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    Post by Murray Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:40 pm

    New Tim Vickery column on Peruvian football. Looks like Puro was right about the corrupt fuckos.

    The slide of Peruvian football

    * Tim Vickery
    * 10 Nov 08, 03:01 PM

    When Peru burst on to the scene with beautiful and vibrant football in the 1970 World Cup, some compared them to the great Hungarian side of the 50s, most compared them to Brazil and all agreed that a new power had emerged.

    Five years later they were South American champions - but it soon proved to be a tale of one generation, which had some good moments in the 1978 World Cup and fizzled out four years later. Peru were not too far off making it to Mexico 86, and only goal difference kept them out of France 98. But they have not been back to the World Cup since 1982, and barring a sporting miracle, they are not going to be in South Africa in 2010. With 10 of the 18 qualifying rounds completed, Peru are bottom of the table.

    In 2005, when the country hosted the World Under-17 Cup, I had the privilege of running into Teofilo Cubillas, Scotland's executioner in 1978 and the brightest star of that 70s generation. Where, I asked him, had Peruvian football gone wrong?

    He sighed and began by saying, "that's a big subject."

    Three years later I suspect that an answer to the same question would be prefaced by a longer, deeper sigh. Peruvian football is now in utter chaos.

    The country was set to stage the South American Under-20 Championship next January. On Friday it was replaced by Venezuela. The tournament could not go ahead in Peru because the government, through its sports institute (IPD) is in open conflict with the local FA (PFP), and especially its president Manuel Burga.

    First elected in 2002, Burga and his team are accused of not bringing the FPF statutes in line with Peruvian law. The IPD gave him a five-year suspension, but in defiance of this Burga stood for re-election (a year late) and won a second mandate. As a consequence the IPD does not recognise Burga. It owns the stadiums that were to be used in the Under-20 Championship, and will not hand them over for use by a FPF under his administration.

    It gets worse. Fifa traditionally takes a hard line on anything seen as government interference in FA matters. It has given a deadline of 21 November for problems to be sorted out or else Peru is facing a suspension.

    It seems that the majority of Peruvians are in favour of the IPD's stance (I'm writing this while looking at an opinion poll where 87% blame the FPF for the current situation, and only 11% blame the IPD). Burga will hope that the support of Fifa will compensate for any lack of domestic backing, especially as a suspension from Fifa will exclude Peruvian clubs from international competition - which could prove a persuasive argument to rally forces to his side.

    Whatever the rights and wrongs of the situation, if Burga has lost the confidence of those in Peruvian football then his continued presence is surely counter-productive. But it is equally clear that changing the head of the PFP will not get close to solving all the problems.

    One of the most striking aspects of contemporary Peruvian football is the cloying culture of negativity. Alone in South America, Peru has over the last 25 years developed a seedy tabloid press which specialises in grubby and falsely moralistic stories about footballers drinking and womanising.

    After supposed high jinks following last year's draw with Brazil, some of Peru's top players were suspended from the national team - Pizarro (who still angrily declares his innocence), Farfan, Acasiete, Mendoza - players that Peru can hardly afford to leave out. One of Peru's top TV presenters is currently in prison after making unfounded remarks about the off-field behaviour of striker Guerrero. She was chasing the audience that such items seem to guarantee.

    There is something very unhealthy about this fascination. There is no doubt that standards of professionalism in Peruvian football could improve. But there seems to be a dose of self-hatred in the local obsession with footballers straying off the straight and narrow, as if the reader is confessing that he too would succumb to the same temptations if he was in the same situation.

    Former Peru player and coach Juan Carlos Oblitas has drawn attention to the insecurity and lack of self-esteem of the Peruvian players. His point is emphasised by the team's campaign in the current World Cup qualifiers.

    They have yet to lose at home - despite playing Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay, among others. They haven't played much football, but they have run and tackled and scrapped and tried to show the Lima crowd that they are not just a bunch of drunkards.

    In their 5 away games, without the same emotional backing, they have collapsed, losing all 5, scoring 1, conceding 17.

    "My generation were stronger physically and mentally," Cubillas told me three years ago. And there were other things on his mind - like the fact that in his day there were good coaches working in the state education system. As he says, the sad state of Peruvian football is a big subject.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/timvickery/2008/11/the_slide_of_peruvian_football.html
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    Post by Puro Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:11 pm

    Murray, Vickery is only reporting 1% of the chaos. The FPF needs to be burned to the ground. It is a complete cesspool, and I'm being very conservative in my appreciation of the FPF that Nicolás Delfino's reign brought to Peruvian football over 25 years ago.

    The guy has paid off reporters in the media, refs, football directors in certain clubs, presidents in almost all the departmental leagues (23 of them and they are the ones who are easily paid off for their vote). Manuel Burga is his pupil and current FPF president. He's just waiting to get the FIFA lifetime meal ticket, and someone else from this cesspool will want to take "charge" and the cycle repeats. Delfino already got the FIFA lifetime cheques, Burga's goal is to get his FIFA cheques as well.

