nice article about foreign players in the EPL

English football under threat


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/6977939.stm

i am shocked about the statistics

in the first weekend only 37 % were english players in the starting 11

hmm would be interesting to see the german league in comparison

italy is impressive 70 % of the players are italiens

Deisler believes he's caught a real fish, then he realises it's a mutant.



Is German football under threat too?

Where the fack did all those English players come from in Spain?!

TM wrote:Where the fack did all those English players come from in Spain?!

Please tell me this was a joke.

Deano Ashton wrote:

TM wrote:Where the fack did all those English players come from in Spain?!

Please tell me this was a joke.

O dear.

It's a joke, no-one is that stupid.

Owen wrote:It's a rubbish joke, no-one is that stupid.

Owen wrote:It's a joke, no-one is that stupid.

I beg to differ. Luis is that stupid.

Our past National teams being a success they are totally full of bullshit.


Here we go again supply and demand.. The FA is hiding behind stats...... Oh and they are good these stats they paint an ugly picture showing no decent english talent coming through.......... Just another **** excuse. Another easy way out for the FA to blame their inadequacies on......

Most people could tell by turning on the TV and watching a game the the EPL has changed.....

What the FA cannot say is that this is the reason for the lack of high quality players moving into the leagues. How can they say our past players and teams were better. British teams have always sucked and this is never mentioned enough. Getting to the semi and quarter finals is fine. In the Eighties where English clubs did well in Europe there were some good players more important there were decent coaches with clubs that also had excellent systems in place like Liverpool and there top football staff.....

Spend some money on improving the quality of coaching and training the kids assholes..........Fix the problem where it is GRASSROOTS......

The most amazing thing is that people expect England to do well with McLaren in charge.

This guy would never have been employed by any of the big 4. Nor for that matter would have Taylor or Keegan after it became apparent that he is mentally unstable and doesn't understand what a defense is. Sven may have due to his good record with Lazio but even that came at a cost that the club has had trouble recovering from.

It's all Arsenal's fault.

I suspect that the club v country thing is more pronounced in England, as in more people supporting their club over their country...

http://www.fordeumicrosites.com/feelfootball/surveyresult.asp?country=gb&survey=10

Doesn't make much sense that - In Spain & Particularly Italy, you see fans putting their club 1st. It's only natural Allez.

If there were less foreigners, then it'd be a poorer quality league. Simple as.

not sure how many Spanish players in the league are Spanish from birth or naturalizations due to the agreements with the ex-colonies (Argentina etc.).

TeamSpirit™ wrote:Doesn't make much sense that - In Spain & Particularly Italy, you see fans putting their club 1st. It's only natural Allez.

If there were less foreigners, then it'd be a poorer quality league. Simple as.

I know that this tendency exists in other countries too, particularly maybe in less nationalistic Spain, but I'm not really arguing that as the main reason, just suggesting why it may among other things be a factor for why in the short term things are unlikely to change. Whatever is best for the clubs rules at the moment.

TeamSpirit™ wrote:Doesn't make much sense that - In Spain & Particularly Italy, you see fans putting their club 1st. It's only natural Allez.

If there were less foreigners, then it'd be a poorer quality league. Simple as.

I don't think this is necessarily true. You could use 'particularly' for Spain, but there are many in Italy who put the blue shirt before any club allegiance.

Deano Ashton wrote:

TM wrote:Where the fack did all those English players come from in Spain?!

:doh: Please tell me this was a joke.

Duh, well done Deano, stating the obvious!

TM wrote:

Deano Ashton wrote:

TM wrote:Where the fack did all those English players come from in Spain?!

Please tell me this was a joke.

Duh, well done Deano, stating the obvious!

That just shows how bad of a joke it was...

Plus TM isn't famed for his humour so it was well worth asking.

Sir Bobby sceptical over England's academies

Sir Bobby Charlton has questioned whether the academy system is doing anything to end the current dearth of English talent.

The Manchester United and England legend can only shake his head in dismay at the lack of emerging young players, which threatens to have a seismic effect on the national side over the coming years.

Charlton is convinced there are too many foreign players operating within the Barclays Premier League but he is also aware not enough is being done to correct the balance.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson has argued for a long time the academy system, with its strict travelling restrictions, is a disadvantage to the Old Trafford outfit.

But Charlton's view comes from a somewhat wider perspective.

'I don't know if the academy system has worked,' he said.

'It may have benefited some clubs but there is no great influx of talented young players coming into the game.'

Charlton addressed his concerns at the start of a month-long promotion of his newly-released autobiography `My Manchester United Years'.

Unlike in his own era, when Sir Alf Ramsay was able to leave prolific striker Jimmy Greaves out of his World Cup final side, Charlton accepts current coach Steve McClaren has no such luxury.

And, unless action is taken quickly, the 70-year-old United legend fears the problem will get even worse.

'If I was a football supporter, paying my money to sit behind the goal, when I looked at the programme I would like to think there would be someone local in my team,' he observed.

'Do I want to just see a list of foreign names? Do I heck.

'This is a big problem now. England are really struggling and it is an important enough issue for some kind of measures to be implemented to stop it.

'I know we are in the European Union and everyone is entitled to freedom of movement but at the very least some kind of special committee should be set up to try and find a solution.

'If you look at it, England probably has two decent strikers and if one of them gets injured, as Wayne Rooney is at the moment, we have nobody else.

'When you end up in a state like that, you have to sit back and address it.'

Ayman Zawahiri wrote:

Owen wrote:It's a joke, no-one is that stupid.

I beg to differ. Luis is that stupid.

Saints, the guy is a young man, he is smarter than a lot of guys i knew at that age.


Niave i accept, but not 'stupid'

Where were you at 17? (No matter what you say, you were niave everybody was / are )

Football Genius wrote:

Ayman Zawahiri wrote:

Owen wrote:It's a joke, no-one is that stupid.

I beg to differ. Luis is that stupid.

Saints, the guy is a young man, he is smarter than a lot of guys i knew at that age.

Yeah, but anyone looks smart compared to retards who think pointing at picture of Lucy Pinder and saying 'breasts' constitutes a conversation...

Niave i accept, but not 'stupid'

You prerogative. I was only joking anyway.

Where were you at 17? (No matter what you say, you were niave everybody was / are )

I was reading Nietzsche and quantum mechanics.

Reading Nietzsche or quantum mechanics has absolutely no bearing on being niave.

Football Genius wrote:Reading Nietzsche or quantum mechanics has absolutely no bearing on being niave.

Probably not, no...