Best kids?

Who in your opinion is the best, most succesfull young team of the modern era?

Was it the Manchester United kids of the mid 90's who won everything with youngsters Ryan Giggs, Nicky Butt, David Beckham, Paul Scholes and the Neville brothers, Gary and Phil.

Was it the Arsenal team who flattered to decieve and won NOTHING?

Or is it the current crop of Manchester United kids who have already won 3 trophies this season and are on course for two more?



Who is the best manager for bringing through homegrown British talent and giving them experience in the top competitions?

Oh dear...

Glenn, please do us a favour and post United's lineups of kids from the Carling Cup this season.

That is, if you don't mind answering your own questions.

That poster is not the actual Batman Kas.

Parks lives wrote:That poster is not the actual Batman Kas.

I know, I saw your post outing Glenn yesterday...hence my last sentence.

Amos, Gibson, Manucho, Eckersley, Evans, Chester, Campbell, Anderson, Nani, Fabio, Rafael, Welbeck, Macheda and Possebon are all 21 or younger except for Nani and Manucho.

Louis van Gaal and the 1995 Ajax youngsters

Technically none of those players are kids. They could all be convicted as adults by law, say if they were to have raped someone. Perhaps.

The Ajax team of 1995 only contained 1 top player and he has only reached his peak while at Manchester United under the greatest manager of all time.

Hart, Richards, Onuoha, Ireland, Johnson, Zabaleta, Bojinov, Kompany, De Jong, Ceicedo, Sturridge, Evans, Garrido, Fernandes, Jo, Etuhu and Logan. Thats all the players we have aged 24 or under who have played this season, obviously not to the standard of the U*d team of the 90s or the Arsenal side so dont think im trying to even compare. Just saying i think we have some great prospects especially in Hart, Richards, Onuoha, Ireland, Johnson, Zabaleta, Bojinov, Kompany, De Jong and Sturridge.

Although if Sturridge wants £70k a week then he can fuck off. Although as a player he does have a lot of potential, apparently if you added all his playing time this season together he has played the equilivent of 11 full games and has managed 4 goals and 5 assists in this perio which is decent.

Batman wrote:Amos, Gibson, Manucho, Eckersley, Evans, Chester, Campbell, Anderson, Nani, Fabio, Rafael, Welbeck, Macheda and Possebon are all 21 or younger except for Nani and Manucho.

Classic Glenn.

Stimulus Package wrote:

Batman wrote:Amos, Gibson, Manucho, Eckersley, Evans, Chester, Campbell, Anderson, Nani, Fabio, Rafael, Welbeck, Macheda and Possebon are all 21 or younger except for Nani and Manucho.

Classic Glenn.

Gave it away with specific references to his two favourite players

These are brilliant.

All we need now is for Batman to post a picture of himself...

Rather silly stuff. The usual suck up merchants quick to jump on board makes me smile however

Batman wrote:The Ajax team of 1995 only contained 1 top player and he has only reached his peak while at Manchester United under the greatest manager of all time.

Fucking hell when did Paisley manage U*d, i cant believe i missed that.

Helmut Schön? Ernst Happel? Rinus Michels?[/u]

Ernst "kein kelul" Happel

West Ham the best home grown academy, the big four can just go out and buy what ever world kids they want.

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Parks lives wrote:That poster is not the actual Batman Kas.

whatever dude

L r-d wrote:whatever dude

Love the way you edited your post from last month glenn. Thanks for Otto though

Go to bed mate

Di Caniooooo! wrote:West Ham the best home grown academy, the big four can just go out and buy what ever world kids they want.

It used to have but now in my opinion (which im sure you will think counts for nothing cos its biast ) its us mate. Although i have been impressed with a few of your youngsters this season like Collison.

Richards, SWP, Ireland, Johnson, Onuoha, Sturridge, Evans, Kelvin Etuhu, Logan and Schmeichel are all still at the club and in and around the first team. Whilst the likes of Barton, Dixon Etuhu, Tyrone Mears, Ishmael Miller, Willow Flood, Glenn Whelan and Chris Killen are all playing in the Premiership or at decent European clubs (Mears, Killen & Flood). Then there is Jordan, Elliott, BWP and Croft who have al made careers for themselves in the championship. Plus there are mnay others that have played for the first team and then dropped down to lower levels like Shuker, Dunfield, Williamson and D'Laryea.

