18th/19th September CL discussion

Woooah wait

Inzaghi has 58 European Competition goals ... Ruud has 54. as of today.

Fair enough.

It still makes me laugh that Inzaghi is that high up. As a footballer he is fairly limited--but as a goalscorer...

Forza Italia!Forza Milan! wrote:Fair enough.

It still makes me laugh that Inzaghi is that high up. As a footballer he is fairly limited--but as a goalscorer...

Him and RVN are the same. Goal machines , they have their critics but they keep coming back .. the same could be said for Raul.

Just got back from the game. Very unhappy with the team. Only Malouda and Sheva can hold their heads high tonight. 35 shots, 1 goal

I thought the officials were poor. That free kick for the Rosenborg goal was an absolute disgrace. I mean it, a fucking poor decision by a very "fragile" ref.

As for the crowd, I hope everybody knows that 10,000 seats (the entire Shed End) was reserved for Rosenborg fans. The fact they only brought 2,000 doesn't make it our fault (although we still only sold 23,000 out of 31,000 which isn't good).

Ratings:

Cech 6 - Did he have a save to make?
Belletti 5 - A couple of good runs but largely ineffective.
Alex 5 - Looked shaky.
Terry 6 - Unconvincing.
A Cole 5 - Offered nothing in attack.
Makelele 5 - Time to take him out the first team.
Essien 6 - Lively but wasteful.
J Cole 5 - Was he even playing?
Malouda 9 - Energetic, played his socks off. Great ball into Sheva and and always looked for space. Should've scored.
Kalou 6 - Unlucky with his effort that hit the post, but did little else.
Shevchenko 8 - Looked much more at home tonight. Good header, some very good runs, looked to lay people off. Should've shot more but deserves a lot of credit tonight.

SWP 5
Ben Haim 5

Good to see Sheva hit 60 CL goals as well

'Chelsea will have up to 4,000 empty seats at Stamford Bridge for their Champions League tie against Rosenberg, despite reducing the cost of adult tickets to £36. (Various)'

Fucking hell they reduced the prices and got 24,900 ! thats not good.

Sgoater1 wrote:'Chelsea will have up to 4,000 empty seats at Stamford Bridge for their Champions League tie against Rosenberg, despite reducing the cost of adult tickets to £36. (Various)'

Fucking hell they reduced the prices and got 24,900 ! thats not good.

S4P wrote:10,000 seats (the entire Shed End Upper and Lower) was reserved for Rosenborg fans. The fact they only brought 2,000 doesn't make it our fault

S4P wrote:Good to see Sheva hit 60 CL goals as well

In all European Club football competition.

Raul has around 57 Champions League goals and that is the highest.

1. Raul - 57
2. RVN - 50
3. Sheva - 47

TeamSpirit™ wrote:*cough*

Dirk Kuyt works very hard

*cough*

Adebayor>>>Berbatov

Well done Ruud for 50 CL goals - at least 2 of them have been important too !

Sheva 60 in Europe !

Sheva must have nearly as many in KO stages of CL as Raul, Ruud and Henry put together - who cares if Ruud scores 3 v Helsinki and 4 v Sparta Prague in group phases ?

Cruyff is right not to give him any credit, he's $h!t.

Axeslammer wrote:

COTR wrote:

we lacked our normal workrate and only really babel, kuyt and carragher turned up but im happy

There's Dutchies performing well everywhere

Guess who ended up chatting to the only Dutchie in the pub--seriously, if I didn't know better, I'd think you lot somehow managed to slip me a subcutaneous Dutchie-magnet. [He was a Schalke fan as well, but a nice one at that ]


So... contrary to my erstwhile plans, I did end up watching the Werder game (and caught some of the Liverpool match from the corner of my eye)--not a bad game, though it became painfully apparent in the second half that you Bremers lack a decent Klose-heir. Though overall, I was pretty impressed with Werder's performance, so well done.

PS: And I'm still glad we managed to offload Vranjes on you.

