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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:43 pm

    He's get battered in training[/img]
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    Post by Mulletmassive Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:44 pm

    parks lives wrote:
    BilalShah wrote:Is he going on loan ?

    No. I was just saying if he did go on loan, someone like Bolton would be ideal, so he could beef up.

    Botlon do have excellent training facilities.
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    Post by DS Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:44 pm

    I prefer him to stay , this could be his season.
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:46 pm

    Mulletmassive wrote:
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    BilalShah wrote:Is he going on loan ?

    No. I was just saying if he did go on loan, someone like Bolton would be ideal, so he could beef up.

    Botlon do have excellent training facilities.

    Yeah, I saw Sky go around them and interview the likes of Gary Speed.

    Said going to Bolton has added years onto his career.

    Big Sam loves his opta stuff as well.
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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:49 pm

    So about the Amsterdam tournement Parky did you see Foster come off the bench and make those saves against Porto, great stuff, looks very promising to me
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:53 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:So about the Amsterdam tournement Parky did you see Foster come off the bench and make those saves against Porto, great stuff, looks very promising to me

    Foster is excellent. Looked great against Celtic too.

    I hope we fuck West Brom and Kuscsyak off and keep Foster at the club.
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    Post by Netsanet Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:53 pm

    Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?
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    Post by Mulletmassive Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:53 pm

    parks lives wrote:
    Mulletmassive wrote:
    parks lives wrote:
    BilalShah wrote:Is he going on loan ?

    No. I was just saying if he did go on loan, someone like Bolton would be ideal, so he could beef up.

    Botlon do have excellent training facilities.

    Yeah, I saw Sky go around them and interview the likes of Gary Speed.

    Said going to Bolton has added years onto his career.

    Big Sam loves his opta stuff as well.

    I don't have sky so I have not actually seen them, but have have certainly read about how great they are. you can see while Big Sam often signs quality players.
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    Post by DS Mon Aug 07, 2006 2:58 pm

    I think the main thing is experience , Foster has had a very good season but in the championship now he needs games at the top level and wont get them at United.
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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:00 pm

    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future
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    Post by Netsanet Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:03 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future

    So where will Howard will end up? He is on loan at Everton and I still think he will make it with a run of first team football.
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    Post by Mulletmassive Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:05 pm

    Netsanet wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future

    So where will Howard will end up? He is on loan at Everton and I still think he will make it with a run of first team football.

    Whats happened to Richard Wright?
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    Post by Tom Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:07 pm

    hes shite?
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    Post by Netsanet Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:08 pm

    Mulletmassive wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future

    So where will Howard will end up? He is on loan at Everton and I still think he will make it with a run of first team football.

    Whats happened to Richard Wright?

    I expect him to start many games. He is not there to warm the bench.
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    Post by Mulletmassive Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:13 pm

    Netsanet wrote:
    Mulletmassive wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future

    So where will Howard will end up? He is on loan at Everton and I still think he will make it with a run of first team football.

    Whats happened to Richard Wright?

    I expect him to start many games. He is not there to warm the bench.

    Wright or Howard?
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:14 pm

    There are basically three different types of attributes for a footballer - athletic, technical and tactical. Fletcher is technically decent - good touch, very good ability to weight a pass correctly, rarely gives the ball away. Tactically he's very sound - excellent positioning and movement for such a young lad, good awareness of how he fits into the team and when and where to cover for others.

    Athletically he's got a problem or two. Lacks upper body strength, can be hussled off the ball a bit easily, bit weak in the air, no real pace. If he develops these attributes then he's a got great chance of being a fine player for Man U. But he's got about two years to do it.
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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:15 pm

    Netsanet wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future

    So where will Howard will end up? He is on loan at Everton and I still think he will make it with a run of first team football.

    Don't know he will increase his value at Everton and depending on his performances he will either be sold to make a profit or kept as first choice.

    It's keeping your options open so we are not in desperate need of a Keeper like last time with Taibi and Barthez and Bosinic after Schmiechal left.

    Howard is the most naturaly talented of the three but is a confidence player and you can't be a keeper with tah mentality at a big club

    Kuszchak is the better bet for the number 1 slot in my opinion

    You an Arsenal supporter?
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    Post by Netsanet Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:16 pm

    Howard
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:17 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:There are basically three different types of attributes for a footballer - athletic, technical and tactical. Fletcher is technically decent - good touch, very good ability to weight a pass correctly, rarely gives the ball away. Tactically he's very sound - excellent positioning and movement for such a young lad, good awareness of how he fits into the team and when and where to cover for others.

    Athletically he's got a problem or two. Lacks upper body strength, can be hussled off the ball a bit easily, bit weak in the air, no real pace. If he develops these attributes then he's a got great chance of being a fine player for Man U. But he's got about two years to do it.

    Yep, if Senna comes in then Fletcher will be mainly be a first choice sub this season.

