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    Post by DD Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:46 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:1. Ronaldinho

    2. Kaka

    3. Eto'o


    Drogba, little Ronaldo and Essien just miss out.


    Agendas.

    Ronaldo this season definately deserves to be in the top 3 for me.

    Another HUGE omission is Darren Bent Exclamation

    Not agendas - Ronaldo is decent(ish) in CL but nowhere near the level of the 3 I've mentioned.
    ok
    as good as he0s tearing up the EPL , he's nowhere in the same region in the CL - whereas these three have done it it already at the biggets stage.
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    Post by Rez Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:02 pm

    DD wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:
    Pierre Littbarski wrote:1. Ronaldinho

    2. Kaka

    3. Eto'o


    Drogba, little Ronaldo and Essien just miss out.


    Agendas.

    Ronaldo this season definately deserves to be in the top 3 for me.

    Another HUGE omission is Darren Bent Exclamation

    Not agendas - Ronaldo is decent(ish) in CL but nowhere near the level of the 3 I've mentioned.
    ok
    as good as he0s tearing up the EPL , he's nowhere in the same region in the CL - whereas these three have done it it already at the biggets stage.

    Ok lets look at it this way over the past year:

    Performed for country - 1) Ronaldo 2) Kaka 3) Eto 4) Ronaldinho

    Performed in the League - 1)Ronaldo 2) Ronaldinho 3) Kaka 4) Eto

    Performed in the CL) 1) Kaka 2) Ronaldo 3) Ronaldinho 4) Eto

    So on this years performances Ronaldo has been the best player overall. I think most people would accept the above as being true.
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    Post by Machiavel Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:05 pm

    @ Rez

    People forget that Ronaldo is 8th highest goalscorer in Portugal's history

    amazing for his country , last season signs of improving in Europe were coming to the party

    plus he has 3 years on Kaka and 4 on Ronaldinho

    He will be no1 SOON Ale

    15 GOALS away from Figo who is 3rd !

    Ronaldo is 22 .. so he will , should ? overtake the LEGEND ??
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    Post by Luso Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:12 pm

    numerus xiv wrote:@ Rez

    People forget that Ronaldo is 8th highest goalscorer in Portugal's history

    amazing for his country , last season signs of improving in Europe were coming to the party

    plus he has 3 years on Kaka and 4 on Ronaldinho

    He will be no1 SOON Ale

    15 GOALS away from Figo who is 3rd !

    Ronaldo is 22 .. so he will , should ? overtake the LEGEND ??

    On this debate, and considering the rate at which he scores for Portugal - games to goals ratio - it's acknowledged that Ronaldo may become Portugal's all-time top scorer.

    It'll be a difficult for him to achieve this considering his position, but age is on his side, and hopefully good health.
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    Post by Calidad Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:16 pm

    I'm starting to think Iniesta is the most underrated player on the planet!!! Dominated Milan, Argentina, Arsenal, Benfica, England etc. Has played CM, AM & RM this season. Not in the top 50? Pffff
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    Post by Guest Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:18 pm

    Calidad wrote:I'm starting to think Iniesta is the most underrated player on the planet!!! Dominated Milan, Argentina, Arsenal, Benfica, England etc. Has played CM, AM & RM this season. Not in the top 50? Pffff

    The son of god yet he doesn't make the top 50.
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    Post by Murray Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:18 pm

    Marcotti has lost the plot, he must have been living in England too long and the media hype has started to rot his brain.

    Flumps at 16
    Gerrard at 7 lol! lol! lol!
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    Post by 110% Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:20 pm

    DD wrote:@110%

    Alex proved in it in the league and in the CL - like no CB has done in ages. Singlehandledly slaying Arsenal along the way.

    THe league might be 'easier' but as soon as Alex was injured (only two months btw) PSV's crumbled like a house of cards during a hurricane.

    Defensively Alex might be the pefect defender: on the ball, position, vision, heading tackling etc - the only thing people might nag is his speed, which is not slow, but simply not a sprinter.
    Offensively he can be better than most fullnacks that are only rated for their attack. can put a cross in, side plitting passes, makes set pieces (freekick goals), immaculate header of set pieces, can jump extremely high, simply amazing foot technique for a defender (even for a brazilian defender), attack build up and what not.

    Saying he was inan easier league only confirms that you weren't paying attention to the CL. Which he was the best defender in the group stages and second round.

