Kluijvert to Sheffield Wednesday.

Having a trial at Sheff Weds...what an amazing signing that would be

Its only an enquiry at this stage.

Ajax, Milan, Barcelona....... Sheffield Wednesday.

Up until 26 he was a terrific player but sadly it seems to have gone to waste. Shame.

Milan, Newcastle, Barca.......Sheffield Wednesday Ajax. He truely symbolizes life itself!!!

Allthough normal people wouldnt kill someone...nor rape one.

Sheffield Wednesday aren't a tiny side...it would be a step for them to try and get back to being a Premiership side. I think they are quite missed from the Premiership.

Most overrated player of our time

Ruud van Nistelrooy and Patrick Kluivert, both players born on the 1st July 1976.

Ruud is now Real Madrid's key striker after replacing Ronaldo.

Kluivert is having trials at Sheff Weds.

But at the start of their footballing careers it was Kluivert that was the better player.

Kluivert:
1994–97 ---- Ajax ---- 70 Apps, 39 Goals

van Nistelrooy:
1993–97 ---- FC Den Bosch ---- 69 Apps, 17 Goals

Where did it all go wrong?

Batman wrote:Ruud van Nistelrooy and Patrick Kluivert, both players born on the 1st July 1976.

Ruud is now Real Madrid's key striker after replacing Ronaldo.

Kluivert is having trials at Sheff Weds.

But at the start of their footballing careers it was Kluivert that was the better player.

Kluivert:
1994–97 ---- Ajax ---- 70 Apps, 39 Goals

van Nistelrooy:
1993–97 ---- FC Den Bosch ---- 69 Apps, 17 Goals

Where did it all go wrong?

It didn't.

He is the all time leading scorer for his country despite only playing until the age of 27

He has been top scorer at a major international tournament.

He has won the CL and scored the winner.

He has played for Milan.

What else could a player want ?

With respect to fans of Sheffield Wednesday, or for that matter to anyone affiliated with a side out of the Premiership top ten; when small teams manage to allure the kind of high profile individuals considered to have been world class at some point in their career - it can often have a deleterious effect.

A 'one-man team' mentality inherently develops, where a certain player becomes so reverred that all notion of teamwork or a shared strategy dissipates; so much so that on the pitch the unit becomes too dependent on a single player - leading to a rather monolithic game plan.

Of course though a player of Kluivert's calibre would be a great asset to a mid-table Championship table - even if only for the shirt sales and crowds drawn. He could even exalt the performance of the team as a whole through his sheer presence.

All I am saying is that too many clubs who land a player far beyond their standard of football slip into the belief that they'll surge up the table because of this one action alone. Sorry to be a cynic but I really doubt PK would make a measurable contribution to the Hillsborough outfit. For one he'll most likely be in the fall of his career after a season in Sheffield, secondly it's the more rugged, defensively orientated sides that prosper in English football's second tier.

But it'd definetely be interesting if this transfer came off

C.Mallory-Smythe wrote:With respect to fans of Sheffield Wednesday, or for that matter to anyone affiliated with a side out of the Premiership top ten; when small teams manage to allure the kind of high profile individuals considered to have been world class at some point in their career - it can often have a deleterious effect.

A 'one-man team' mentality inherently develops, where a certain player becomes so reverred that all notion of teamwork or a shared strategy dissipates; so much so that on the pitch the unit becomes too dependent on a single player - leading to a rather monolithic game plan.

Of course though a player of Kluivert's calibre would be a great asset to a mid-table Championship table - even if only for the shirt sales and crowds drawn. He could even exalt the performance of the team as a whole through his sheer presence.

All I am saying is that too many clubs who land a player far beyond their standard of football slip into the belief that they'll surge up the table because of this one action alone. Sorry to be a cynic but I really doubt PK would make a measurable contribution to the Hillsborough outfit. For one he'll most likely be in the fall of his career after a season in Sheffield, secondly it's the more rugged, defensively orientated sides that prosper in English football's second tier.

But it'd definetely be interesting if this transfer came off

Despite being a Kluivert fan I totally agree.

I don't expect Fowler to do well at Cardiff either - physically he is awful.

Kluivert would probably see this as an opportunity to laze about, get paid, AND get in the team every week. Maybe he would still do well but i doubt it. I don't think his heart is in it anymore.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Batman wrote:Ruud van Nistelrooy and Patrick Kluivert, both players born on the 1st July 1976.

Ruud is now Real Madrid's key striker after replacing Ronaldo.

Kluivert is having trials at Sheff Weds.

But at the start of their footballing careers it was Kluivert that was the better player.

Kluivert:
1994–97 ---- Ajax ---- 70 Apps, 39 Goals

van Nistelrooy:
1993–97 ---- FC Den Bosch ---- 69 Apps, 17 Goals

Where did it all go wrong?

It didn't.

He is the all time leading scorer for his country despite only playing until the age of 27

He has been top scorer at a major international tournament.

He has won the CL and scored the winner.

He has played for Milan.

What else could a player want ?

I meant in terms of still being classed as one of the top 10 striker in Europe. In the last 3 years he has been at Newcastle, Valencia and PSV but not made any real impact.

wow! ambitious move by Sheff Wednesday!

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

C.Mallory-Smythe wrote:With respect to fans of Sheffield Wednesday, or for that matter to anyone affiliated with a side out of the Premiership top ten; when small teams manage to allure the kind of high profile individuals considered to have been world class at some point in their career - it can often have a deleterious effect.

A 'one-man team' mentality inherently develops, where a certain player becomes so reverred that all notion of teamwork or a shared strategy dissipates; so much so that on the pitch the unit becomes too dependent on a single player - leading to a rather monolithic game plan.