    The Delfino web of corruption must be bombed, it must be mutilated for Peruvian football to progress. This fucko always blackmailed Peruvian football saying "if you interfere then FIFA will suspend our football". Burga has been blackmailing Peruvian authorities as well just like his mentor Delfino. However, the people has told the government to erase them fuckos FIFA suspension or not. Not another day with these corrupt fuckos leading the FPF. <Ale>
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    Post by Puro Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:26 pm

    It's official. FIFA have suspended Perú from every international competition. Them corrupt fuckos have finally done it. What Delfino started back in the 80's and his pupil Burga continued until today, to drag us dead last in South America, has reached hopefully the end of the road.

    A much needed revolution is needed in the FPF. The removal of these rats from the FPF is imperative. Burga has just said that he won't resign his post. Of course not! He's got two years to get his FIFA lifetime cheques just like his mentor Delfino. There you have it. 99% of the fans were hoping for a FIFA suspension. People do not want another day with the Delfino-Burga reign in the FPF.

    REVOLUTION! cheers
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    Post by SuperMario Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:14 pm

    What was the exact reason for FIFA banning your FA. Burga being chosen or Garcia objecting to it?
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    Post by Puro Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:28 am

    De Guzman wrote:What was the exact reason for FIFA banning your FA. Burga being chosen or Garcia objecting to it?

    Burga told FIFA that the government was interfering with his FPF so FIFA of course believed Burga. All of Peru believes that FIFA's corrupt too!

    Burga always told the government that the FPF was a private federation that only answers to FIFA. We were supposed to host the South American U 20 tournament in January 2009. The IPD (Peruvian Sports Institute) -owner of several stadia- told Burga (considered an illegitimate FPF president by the IPD) that he couldn't have the stadia for the event, and since he didn't have to answer to the IPD, he was told to go to FIFA to give him the stadia he wanted. Burga then ran to big corrupt fuckos Leoz head of CONMEBOL and Blatter telling them that the Peruvian government was interfering with his "autonomous" FPF. Biggrin

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Burga's FPF is a complete cesspool full of the most corrupt people running Peruvian football. The latest poll determined that 99% of Peruvians wanted "to die standing up with dignity instead of being at the mercy of the rat Burga and his cronies". The rotten root that Delfino started in the FPF back in the 80's must be burned completely.

    Peruvians 99% do not want another day with Burga at the helm. We welcome FIFA's ban. We wanted it a long time ago because we ain't going anywhere with Burga in charge. The only thing he wants is to secure that FIFA "blue button" lifetime cheques, and all the perks that come with it. <Ale>
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    Post by Yef Tue Nov 25, 2008 12:36 pm

    They banned PERU!!!! No No No

    If it wasnt for these fuckos Peru would have easily made it to a few more WC's and certainly won a few Copa America's!
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    Post by Kimbo Tue Nov 25, 2008 1:24 pm

    RIP!! They will be missed, i can't imagine a world cup without Peru.
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    Post by Puro Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:14 pm

    Fey and Kimbo bro! We suck now, but there was a time when we were up there right next to Brasil. From 1970 until 1985, our football was really really good. If we were to lose a match it was only against a WC finalist. We've always had the talent and desire to play the game, it's in our genes.

    I can point to the time when Peruvian football was doomed and that was when Nicolás Delfino entered the FPF in the mid 80's. At the time we were second in South America behind Brasil. We had KO Uruguay from WC 1982 AFTER they had won the mini-world cup beating Holland, Italia, Brasil (a tournament for WC winners, Holland was a guest).

    From WC 1986 and on it was when Delfino was in charge. We still had some top players in those qualifiers and were on the verge of KO Argentina for the second time from a WC (we would've traumatized the Argies for life!). No one besides us has KO them from a WC (1970) let alone two times. For WC '86 we beat them in Lima 1-0 and they tied us 2-2 with less than 5 minutes left in the return match in Buenos Aires. Maradona was in his peak during this time, he was the best in the world, but we had Cesar Cueto (Zidane of Perú) dictating the game, owning both games Lima and Buenos Aires.

    Peruvian stars such as Cueto, Velasquez, Uribe, Navarro, Olaechea, Acasuzo, Barbadillo and many more talented players never had proper replacements developed by Delfino and his cronies for he was only interested in obtaining the FIFA perks for life just like his protegé nowadays Burga wants to get.

    Many of our South American brothers are saying in their editorials from Uruguay to Argentina to Chile and Colombia "a historic team cannot be left to die" and things like that. Never fucking the less, we've been dead for a while thanks to these two fuckos Delfino and Burga. That's what the rest don't know. We've been dead, but we will rise again. The country is heading in the right direction across the board but in football. That's the one place that's stagnant and will remain shite until we hack down the Delfino-Burga rotten trunk and burn it completely. Biggrin <Ale>
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    Post by 110% Tue Nov 25, 2008 3:37 pm

    Kimbo wrote:RIP!! They will be missed, i can't imagine a world cup without Peru.

