Should Lampard be in Chelsea's first team?

The guy is clearly a very useful player but he is a system player to take advantage of his style.

Chelsea's style of play has been designed around him, with Drogba up front and Lampard being allowed to effectively act as a very deep lying striker.

But no they have Sheva, a man that relies on running onto through balls - something Lampard isn't renowned for. So to get the best out of Sheva, Ballack should play as the attacking midfielder.

But this means dropping Lampard back to a deeper position. But can he do this? You are taking the way the best part of his game and IMO Essien will come on leaps and bounds this season and can really make big strides towards making the WC player list....

IMO a midfield three at Chelsea should consist of Maka-Essien-Ballack.

Do YOU think Lampard should keep his first team place or be dropped for the sake of new tactics and a better style of football?

if they want to conquer europe.... play great football and get the best out of their strikers the answer is very simple for me

COTR wrote:if they want to conquer europe.... play great football and get the best out of their strikers the answer is very simple for me

Correct answer COTR

Tweedledum wrote:

COTR wrote:if they want to conquer europe.... play great football and get the best out of their strikers the answer is very simple for me

Correct answer COTR

ull have to make your questions a bit more difficult in the future tweedle

I hope frank plays today in a 4-4-2... will give us a great chance (watch as he proves me wrong and scores a hat trick )

frank does not possess the ability to slice teams open with his passing, hes reluctant to do any defending, doesn't have lightening pace, for that matter struggles to have tortoise pace.

What he can do is shoot, when on form he hits the target with a fantastic regularity but when not on form like in the world cup hes virtually invisible, hence why i believe him to be a luxury player

Should be used as an impact player for England, to try and get us a goal when we're struggling. Likewise with Chelsea, who have better options now.

I think they've got to see how Ballack plays.

Lampard has played far too well for Chelsea in the last few years to just be dropped.

Lampard doesnt need to win his place in the team he`s already done that, its Ballack who has to win his place in the team.

Exactly....people talk about Ballack like he's already proven in the league. Quoting the Lampard shots to goals ratio at the world cup....how many did Ballack score at the world cup?

Ballack played in a different role for the Mannschaft at the WC. Together with Frings, he played in the DMC position. While this weakened his goal threat, it helped the team greatly, because he stabilised the defence and still had quite a few great passes / assists to offer. It was up to the strikers to score, and they did.
Ballack had a good world cup.

He did have more shots than Lampard though

Most of those shots were in the match against Sweden, when we were leading 2:0, and controlling the match quite comfortably. Not saying that he should not have scored one of those shots at least, but it was not his main task at this WC.

Tweedledum wrote:The guy is clearly a very useful player but he is a system player to take advantage of his style.

Chelsea's style of play has been designed around him, with Drogba up front and Lampard being allowed to effectively act as a very deep lying striker.

But no they have Sheva, a man that relies on running onto through balls - something Lampard isn't renowned for. So to get the best out of Sheva, Ballack should play as the attacking midfielder.

But this means dropping Lampard back to a deeper position. But can he do this? You are taking the way the best part of his game and IMO Essien will come on leaps and bounds this season and can really make big strides towards making the WC player list....

IMO a midfield three at Chelsea should consist of Maka-Essien-Ballack.

Do YOU think Lampard should keep his first team place or be dropped for the sake of new tactics and a better style of football?

hmm...people in germany are saying the opposite..should ballack be in the starting line up or is he just a backup for lampard...who has an amazing reputation here...

grass is greener sort of thing...

Lampard has a reputation in Germany?

Did they not seem him at the Wc then?

Tweedledum wrote:Lampard has a reputation in Germany?

Did they not seem him at the Wc then?

To be more precise: Before the WC, Lampard had quite a reputation in Germany.

blutgraetsche wrote:

Tweedledum wrote:Lampard has a reputation in Germany?

Did they not seem him at the Wc then?

To be more precise: Before the WC, Lampard had quite a reputation in Germany.

so does everyone also think ronaldinho is rubbish?

one bad tournament doent change a thing, a LOT of people in germany think ballack is overated and that lampard is way better in the same way a lot of people in england think the opposite

Tweedledum wrote:Lampard has a reputation in Germany?

Did they not seem him at the Wc then?

why shouldnt he have?..if you only see a player once or twice a year and in those games that player plays great (lampard against bayern for instance)..then you are bound to think highly of him...pretty similar to the reason for ballacks reputation in england..(did ballack perform at the world cup by the way?)

ive just read through a german forum where people are saying it doesnt suprise them that ballack..the this diving and moaning weakling..only lasted a few minutes in his first game...that hes the most overated player in the world etc...that he wont last long in england..etc..etc...etc...

its perfectly normal to think that others are better if you only see them once in a while or see highlights of them doing great things...they showed highlights here on tv yesterday and lampard looked great..