Russian Premier League 2009/2010

Like a couple of others on here (De Guzzy is one) I sort of follow this league on EuroGoals etc but don't really know it that well 'cos I don't see live games from there.

Still worth its own thread though as it fast improving and has given us 2 of the last 4 UEFA Cup winners.

Anyway, looking at Rubin Kazan's squad I figured that one of the reason's they won the league was because Zenit had a massive fixture pile up due to UEFA Cup win and the season being postponed for the Euro's.

Zenit also had a couple of key players involved in this tournie which must have hindered them a bit.

I think most of us outsiders see CSKA and Zenit being a cut above the others in this league and I'd expect CSKA to take the title.

Rebrov's Rubin Kazan started with a win though:

Week 1

FK Amkar Perm' 0 - 0 FK Rostov-Na-Donu

I've never heard of either team or any of their players apart from peev the ex Dynamo Kiev player who is with the home side.


Dinamo Moscow 1 - 0 FC Moscow
90' Alexander Kerzhakov 1 - 0

As well as Kherzhakov Dinamo have Luke Wilkshire and Kolodin (the Cb with the really hard shot from Euro '08.

Fc Moscow have Edgaras Cesnauskis who, with a name like that, must have played for Hearts or will do at some point in the future.


Lokomotiv Moscow 1 - 1 FC Khimki
27' 0 - 1 Miodrag Jovanovic
65' Dennis Glushakov 1 - 1


Lokomotiv have Diniyar Bilyaletdinov who was good in The Euro's and Peter Odemwingie who you will remember from Man U v Lille games - he was born in Russia.

Khimki I've never heard of but have Viktor Boudianski who played for a couple of clubs in Serie A.


FK Rubin Kazan 3 - 0 Kuban Krasnodar
25' Alexander Bukharov 1 - 0
32' Sergei Semak 2 - 0
54' Alexander Bukharov 3 - 0

Semak and Rebrov are the players we will be more familiar with from The Champions line up - ex Sparta Rotterdam midfielder Sani Kaita plays for the visitors.

Spartak Moscow 1 - 1 Zenit St Petersburg
2' Ivan Saenko 1 - 0
16' 1 - 1 Pavel Pogrebniak

Laudrup v Advocaat.

Zenit signed Fernando Meira from Galatasaray this week - Arshavin replacement Huszti stayed on the bench throughout.

FK Tom' Tomsk 0 - 1 PFK Samara Kryliya Sovetov
51' 0 - 1 Evgeni Savin

Tom Tomsk are from Siberia - Jiri Jarosik and Jan Koller are familiar names for the away side.


Saturn Moscow 0 - 3 CSKA Moscow
31' Benoit Angbwa
69' 0 - 1 Alan Dzagoev
83' 0 - 2 Sergei Ignashevich
87' 0 - 3 Sergei Ignashevich

No one really famous for the home side - we all know CSKA.

Wagner Love didn't play and Krasic only came on for the last 16.


Terek Grozny 1 - 0 Spartak Nalchik
90' Guedes Cleber 1 - 0

No one really famous in these teams.






1 CSKA Moscow 3
2 FK Rubin Kazan 3
3 PFK Samara Kryliya Sovetov 3
4 Dinamo Moscow 3
5 Terek Grozny 3
6 Zenit St Petersburg 1
7 Lokomotiv Moscow 1
8 FK Amkar Perm' 1
9 Spartak Moscow 1
10 FC Khimki 1
11 FK Rostov-Na-Donu 1
12 FC Moscow 0
13 FK Tom' Tomsk 0
14 Spartak Nalchik 0
15 Saturn Moscow 0
16 Kuban Krasnodar 0

Do you know why Meira moved on so quickly from Gala? Did he not settle there, or did Zenit just make an offer that was too good to turn down?

All I can think of is Vagner Love

Well since Laudrup took over for Spartak they have started to show the league here and they were showing games today. Might catch a game if it is entertaining.

