Wednesday Match Thread

Big day for certain clubs...
Wednesday, 06 December 2006
AC Milan v Lille, 19:45
Anderlecht v AEK Athens, 19:45
Dynamo Kiev v Real Madrid, 19:45
FC Copenhagen v Celtic 19:45
FC Porto v Arsenal 19:45
Hamburg v CSKA Moscow, 19:45
Lyon v Steaua Bucuresti, 19:45
Man Utd v Benfica, 19:45

Group E

Lyon will finish top with Real in 2nd.

Group F

All dependent on the utd-Benfica tie, utd only need a draw to progress, if Benfica win they progress and top spot in dependent on how Celtic do against Copenhagen.

Group G

If Porto and Arsenal draw, they both go through, not entirely sure how this works though.

CSKA HAVE to win to progress and rely on a winner in the other game

Group H

Milan will finish top, AEK need a point in Anderlecht and need AC to beat Lille... - this is a toughy to predict, not sure who I see getting the 2nd spot here.

Then by 10pm GMT tonight we'll all know the final 16 tleft in the Champs league.

Am I right in thinking the draw for the 2nd round is on Friday?

Week Friday, isn't it?

Bit annoying that.

Is that because they have to wait for the UEFA cup results?

Fooking gay, suppose it gives us plenty of time to draw up the 'ideal team to face in the next round' lists

I just want them to give us Barca right now so I can begin my campain of smugness.

You reckon you'd still beat them when they have Messi and Eto'o back?

Of course. Why wouldn't we?

Thats the kind of confidence I like

I'm hoping for Bayern Munich I suppose, they're the only big team likely to finish 1st that we can face....

Tinseldum wrote:Thats the kind of confidence I like

I'm hoping for Bayern Munich I suppose, they're the only big team likely to finish 1st that we can face....

I think we will qualify at the top of the group if we either win or draw tonight. As far as I can see, the only way we will finish second is if we lose and CSKA fail to get the result they need, but hopefully it won't come down to that.

Oh crap, really?

That puts some better teams in the mix then...

I bet we get Barca

Tinseldum wrote:Oh crap, really?

That puts some better teams in the mix then...

I bet we get Barca

I think so, and I just had a look on the BBC and it says this:

Arsenal are guaranteed a place in the knockout stages if they get at least a draw in Portugal. They can only fail if they lose this match and CSKA Moscow win away to Hamburg. The Gunners will win the group, providing they are not defeated in this game.

FC Porto will top the group with a victory. They also need at least a draw to be guaranteed a place in the Champions League knockout phase. Like Arsenal, a defeat will also suffice as long as CSKA Moscow do not win in Germany.

Snowbispo wrote:Of course. Why wouldn't we?

I definitely don't want Liverpool... not because they are a good football team, but because they seem to be experts at destroying other teams rythm..

Its called anti-football oleguer

Tinseldum wrote:Its called anti-football oleguer

Just trying to be polite and thereby avoid another "Kaká vs Ronaldinho" or "Barcelona are boring" thread

Sheffield gunner wrote:

Tinseldum wrote:Oh crap, really?

That puts some better teams in the mix then...

I bet we get Barca

I think so, and I just had a look on the BBC and it says this:

Arsenal are guaranteed a place in the knockout stages if they get at least a draw in Portugal. They can only fail if they lose this match and CSKA Moscow win away to Hamburg. The Gunners will win the group, providing they are not defeated in this game.

FC Porto will top the group with a victory. They also need at least a draw to be guaranteed a place in the Champions League knockout phase. Like Arsenal, a defeat will also suffice as long as CSKA Moscow do not win in Germany.

I like tables myself. This doesn't make sense.

Porto win, CSKA win: Porto (1) & CSKA (2)
Porto win, CSKA don't win: Porto (1) & Arsenal (2)
Porto/Arsenal draw: Arsenal (1) & Porto (2)
Arsenal win, CSKA win: Arsenal (1) & CSKA (2)
Arsenal win, CSKA don't win: Arsenal (1) & Porto (2)

correct ?