    Some youtubes to seal the deal (all from this year):
    Freekick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56wmjMayx6Q 110.6km/hr!!!
    CL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgdYipf3Zzo
    Amazing goal would make strikers jealous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC8g66Qy5NM

    I remember gerrard running past him and scoring Wink

    Not saying he wasn't right up there, just that I think Ramos has been a bit better and offers more to the team. In truth they are all pretty close, and ramos is a personal preference for me. Obviously alex in the udcth leage is a personal preference for you. Anyway I'm looking forward to seeing alex next year in the EPL.
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    Post by 110% Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:25 pm

    what about villa??
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    Post by Rez Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:29 pm

    Calidad wrote:I'm starting to think Iniesta is the most underrated player on the planet!!! Dominated Milan, Argentina, Arsenal, Benfica, England etc. Has played CM, AM & RM this season. Not in the top 50? Pffff

    Fletcher dominated Arsenal, Roma, Milan, italy, France, Liverpool and Chelsea. played RB, RM, LM, DM, CM & AM this season. You dont see anyone campaigning for him to be in the list Razz

    You're right; pale sick looking boy is underrated.
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    Post by Formerly known as sheva7 Fri Jun 22, 2007 3:40 pm

    He is right about Tevez.

    Not mentioning Carvalho, Deco, Quaresma and Alex is ridiculous.

    Malouda, Beckham, Gerrard, LAMPARD and TORRES and fat Ronaldo are too high.

    Vila and Drogba should be better ranked, they are among the top ten for sure. Diego is too low as well.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:42 pm

    Never realised Deco wasn't in this. Laughing

    He certainly does seem to like his media favourites.
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    Post by A & K Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:46 pm

    Bear in mind that everyone's has his own judgment and preferences. It's not because one individual says his own point of view that it is automatically true and contestable. Only his first players (not necessarily in correct order) represent the best 4 in the world; the rest is debatable.
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:50 pm

    Alive and Kicking wrote:Only his first players (not necessarily in correct order) represent the best 4 in the world; the rest is debatable.

    Agree with that. ok
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    Post by Sgoater1 Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:53 pm

    Berbatov at 25, Lampard at 16 and Tevez at 8 are overrated. Also no Toni, Klose, Carvalho, Deco, Chivu or Alex surprise's me, whilst i think Ibrahimovic should be better than 17th.


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    Post by Luis Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:54 pm

    who gives a $h!t about the order, end of the day if you were asked to name the current top 50 players in the world, nearly all them would be included
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    Post by Parks lives Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:58 pm

    Doing a top 50 is to hard anyway.

    Maybe a top 10 or 20.
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    Post by S4P Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:20 pm

    Drogba 22
    Eto'o 4

    lol!
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    Post by Rosicky Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:26 pm

    no RVP Laugh
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:31 pm

    16. Frank Lampard (Chelsea)

    Let’s let the numbers do the talking, shall we? He has missed five league games in the past six seasons at Chelsea, while hitting double figures in league goals in each of the past four. Plus, he never slows down and is genuinely adored by his team-mates. What more do you want?

    FFS he can't go fast enough to slow down
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    Post by shazlx Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:04 pm

    My 50 - in no particular order.

    Petr Cech
    Gigi Buffon
    Iker Casillas

    Lúcio
    Alex
    Javier Zanetti
    Rio Ferdinand
    William Gallas
    Ricardo Carvalho
    Cristian Chivu
    Miguel
    Gianluca Zambrotta
    Willy Sagnol
    Alessandro Nesta

    Steven Gerrard
    Michael Essien
    Florent Malouda
    Rino Gattuso
    Andrés Iniesta
    Juninho Pernambucano
    Paul Scholes
    Daniele De Rossi
    Dejan Stankovic
    Van Der Vaart
    Andrea Pirlo
    Mahamadou Diarra
    Esteban Cambiasso
    Michael Ballack
    Cesc Fabregas

    Miroslav Klose
    Hernán Jorge Crespo
    Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
    Jefferson Farfan
    Robin Van Persie
    David Villa
    Andriy Shevchenko
    Ronaldo
    Didier Drogba
    Zlatan Ibrahimovic
    Thierry Henry
    Wayne Rooney
    Francesco Totti
    Leo Messi
    Carlos Tevez
    Ruud van Nistelrooy
    Samuel Eto’o
    Cristiano Ronaldo
    Ronaldinho
    Kaka
    Quaresma
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    Post by lampiao007 Sat Jun 23, 2007 2:26 pm

    Is that list based on what?(Marcoti's list I mean). The leagues that you can see highlights after a weekend on the Cider?
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