisso and Heinze(urgh...). in midfield, Zanetti maybe Maxi Rodriguez(though he didn't do that well last game really) as volantes, and a probable Gago Mascherano central midfield(if Masche is fit).

Riquelme(play maker), who I believe Basile is obsessed with and refuses to accept that he can play badly at times, and Messi(on the left, though rotating with whoever joins him upfront, like he did with Aguero last match) will start, as sure as Cry baby ronaldo will dive against german defenders.

curious fact, for those of you who still have hope for our footie(I know I don't)...of the last 40 games between Argentina and Brazil
Brazil have won 19 of em...and Argentina only 7...so, Todo, Juli and Sheva...I wouldn't have much hope on Dunga getting the sack if I were you...

On a different matter...Leo, the English for Colombia is...Colombia...Columbia is a different region of the planet and has no connection whatsoever to the southamerican country, except a similar name which I find a lot of ppl on this board mistake for the country

And its Brasil, not Brazil

Jokes aside, what is the expected line-up for Argentina? Are you guys going to persist with Cruz? Isn't Crespo a better option even now?

And what about Cambiasso, I know he doesn't take his club form to international games, but he does form a decent partnership with Mascherano...

Actually it is Brazil to English speakers and any other Germanic rooted language, its only latin-based languages that use Brasil, and as Brasil is how the Brazilians spell it then that is there choice. So neither is wrong. to shay

I've got a ticket for the match

If Dunga plays Mineiro, Josué and Gilberto Silva I'm expecting a boring draw. Brazil will have no creativity at all and Argentina will not have room to create. It will be great if Dunga plays Anderson from the start. (btw Anderson is just 20 yo but he is as arrogant as Roberto Carlos)

I'm also worried because after both teams got shitty results in the last round they are afraid of losing the match.

I wouldn't mind if Aguero and Messi score a brace. The match would be worth the ticket and, most importantly, clueless Dunga would be sacked

DO IT BABY

sheva7 wrote: (btw Anderson is just 20 yo but he is as arrogant as Roberto Carlos)

I was thinking the same thing Sheva ele é mais mascarado que o CRonaldo.

If Anderson continues with this $h!t he will be hated with guts by our always lovelly media. Cut the Cr@p accent kid

Poor Peru..I think I have seen all those countries at the World cup once..except Venezuela and Peru..

If it wasnt for them football directors Without them fuckos they would have been with the first 5 for sure!!

Fey wrote:Poor Peru..I think I have seen all those countries at the World cup once..except Venezuela and Peru..

If it wasnt for them football directors Without them fuckos they would have been with the first 5 for sure!!

Yeah, really glad we're at the EC playing against Cr@p teams like Italy and France

Imagine being in South America, you'd have to beat Peru to get anywhere

I don't think I'd be able to cope with that much stress....

Axeslammer wrote:
I don't think I'd be able to cope with that much stress....

in fairness, if football history is to be taken into account, neither would your national squad...

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:
I don't think I'd be able to cope with that much stress....

in fairness, if football history is to be taken into account, neither would your national squad...

At least we don't use guns to win a football match

Axeslammer wrote:

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:
I don't think I'd be able to cope with that much stress....

in fairness, if football history is to be taken into account, neither would your national squad...

At least we don't use guns to win a football match

nobody said you did

ohhhh, tension.

Kids lets focus in the football and putting Dunga out of misery

Dunga for President....

which means he doesn't have enough time to coach Brasil....

Fey wrote:Poor Peru..I think I have seen all those countries at the World cup once..except Venezuela and Peru..

If it wasnt for them football directors Without them fuckos they would have been with the first 5 for sure!!

Despite the problems, still fancy Brazil to win especially if Anderson-son-son gets in the team. The Argies are really nothing special

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:
I don't think I'd be able to cope with that much stress....

in fairness, if football history is to be taken into account, neither would your national squad...

ARGENTINA

how clever...

Peruvian players and journalists are really desperate to win their first match. They lost any good sense they had. Solano should point the gun at the corrupt fuckos, Puro...

sheva7 wrote:Peruvian players and journalists are really desperate to win their first match. They lost any good sense they had. Solano should point the gun at the corrupt fuckos, Puro...

aye and ppl say our football media is bad...

BC are you in your sig?

argentina, don't break my heart again, I want a 4-0. nothing less.

hehe what weird game, we all want a trash

does anyone have a link to a stream please... i cant find one
cheers

Uruguay 6-0 Peru

Damn Puro, thats a bad result

forza_rossi wrote:BC are you in your sig?

nope, that's just a picture of one of the thousands of spontaneous street protests against the peronist government c**ts who try to divide our nation and confront those who don't agree with their methods with violence by the use of their paramilitary forces, that took place yesterday in my city

Juligen wrote:Uruguay 6-0 Peru

Damn Puro, thats a bad result

90 min el gol de Abreu
Certainly nothing can beat this golazzo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vgXkTRPIrY[u]

haha, and now he's at river

Juligen wrote:Uruguay 6-0 Peru

Damn Puro, thats a bad result

Oh FFS! But to be fair Puro told me he was betting on Peru to lose (due to those corrupt fucko's) not a joke btw.