Of course though a player of Kluivert's calibre would be a great asset to a mid-table Championship table - even if only for the shirt sales and crowds drawn. He could even exalt the performance of the team as a whole through his sheer presence.

All I am saying is that too many clubs who land a player far beyond their standard of football slip into the belief that they'll surge up the table because of this one action alone. Sorry to be a cynic but I really doubt PK would make a measurable contribution to the Hillsborough outfit. For one he'll most likely be in the fall of his career after a season in Sheffield, secondly it's the more rugged, defensively orientated sides that prosper in English football's second tier.

But it'd definetely be interesting if this transfer came off

Despite being a Kluivert fan I totally agree.

I don't expect Fowler to do well at Cardiff either - physically he is awful.

Yep.

He'll be wheeled out, loiter in the penalty area while the other players just optimistically lump the ball up to him.

That is, if he's still on the pitch after a much younger (and tougher) defender clobbers him whilst clearing the ball.

I get the impression he envisages it to be bit of a calm way of bowing out - dozens of opportunities, not too much exertion, numerous easy finishes to boost his goal count; and such like.

The Championship's nothing of the kind though, in fact due to the defensive mentality he'll be boxed in more and get fewer chances.

i think kluivert is truely passed it nowerdays to be honest i think with the english football been very fast and tight and rough hluivert will be a failure and not worth the money tht sheff wed will have to pay for him. On the other hand robbie fowlers scoring record evn last year when he had the chance 4 liverpool speeks for itself hes prooved himself in the english league and will be a big hand in cardiff mounting a challenge nxt season

SteGavin wrote:i think kluivert is truely passed it nowerdays to be honest i think with the english football been very fast and tight and rough hluivert will be a failure and not worth the money tht sheff wed will have to pay for him. On the other hand robbie fowlers scoring record evn last year when he had the chance 4 liverpool speeks for itself hes prooved himself in the english league and will be a big hand in cardiff mounting a challenge nxt season

3 prem goals, all penalties. not looking like a decent challenge to me mate

Hmmm. But in the Championship I am sure Kluivert would still be able to make many defenders look like mugs. If he does sign it will be very interesting to see how he gets on.

NCFC wrote:Hmmm. But in the Championship I am sure Kluivert would still be able to make many defenders look like mugs. If he does sign it will be very interesting to see how he gets on.

Why would he consider it though?

He just needs a strong minded manager to get his arse into gear.

Silver surfer wrote:

NCFC wrote:Hmmm. But in the Championship I am sure Kluivert would still be able to make many defenders look like mugs. If he does sign it will be very interesting to see how he gets on.

Why would he consider it though?

He just needs a strong minded manager to get his arse into gear.

but has anyone else shown interest in him?

Freddie Ljungberg wrote:Sheffield Wednesday aren't a tiny side...it would be a step for them to try and get back to being a Premiership side. I think they are quite missed from the Premiership.

They're the EPL equivalent of Genoa

I can't see them getting back to the EPL anytime soon, though the fact they're interested shows ambition.

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

C.Mallory-Smythe wrote:With respect to fans of Sheffield Wednesday, or for that matter to anyone affiliated with a side out of the Premiership top ten; when small teams manage to allure the kind of high profile individuals considered to have been world class at some point in their career - it can often have a deleterious effect.

A 'one-man team' mentality inherently develops, where a certain player becomes so reverred that all notion of teamwork or a shared strategy dissipates; so much so that on the pitch the unit becomes too dependent on a single player - leading to a rather monolithic game plan.

Of course though a player of Kluivert's calibre would be a great asset to a mid-table Championship table - even if only for the shirt sales and crowds drawn. He could even exalt the performance of the team as a whole through his sheer presence.

All I am saying is that too many clubs who land a player far beyond their standard of football slip into the belief that they'll surge up the table because of this one action alone. Sorry to be a cynic but I really doubt PK would make a measurable contribution to the Hillsborough outfit. For one he'll most likely be in the fall of his career after a season in Sheffield, secondly it's the more rugged, defensively orientated sides that prosper in English football's second tier.

But it'd definetely be interesting if this transfer came off

Despite being a Kluivert fan I totally agree.

I don't expect Fowler to do well at Cardiff either - physically he is awful.

Zola at Cagliari. Came at the end of his carer and lifted them from Serie B to Serie A.

Ganamos Con Ramos wrote:

Silver surfer wrote:

NCFC wrote:Hmmm. But in the Championship I am sure Kluivert would still be able to make many defenders look like mugs. If he does sign it will be very interesting to see how he gets on.

Why would he consider it though?

He just needs a strong minded manager to get his arse into gear.

but has anyone else shown interest in him?

Rumours have it Sparta did. But obviously Sheffield can and could pay much more.

I don't know what to make of this.

On one hand:

Cesc wrote:Its only an enquiry at this stage.

Ajax, Milan, Barcelona....... Sheffield Wednesday.

Up until 26 he was a terrific player but sadly it seems to have gone to waste. Shame.

Exactly!!!

Then again, under the right manager who could motivate him, he could destroy championship teams.

If I was a manager, and as a fan, I wouldnt take the risk because in agreement with the quote and everyone knows he'd probably just see it as another place to continue his non footballing related hobbies.

Although never say never!

Kluivert will never pass the test...

What a fucking waste...the closest thing Netherlands has ever gotten to MVB.

Kluivert turns down the offer of a trial.

Thank God!

This guy still has alot in the tank. He isn't even 30 yet is he??

I think hes around the 31 mark.

Oh fair dues

Still I'd be disgusted if Sheffield Wednesday came in for me

kas wrote:Kluivert turns down the offer of a trial.

...and lets be honest who can blame him?