Overall 26 players have come through the academy to play for the first team. Out of those 21 have gone on to play championship or above quality football. Plus we have many more coming through, we won the Youth Cup last season and our current u18s have been exceptional this season winning their league without losing a game. I think the likes of Weiss, Mcdermott, Mak, Nimley, McGivern and Mee amongst others all have the potential to break through and become quality players. McGivern is already a full Northern Ireland international without yet making his first team debut for us.

Anyway the future it bright thanks to the legend that is Jim Cassell

Sgoater1 wrote:

Di Caniooooo! wrote:West Ham the best home grown academy, the big four can just go out and buy what ever world kids they want.

It used to have but now in my opinion (which im sure you will think counts for nothing cos its biast ) its us mate. Although i have been impressed with a few of your youngsters this season like Collison.

Richards, SWP, Ireland, Johnson, Onuoha, Sturridge, Evans, Kelvin Etuhu, Logan and Schmeichel are all still at the club and in and around the first team. Whilst the likes of Barton, Dixon Etuhu, Tyrone Mears, Ishmael Miller, Willow Flood, Glenn Whelan and Chris Killen are all playing in the Premiership or at decent European clubs (Mears, Killen & Flood). Then there is Jordan, Elliott, BWP and Croft who have al made careers for themselves in the championship. Plus there are mnay others that have played for the first team and then dropped down to lower levels like Shuker, Dunfield, Williamson and D'Laryea.

Overall 26 players have come through the academy to play for the first team. Out of those 21 have gone on to play championship or above quality football. Plus we have many more coming through, we won the Youth Cup last season and our current u18s have been exceptional this season winning their league without losing a game. I think the likes of Weiss, Mcdermott, Mak, Nimley, McGivern and Mee amongst others all have the potential to break through and become quality players. McGivern is already a full Northern Ireland international without yet making his first team debut for us.

Anyway the future it bright thanks to the legend that is Jim Cassell

I'm not as close minded as you think, good points, though aside from Collison, Sears, Tompkins and Noble, I can use the names of Cole, Lampard, Ferdinand and several other names.

Di Caniooooo! wrote:

Sgoater1 wrote:

Di Caniooooo! wrote:West Ham the best home grown academy, the big four can just go out and buy what ever world kids they want.

It used to have but now in my opinion (which im sure you will think counts for nothing cos its biast ) its us mate. Although i have been impressed with a few of your youngsters this season like Collison.

Richards, SWP, Ireland, Johnson, Onuoha, Sturridge, Evans, Kelvin Etuhu, Logan and Schmeichel are all still at the club and in and around the first team. Whilst the likes of Barton, Dixon Etuhu, Tyrone Mears, Ishmael Miller, Willow Flood, Glenn Whelan and Chris Killen are all playing in the Premiership or at decent European clubs (Mears, Killen & Flood). Then there is Jordan, Elliott, BWP and Croft who have al made careers for themselves in the championship. Plus there are mnay others that have played for the first team and then dropped down to lower levels like Shuker, Dunfield, Williamson and D'Laryea.

Overall 26 players have come through the academy to play for the first team. Out of those 21 have gone on to play championship or above quality football. Plus we have many more coming through, we won the Youth Cup last season and our current u18s have been exceptional this season winning their league without losing a game. I think the likes of Weiss, Mcdermott, Mak, Nimley, McGivern and Mee amongst others all have the potential to break through and become quality players. McGivern is already a full Northern Ireland international without yet making his first team debut for us.

Anyway the future it bright thanks to the legend that is Jim Cassell

I'm not as close minded as you think, good points, though aside from Collison, Sears, Tompkins and Noble, I can use the names of Cole, Lampard, Ferdinand and several other names.

Dicano, were talking about the present not that past.

Seeing how they're still playing...

Di Caniooooo! wrote:Seeing how they're still playing...

In the topic we are discussing recent player breakthroughs.
That's like saying Uniteds academy is the best in the world because they produced Beckham,Giggs,Scholes,Butt and the Neville brothers.

The 2 best players in the world right now are Steven Gerrard and Michael Owen, they both came from the Liverpool academy.

Rafa is a genius for nurturing them to the players they are today.

The 50+ kids Rafa has signed because Rafa never signs flops.

Man City just pip West Ham if we're talking about the last 4/5 years.

West Ham have some bloody good talent coming through though. Collison looks as though he could develop into a top class player. nolbe is continuing to develop into a very accomplished CM and Tompkins looks a great CB. I've also heard good things about Sears, although i haven't really seen enough of him to comment yet.

Aston Villa don't have too shabby an academy either.