Sheffield gunner wrote:Do you know why Meira moved on so quickly from Gala? Did he not settle there, or did Zenit just make an offer that was too good to turn down?

Gala paid about EUR 4m for him in the summer and Zenit offered about EUR 6m.

He made a couple of clangers in the Gala v Bordeaux match but don't know if he did well for them apart from that.

Riviera wrote:All I can think of is Vagner Love

He has a sex tape if you really can't stop thinking about him



Decent Vagner Love goal compilation with a classic late 90's tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ExP4JPowY

Thought Danny was the Arshavin replacement. Is Puygrenier still at Bolton?

Khadrim wrote:Thought Danny was the Arshavin replacement. Is Puygrenier still at Bolton?

He joined about 6 months before Arshavin left but yeah you're right.

I don't know if Huszti will rotate with him off the front man or play on teh left hand side or what.

Puygrennier is still at Bolton I think

How does that work? And how/when did they buy Meira? I assume because it is a summer league they have different transfer windows?

Did anyone see Pavel Pogrebniak's goal this weekend.

600 Zenit hoolies got arrested today in Moscow...ffs they even had to use the militairy!

Fey wrote:600 Zenit hoolies got arrested today in Moscow...ffs they even had to use the militairy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8kK7562Zks

Better vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9yfh2nyHww

Fey wrote:600 Zenit hoolies got arrested today in Moscow...ffs they even had to use the militairy!

No wonder, Zenit - Spartak is the biggest derby for the 2 teams.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Riviera wrote:All I can think of is Vagner Love

He has a sex tape if you really can't stop thinking about him



Decent Vagner Love goal compilation with a classic late 90's tune

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ExP4JPowY

Yeah I know that was the point. Not that I've seen it. The headline in a newspaper today was something like "Vagner Love - pornstar and .." something something

I think Zenit had a particularly packed July last season - they had a few weeks off prior to the UEFA Cup final in May, and from that point, the Russian league was suspended until after the European Championships - but they didn't suffer a really extensive fixture pile-up. They just had an uneven, inconsistent season. They scored lots of goals but even then they didn't take a lot of the chances they created during games, whilst they also conceded a lot. Pogrebnyak was out injured for an extended period; Anyukov was out for a little while; and they suffered injuries to their centre backs, so Shirokov, the converted midfielder, played a lot of games in the centre of defence for them - whilst he's good technically, he's not especially solid defensively. Meira should make them stronger at the back.

Rubin Kazan had a very good season last year, and I expect them to be up there again this season. They have a few good players. Semak is their leader in the centre of midfield; whilst nobody scored lots of goals for them last year, Bukharov, Rebrov and Karadeniz (a well-capped Turkish player who had a particularly good season) all chipped in with a number. They have a couple of Argentinians - a left back, Cristian Ansaldi; and a forward, Dominguez, who they've just signed from Zenit - and they were being linked to Cristian Ledesma from Olympiakos just last week, but I'm not sure whether the Russian transfer window has closed now.

They bought Roman Adamov, a tall forward who was in Russia's Euro 2008 squad but who didn't feature much, from FC Moscow midway through last season - he didn't play many games for them, but he'll probably feature much more this season, and he had a good goalscoring record for FC Moscow (he was the league's joint top scorer in 2007).

Lokomotiv Moscow have recently signed Baye Djiby Fall, a Senegalese forward who scored lots of goals in the Danish league last year.

Ray Parlour wrote:Did anyone see Pavel Pogrebniak's goal this weekend.

Yeah heard it is supposed to be amazing. Any videos of it. Right up there with Ibra's stunning FK this weekend.

Remember De Guzman telling me about Pavel Prog ages ago. He said he is one of the best striker around. Would like to see him in the EPL. Think he'd do well. Better than Pav at Spurs maybe?

The league is on a Chinese Economy like rise. Hopefully it'll be on TV here soon, the games are on the earliest in Europe too. I've enjoyed watching Russia since Hiddink took the helm, very attractive brand of Football. Hope the make it in 2010.

