Florent Sinama Pongolle V Charles N'Zogbia

Settle a debate, Obispo and COTR seem to think Pongolle is a better player than N'Zogbia, obviously i disagree. The Pool fans mentioned that Pongolle had played well in 3 games but that's hardly convincing IMO.

how exactly will this poll settle it ...

Actually, we mentioned 3 games he played well in. We didn't just say "he's played well in 3 games".

Pongolle, by some distance. N'Zogbia is the ultimate pace-merchant. He's linford christie in a football kit.

COTR wrote:how exactly will this poll settle it ...

As far as i'm concerned it was "settled" last season when N'Zogbia scored 6 goals and got 8 assists, while Pongolle was nowhere.

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:how exactly will this poll settle it ...

As far as i'm concerned it was "settled" last season when N'Zogbia scored 6 goals and got 8 assists, while Pongolle was nowhere.

pongolle was busy keeping his CL medal nice and shiny last year kimbo and setting us on the road to yet another cup before helping blackburn get into europe...

i am very surprised the french under 21 coach missed all of zog's performances last year... must be a poor scouting network they have over in france

Except playing in a team that finished ahead of you...

Well... 2 of them, if you want to be accurate.

COTR wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:how exactly will this poll settle it ...

As far as i'm concerned it was "settled" last season when N'Zogbia scored 6 goals and got 8 assists, while Pongolle was nowhere.

pongolle was busy keeping his CL medal nice and shiny last year kimbo and setting us on the road to yet another cup before helping blackburn get into europe...

i am very surprised the french under 21 coach missed all of zog's performances last year... must be a poor scouting network they have over in france

He didn't, N'Zogbia got called up but was kicked out of the squad because of the Le Harve dispute.

Obispo wrote:Except playing in a team that finished ahead of you...

Well... 2 of them, if you want to be accurate.

Now THAT is the poorest argument i've ever heard. That would mean that Fletcher is better than Alonso.

Kimbo wrote:

Obispo wrote:Except playing in a team that finished ahead of you...

Well... 2 of them, if you want to be accurate.

Now THAT is the poorest argument i've ever heard. That would mean that Fletcher is better than Alonso.

nope that wasn't his argument...

you said pongolle was nowhere... obispo simply told you were he was... no argument involved at all

COTR wrote:

Kimbo wrote:

Obispo wrote:Except playing in a team that finished ahead of you...

Well... 2 of them, if you want to be accurate.

Now THAT is the poorest argument i've ever heard. That would mean that Fletcher is better than Alonso.

nope that wasn't his argument...

you said pongolle was nowhere... obispo simply told you were he was... no argument involved at all

Well he sould've said "playing poorly" then.

anyway there are several misspecifications and bias in this poll that i have no doubt will result in n'zogbia winning


1) pongolle has been at a top club where first team chances are far more limited than a mid table club for most of the period people will be judging him on

2) by mentioning me and obi in the post people will instantly pick the other option

3) your unrealistic and vastly OTT hype surrounding charlie may have influenced some of the less informed or weaker minds

COTR wrote:
1) pongolle has been at a top club where first team chances are far more limited than a mid table club for most of the period people will be judging him on

And how do you explain him looking so average for Blackburn?

Kimbo wrote:

COTR wrote:
1) pongolle has been at a top club where first team chances are far more limited than a mid table club for most of the period people will be judging him on

And how do you explain him looking so average for Blackburn?

i do not attempt to explain somebody elses opinion especially one which i do not agree with... ull have to explain ur own opinion im afraid kimbo

Ever thought about being a politician?

Kimbo wrote:Ever thought about being a politician?

hughes trying to sign pongolle but us flat out refusing tells me everything i need to know about his performances for blackburn kimbo

don't worry... i have no doubt u will learn soon enough

pongolle >>>>>> n zogbia...

and if all else fails we'll just compare the medal counts in 10 years time ... i do believe pongolle has already got a massive head start...

(to be continued 2moro)

don't worry... i have no doubt u will learn soon enough

pongolle was that good why did Liverpool sell him.

Go to be N'Zogbia, Pongolle has done nothing significant in the Premiership to justify his supposed talent. And for me the biggest factor is that if he really was that good then he wouldn't keep getting loaned out and marginalised (signing Kuyt, etc.) by Benitez. Of course the disclaimer to that is if Rafa was doing it because Pongolle was Houllier's signing.

I do think that N'Zogbia is the bigger talent of the two - but he's never saved his club's ar$e in the way that Pongolle has - Olympiakos & Luton to name but 2.

As the current situation stand, The Zog has the brighter future, but he hasn't made an impact in vital games the way Sinima has.

Only Liverpool fans think Pongolle is any good.... Sorry.

Messiah wrote:don't worry... i have no doubt u will learn soon enough

pongolle was that good why did Liverpool sell him.

who did we sell him to messi... this is all news to me mate

You know my view Kimbo

Kimbo wrote:Fletcher is better than Alonso.

Some of these responses perplex me greatly.

We did not sell him. We loaned him out because he's 20 and wasn't getting enough first team football. If we didn't think he was any good then why isn't we've left no option to buy on either of these loan deals?

Possibly because we didn't think we were getting offered enough money... a decent season elsewhere would increase the selling price? Or maybe his wages are on the high side and no club is willing to meet his personal demands?

Roger_Hunt wrote:Possibly because we didn't think we were getting offered enough money... a decent season elsewhere would increase the selling price? Or maybe his wages are on the high side and no club is willing to meet his personal demands?

I doubt it's his wages. He was signed as a 16 year old, so I doubt he's going to be on astronomical wages.

I doubt it too... just pointing out that there are some other possible reasons.

Nice to see there's some sane people outthere.

Be interesting to know if any non-Liverpool fans voted for Pongolle.

Kimbo,

Ive voted for N'Zogbia, so we can therefore stike a deal:

The next Super Len V. anybody else (ie excluding the Zog) thread to emerge, you return the favour.

Are we understanding each other?

Politicians have been using this form of vote rigging for years. Its high time we brought Government-level Corruption to the masses

Kimbo wrote:Nice to see there's some sane people outthere.

Be interesting to know if any non-Liverpool fans voted for Pongolle.

this poll proves nothing... it was obvious charlie would win it for the reasons i have stated mainly misspecifications in the polling....


only time can really tell kimbo

I can see why Kimbo doesn't rate Pongolle though. Geordies have grown to dislike strikers.

4-6-0.