Spot on toon

i want to draw liverpool so we can kick thier asses and show them how football should be played. we should but 2/3 past them at the nou camp and nick 1 at anfield

Poor deluded Barca fans, ignoring the fact both teams who play a physical, pressing game in midfield with quality have battered you this season. Played off the park against Madrid and bamboozled twice against Chelsea.

We could get Gary Mac out of retirement and still waltz any tie against your brand of circus football.

Oli,

Don't kid yourself. There's nothing more anti-football than cheating and relying on penalties to shape your results. Fortunately the European refs appear to be off your payroll. Shame we can't say the same about last seasons final.

Snowbispo wrote:Poor deluded Barca fans, ignoring the fact both teams who play a physical, pressing game in midfield with quality have battered you this season. Played off the park against Madrid and bamboozled twice against Chelsea.

Um, that's why Oleguer said we wouldn't like to face you, because you have the ability to be physical and disrupt our game like those two teams did.

Snowbispo wrote: We could get Gary Mac out of retirement and still waltz any tie against your brand of circus football.

Considering your hatred of hype and arrogance, are you therefore a self-contradiction?

Snowbispo wrote:
Oli,

Don't kid yourself. There's nothing more anti-football than cheating and relying on penalties to shape your results. Fortunately the European refs appear to be off your payroll. Shame we can't say the same about last seasons final.

Maybe once Sheikh Mohammed takes over you can also ask him for some cash to pay the European refs.

Um, that's why Oleguer said we wouldn't like to face you, because you have the ability to be physical and disrupt our game like those two teams did.

not quite what obi meant though. ole was saying it is anti football, obi is calling it midfield quality. there is a massive difference here. plus anyone still trying to say we play anti football is clearly not worth bothering over.

Considering your hatred of hype and arrogance, are you therefore a self-contradiction?

obi has a little agenda going with barca here.. best to keep uo the facade

Maybe once Sheikh Mohammed takes over you can also ask him for some cash to pay the European refs.

yes that would be very very nice.

I don't know what these Spaniards are talking about?

Liverpool play some truly stunning carpet football*

* I have been known to overhype and lie in equal degrees

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. ole was saying it is anti football, obi is calling it midfield quality. there is a massive difference here. plus anyone still trying to say we play anti football is clearly not worth bothering over.

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I don't really care what we call it, what I meant is that your midfield, like Chelsea's, is not meant to keep possession, it is a tool to stress the opponent and release the ball to the attacking players.. call it what you want..

I don't think liverpool play phyical football with a midfield of Gerread,Sissoko,Alonso and Pennent that not a vey stronge (physically) midfield IMO.

and we gave as good as we got against chelsea in the Nou camp so this phyically crap doesn't really matter the teams the do well against us are the teams the close us down in midfield see Sevilla. so bring on inter,Liverpool are who ever the team that i don't want to play is Lyon and Bayern because the really press in the middle of the field

Messiah wrote: the teams the do well against us are the teams the close us down in midfield see Sevilla.

And Real Madrid, of course...

Bolton would destroy you

Messiah wrote:I don't think liverpool play phyical football with a midfield of Gerread,Sissoko,Alonso and Pennent that not a vey stronge (physically) midfield IMO.

...Yeah...

Tinseldum wrote:Bolton would destroy you

Funny you mentioned that, because a few days ago I was thinking the exact same thing - if Bolton finished in the top 4 this year and reached next year's CL, I sure as hell wouldn't want them in our group.

kas wrote:

Tinseldum wrote:Bolton would destroy you

Funny you mentioned that, because a few days ago I was thinking the exact same thing - if Bolton finished in the top 4 this year and reached next year's CL, I sure as hell wouldn't want them in our group.

At the Reebok there'd probably kill you all.

At the Nou Camp there have about 4 players sent off.

No doubt our players wouldn't even try to stay on their feet. We'd probably need multiple stretchers at the ground too.

Santi-Claus wrote:

Messiah wrote: the teams the do well against us are the teams the close us down in midfield see Sevilla.

And Real Madrid, of course...

Yeah aFranco Madrid not very Phyically in midfield that day they just closed us down very well, so i don't know where people get this idea that we can't play against Physical teams.

Tweedle, you should change the title of this to the 06/12 matchday thread.

Also, my signature isn't working