    However given Scholes and Senna's age he should be pushing both of them hard and considering we have other youngsters like David Jones and Darren Gibson coming through, he's time is short.
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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:18 pm

    saintgoingmarching wrote:There are basically three different types of attributes for a footballer - athletic, technical and tactical. Fletcher is technically decent - good touch, very good ability to weight a pass correctly, rarely gives the ball away. Tactically he's very sound - excellent positioning and movement for such a young lad, good awareness of how he fits into the team and when and where to cover for others.

    Athletically he's got a problem or two. Lacks upper body strength, can be hussled off the ball a bit easily, bit weak in the air, no real pace. If he develops these attributes then he's a got great chance of being a fine player for Man U. But he's got about two years to do it.

    Good post, although i think at times his the way Fletcher looks on the ball that catches people's eye and why he is slated by many United fan's (note: Nutters) He isn't the most graceful player but has tons of potential.

    Actually i don't think he is that slow once he gets going quicker then Scholes i'd say he just lacks acceleration which is all down to muscle strength which he can work on anyway.
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    Post by Netsanet Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:19 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:
    poiuy1 wrote:
    Netsanet wrote:Why is Fergie looking for another keeper while 2-3 years are in VDS's belt and Foster is developing as a very good keeper?

    So we don't get fucked up like last time and spend shit loads on a Barthez

    Van Der SAr is a great keeper to learn from and he will stay another 3 years including this one

    Then you have 2 quality young keepers that can fight for a place at the end of the three years. Foster will be established on loan and Kuschak has already proved his worth.

    Good plan in my book, buy a keeper now so we have two good one in the future

    So where will Howard will end up? He is on loan at Everton and I still think he will make it with a run of first team football.

    Don't know he will increase his value at Everton and depending on his performances he will either be sold to make a profit or kept as first choice.

    It's keeping your options open so we are not in desperate need of a Keeper like last time with Taibi and Barthez and Bosinic after Schmiechal left.

    Howard is the most naturaly talented of the three but is a confidence player and you can't be a keeper with tah mentality at a big club

    Kuszchak is the better bet for the number 1 slot in my opinion

    You an Arsenal supporter?

    No. I am a United fun. Why you associate me with Arsenal?
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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:24 pm

    I don't know i just guessed

    Good to have another fellow readblood on board Wink
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    Post by Netsanet Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:30 pm

    poiuy1 wrote:I don't know i just guessed

    Good to have another fellow readblood on board Wink

    Thanks and I am a redblood from Ethiopia. Arsenal is very popular here and we have got losts of supporters too.
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    Post by poiuy1 Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:33 pm

    Great its good to have a varied amount of posters from different parts of the world <Ale>
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    Post by Owen Thomas Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:52 pm

    Hahahahaha!

    We get this "Fletcher is good" crap at the start of every single season.

    He is an average player at best. What usually happens is that everyone says hes good at the start of the season and then he plays against Charlton or someone and makes 56 passes backwards/sideways and everyone says hes shit again..

    MAKE YOUR MIND UP! I have, he belongs at Charlton or somewhere, not in the Champions league and especially not on the wing Laughing
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    Post by Parks lives Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:54 pm

    Owen Thomas wrote:

    MAKE YOUR MIND UP!

    Not everyone is so inconsistent with there views.

    I've said for a long time the guy has promise, he just needs to work on a few areas, especially his strength.
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    Post by Brian2468 Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:09 pm

    Is Fletcher fergie's illegitimate son. I have never seen a player get so many games at this level to prove himself.
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    Post by Saintsar Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:16 pm

    Owen Thomas wrote:Hahahahaha!

    We get this "Fletcher is good" crap at the start of every single season.

    And throughout each season. And at the end of each season.

    He is an average player at best. What usually happens is that everyone says hes good at the start of the season and then he plays against Charlton or someone and makes 56 passes backwards/sideways and everyone says hes shit again..

    I've seen him play a dozen excellent games for United, including in the 2005 FA Cup Final when he was probably the best player on the pitch.

    MAKE YOUR MIND UP! I have, he belongs at Charlton or somewhere, not in the Champions league and especially not on the wing Laughing

    I have made my mind up - he's a useful squad player with plenty of time to improve his physical presence, speed and aggression.
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    Post by Brian2468 Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:35 pm

    I have made my mind up - he's a useful squad player with plenty of time to improve his physical presence, speed and aggression.
    .....Playing it safe......Wink....This is a good call makes sense to keep him if his salary is not hurting the team.... This also waters down the class of good british players, dont you think the bar has to be set higher.Question
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    Post by L r d Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:38 pm

    Yep, hes got potential and he has shown glimpes. But this is man utd he must show a lot more and improve a lot more. fletcher starting most games we would be in trouble he really is not up to being a regular at man utd. I can see why people rate him i can see why the majority dont rate him also.

    By the majority i mean the old trafford crowd

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