The Quiet Earth wrote:

Ray Parlour wrote:Did anyone see Pavel Pogrebniak's goal this weekend.

Yeah heard it is supposed to be amazing. Any videos of it. Right up there with Ibra's stunning FK this weekend.

Remember De Guzman telling me about Pavel Prog ages ago. He said he is one of the best striker around. Would like to see him in the EPL. Think he'd do well. Better than Pav at Spurs maybe?

If you go onto www.101greatgoals.com you can watch all the goals from European football this weekend.

I think he would he's at the right age but would take him a while to adapt to the Physicality and pace of the EPL.

To be honest I always thought he was better than Pav in the first place. Pav only played in the Euros because The Pog was injured.

Tom Tomsk are Siberian? Sweet...that's a new team for me to like.

I'm definitely a Pav over Pog man myself.

Pog is a battering ram, sweet striker of a ball but slow.

Pav has better technique, movement and pace.

Would be best to see them both in the EPL to compare.

GianDeano Zola wrote:Tom Tomsk are Siberian? Sweet...that's a new team for me to like.

How come ?

Pierre Littbarski wrote:I'm definitely a Pav over Pog man myself.

Pog is a battering ram, sweet striker of a ball but slow.

Pav has better technique, movement and pace.

Pav is known to need about 5 scoring chances before he can score a goal. Pog is the man.

Cirque du Barcelona wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:I'm definitely a Pav over Pog man myself.

Pog is a battering ram, sweet striker of a ball but slow.

Pav has better technique, movement and pace.

Pav is known to need about 5 scoring chances before he can score a goal. Pog is the man.

It's like comparing Henry with Drogba, they both play in attack that's where the similarity ends. Of course Pav is a far better footballer & Pog is the closest thing we had to Horst Hrubesch (old Germany/HSV mean big box motherfucker.). Who's better depends on what you want / how you play.

By the way don't know if anyone rememebers my Pog is the best striker in the world thread. Just to be sure: that was a joke. Just was glad to see an old skool striker.

De Guzman wrote:It's like comparing Henry with Drogba, they both play in attack that's where the similarity ends. Of course Pav is a far better footballer & Pog is the closest thing we had to Horst Hrubesch (old Germany/HSV mean big box motherfucker.). Who's better depends on what you want / how you play.

By the way don't know if anyone rememebers my Pog is the best striker in the world thread. Just to be sure: that was a joke. Just was glad to see an old skool striker.

The man whose name should be synonymous with the final group games kicking off simultaneously in World Cups.

Did you see Pog's goal at the weekend ?

What's the story behind that Pierre?

Pog's goal was cracking. Really hoping to see the rise of the Eastern European clubs once again. Would make a refreshing change to see clubs from Eastern Europe challenging for the CL. The oligarchs seem to be trying to bring this to fruition what with them signing guys left right and centre from Brazil, as well as creating state of the art training facilities.

The Bulk wrote:What's the story behind that Pierre?

Pog's goal was cracking. Really hoping to see the rise of the Eastern European clubs once again. Would make a refreshing change to see clubs from Eastern Europe challenging for the CL. The oligarchs seem to be trying to bring this to fruition what with them signing guys left right and centre from Brazil, as well as creating state of the art training facilities.

Horst Hrubesch scored the only goal for West germany v Austria in the final group game of WC'82.

If Germany won by 3 (?) or more they and Algeria would go through.

If Germany failed to win austria and Algeria would go through.

Hrubesch scored in the 1st ten mins or so and then both teams just pissed about for the rest of the game without either goal coming under threat.

From then on all final group games were played at the same time to stop a repeat.

Cheers Pierre. Didn't know that. Googled a pic of that guy and he is intimidating for sure. Pog is nowhere near as scary as that guy. Modern defenders would sh1t themselves from that guy in case they broke a nail or he ruffled their hair or got mud on their pressed strips. A footballing tank from a different age is that Teuton.