    Laughing
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    Post by Murray Tue Jun 30, 2009 7:33 pm

    Interesting article about the corrupt fuckos

    Peru's players have acted in a bid to arrest a decline in standards, writes Brian Homewood



    The Peruvian players' union has come up with some constructive suggestions to improve the state of the game.



    By Brian Homewood


    Peruvian players have threatened they will boycott the national team
    unless sweeping and deep-rooted changes are made to the way football is
    run in their country.


    The Peruvian Players Union have sent a document to the federation
    (FPF) setting out what it sees as the reforms which are needed to end
    the seemingly interminable decline.


    Interestingly, the document is detailed, to-the-point and
    constructive – a refreshing change from the attitude of the directors,
    whose only response in the face of bad results is to sack the coach and
    maybe punish the players for alleged “indiscipline.” Divided into six
    sections, the report deals with the first division, second division,
    amateur football, youth divisions, the FPF itself and the discredited
    disciplinary system.


    In the case of the first division, the union complains that no
    minimum standards are required for the first division clubs, working
    conditions for players are appalling, contracts are not respected and
    that clubs fail to pay social security contributions for the players.


    Just an example of what this means, many clubs list in a state of
    virtual reality with no headquarters, no stadium and, in many cases, no
    training facilities.


    The lack of training facilities forces the coaching staff to waste
    much of their time looking for somewhere to practice often at the last
    moment.

    Even champions Deportivo San Martin, regarded as one of the better-run outfits, do not have a regular stadium.


    Meanwhile clubs fold, merge, move and re-form with bewildering
    frequency. One of the most recent examples concerns the Arequipa-based
    team Total Clean, who won promotion last year but then merged with
    Callao-based second division side Atletico Chalaco. The new club was
    named Total Chalaco but it was Callao, not Arequipa, which got the
    first division team.


    “There is no protection for the coaches and their staff against
    tempestuous sackings by the directors, even though they are not allowed
    to coach another club in the same season,” adds the union's report.


    “Competitive matches are scheduled at times of extreme heat on
    artificial pitches without taking into account the health of the
    players.”

    As for the second division, the union argues that players should be
    considered professionals under FIFA guidelines but are in fact treated
    as amateurs with clubs running roughshod over labour legislation.


    One of the union's biggest bugbears is the Copa Peru, a huge FA-Cup
    style nationwide tournament involving more than 100 teams which rewards
    the winners with a place in the first division.


    “The system mixes professional players with amateurs. It's so
    absurd that it allows a club which is founded in January to take part
    in the first division the following year,” says the union.


    On youth development, it said there was no control over youth team
    coaches, no competitive youth football outside Lima and no football
    schools to develop top-level players. “There are no centres for the
    development of top level youngsters. There is no system for appointing,
    controlling or certifying youth team coaches.”


    The union's initiative was given a generally positive response.
    “We're not turning our backs on Peru,” said midfielder Roberto
    Palacios. “On the contrary, we're doing this so that the national team
    improves and to change the image. We're trying to look for solutions.”


    Universitario coach Juan Reynoso said: “The union's stance is a
    good way out. This is not about getting rid of (FPF president) Manuel
    Burga, it's about improving the administration of the game and giving
    Peruvian football a better future.”

    “There will be casualties but, hopefully, there will be a turning point and we can qualify for a World Cup.”



    Shortly after the union's announcement, the FPF gave another example of
    their bumbling approach. Following the 1-0 defeat away to Colombia in a
    World Cup qualifier (Peru's eighth successive loss), the delegation
    left striker Hernan Rengifo behind in the team hotel in Medellin. The
    directors only noticed his absence when their plane touched down in
    Lima. And they had his passport for “safe keeping.”


    lol! lol! lol!


    http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/perus_players_have_acted_in_a_bid_to_arrest_a_decline_in_standards_writes_brian_homewood_features_284784.html
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    Post by Puro Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:01 pm

    Murray, those corrupt fuckos are only concerned about making money for themselves, stay in power long enough to secure the lifetime FIFA cheques. We've had to put up with these assholes for over 25 years, their net of corruption is vast from judges, journos, radio personalities etc they're all in the payroll.

    The only thing keeping us down is those incompetent corrupt assholes. We have the talent to be way up there in South America next to Brasil. We have KO Argentina from a World Cup in their own stadium no less. We KO Uruguay in their own house. The talent is there and I'm plesantly surprised that guys like Claudio Pizarro, Farfán, Solano, Guerrero, Acasiete, Vargas, Rodriguez, Rengifo are where they are WITHOUT any help from the FPF. They've done it by themselves. <Ale>

    We'll be back! I don't know when but we'll be back hopefully soon to finish on top of the Dutchies again like in '78! Biggrin <Ale>

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