CL draw 11.00 BST / 12.00 CET

So who do you want?

I want no Spartak, Toulouse, Fenerbahce, Crvena Zvezda (Red Star) or any of the Dinamo's for Arsenal. Wouldn't mind if Ajax drew one of these clubs.

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jonathan de guzman wrote:So who do you want?

I want no Spartak, Toulouse, Fenerbahce, Crvena Zvezda (Red Star) or any of the Dinamo's for Arsenal. Wouldn't mind if Ajax drew one of these clubs.

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You SHOULD want Dinamo Bucharest. They suck and they never will get (and never has) intro the CL.

I don't want Spartak, Toulouse and AEK for Steaua. I would love a team like BATE or Sarajevo.

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jonathan de guzman wrote:So who do you want?

I want no Spartak, Toulouse, Fenerbahce, Crvena Zvezda (Red Star) or any of the Dinamo's for Arsenal. Wouldn't mind if Ajax drew one of these clubs.

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You SHOULD want Dinamo Bucharest. They suck and they never will get (and never has) intro the CL.

I don't want Spartak, Toulouse and AEK for Steaua. I would love a team like BATE or Sarajevo.

Think there are easier opponents around. Mainly don't want Dinamo because Romanian teams tend to be hard to play against. If Arsenal have to draw 1 of the teams I don't want let it be a Dinamo or Crvena Zvezda, but I prefer Genk, Sarajevo or something like that. There are easier teams (for Arsenal) than Dinamo in the draw.

Sure there are. I'm just saying Arsenal should not have a problem with Dinamo because:

1. They choke when it comes to CL
2. They play $h!t football

BTW, I think Genk are out of the question as Sarajevo beat them 2-1 in Belgium, in the first game of the 2nd round.

Easy teams: BATE Borisov, FC Zürich, Debrecen, Rosenborg, Elfsborg, Sarajevo.

Hard teams: Fenerbahçe, AEK Athens, Sparta, Spartak, Toulouse.

The rest are between.

Hope you get who you want.

By the way: Could well be the draw will start nearly immediately (without half an hour of Cr@p beforehand). Continental Eurosport's CL draw coverage starts now & they only allocated 1/2 an hour for the program.

its immediate, leo

short speech now

DD wrote:its immediate, leo

Indeed, or without nearly

You can't get complacent about these things. But it would be a huge shock for the English teams not to qualify. They've both made it to the final in the last 2 years and I think the last English team not to make it through the qualifiers was Everton (and they don't count because they're $h!t).

Great they're going to deal with diving, cheating, etc. retrospectively (i.e. players can be punished using video-evidence for fouls missed by the ref).

Let's see if they can live up to that promise.

I just hope Levski Sofia will do a surprise again, and enter the group stage.
I'll have a chance to see few games again.

jonathan de guzman wrote:

DD wrote:its immediate, leo

Indeed, or without nearly

Its as immediate as it gets. Its all wrapped up within 30 min.
No speech, just a 5 minutes of explenation.

It starts now.

Roger Hunt wrote:You can't get complacent about these things. But it would be a huge shock for the English teams not to qualify. They've both made it to the final in the last 2 years and I think the last English team not to make it through the qualifiers was Everton (and they don't count because they're $h!t).

Absolutely. Just last year Ajax against Kopenhagen. They thought they were going to stroll through it, only to be shockingly upset (although there were own goals involved). Served them right though.

Good draw for you gone!

home: Steau Bukarest v Bare Boritsjov (likely)

Tampere United/Levski Sofia v Fc Astana/Rosenburg

I'll let DD do the updates.

Spartak Moscow against Celtic is a tough draw though!

FC SPartak Moscow v Celtic

Werder Bremen v Nk Domzale/Dynamo Zagreb

cheerio celtic

Fc Ventspils/FC Salzburg v FC Pyunik/FC Shaktar Donetsk

AFC Ajax v MSK ZUlina/Slavia Prague

this is going to be a horror draw for the big uns

Valencia CF v Debreceni/ ...

Genk/Serajevo v Dynamo Kiev

Fenerbahce v RSC Anderlecht

Poor Belgians

There are some tough games left in the draw now.

Rangers FC/FK Zeta v Crevena Zveda (red Star)/Talin

Liverpool get Toulouse

Toulouse FC/ Liverpool FC

Oh dear