Babel was shite! I don't know what Coater is talking about there. Kuyt was very goof though. The only Liverpool player that really shone. He was EASILY Liverpool's best player. Babel was one of the worst

Tweedle wrote:

TeamSpirit wrote:*cough*

Dirk Kuyt works very hard

*cough*

Adebayor>>>Berbatov

Pierre Littbarski wrote:They're similar players IMO but I believe Adebayor to be better.

He has had good performances and/or vital contributions v Man U, Chelsea and you lot - Berbatov doesn't seem to do it against the big teams and Adebayor has time on his side (3 years younger than Berba).

Tweedle wrote:Berbatov has had two seasons in which he's managed 20+ goals. Adebayor as yet hasn't. He isn't as good a finisher as Berbatov and doesn't have as good a touch. Better against big teams though, probably because of his pace

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

Pierre Littbarski wrote:They're similar players IMO but I believe Adebayor to be better.

He has had good performances and/or vital contributions v Man U, Chelsea and you lot - Berbatov doesn't seem to do it against the big teams and Adebayor has time on his side (3 years younger than Berba).

Tweedle wrote:Berbatov has had two seasons in which he's managed 20+ goals. Adebayor as yet hasn't. He isn't as good a finisher as Berbatov and doesn't have as good a touch. Better against big teams though, probably because of his pace

What I'm trying to say, although admittedly not very clearly, is that Berbatov is perhaps the classier player and has pedigree for having a high scoring season BUT Adebayor is more of a threat in the EPL, when on form at least. Adebayor when he isn't on form is a very frustrating player.

Berbatov is the better finisher, has better technique and has a better touch. Adebayor has more pace, works harder and hassles defenders more.

The >>> comparison was merely me being a WUM because TS was taking the piss out of Kuyt.

In all honesty, I don't know who I think is the best out of the three. Adebayor is in form whilst Berbatov is out of it present. Kuyt always seems to be in form, but at his most dangerous, he isn't as good as Adebayor or berbatov at their most dangerous

anglophileHedgehog wrote:

Axeslammer wrote:

COTR wrote:

we lacked our normal workrate and only really babel, kuyt and carragher turned up but im happy

There's Dutchies performing well everywhere

Guess who ended up chatting to the only Dutchie in the pub--seriously, if I didn't know better, I'd think you lot somehow managed to slip me a subcutaneous Dutchie-magnet. [He was a Schalke fan as well, but a nice one at that ]


So... contrary to my erstwhile plans, I did end up watching the Werder game (and caught some of the Liverpool match from the corner of my eye)--not a bad game, though it became painfully apparent in the second half that you Bremers lack a decent Klose-heir. Though overall, I was pretty impressed with Werder's performance, so well done.

PS: And I'm still glad we managed to offload Vranjes on you.

What a NSB'er, im sure that guy came from Enschede..or was it Youri Mulder you were talking to?

Who was playing up front with Kuyt?

S4P wrote:Who was playing up front with Kuyt?

None other than Club Legend Fernando Torres

Lucarelli's goal was good tonight. A fine diving header into the far corner. Shakhtar also had a goal wrongly ruled out for offside.

ESPN Deportes is about to show the Porto-Liverpool match. I quickly saw the stats from UEFA. I wanna see if it's true Porto mopped the floor with the Reds.

COTR wrote:

Rez wrote:@COTR

After your admirable rants about how P0-0L are now the bastion of beautiful attacking football, I was expecting to watch a masterclass in expansive football. However only one team played football tonight and it wasnt p0-0L.

Although I will give you some credit for your beautiful goal, I never get bored of watching a punt into the box, a header by a big man into the 6 yard area, then another header by an ugly man into the goal. In that one move P0-0L showed the world what the CL is about.

united bored the pants off us in nearly every away game in europe last year rez yet you still claim they played the best football in europe. who could forget the benfica, lille, celtic, copenhagen masterclasses

it was a tough game.. we got a good result while playing $h!t.. something M0-0Un0-0ed have being doing all season

COTR even you have to admit that it's quite funny that after spending hours portraying your club as a team who plays good football and owns the CL, you go and play horrible negative football, getting completely played off the park at the same time.

Last season we played the best football in England and in the CL we played great football against good teams who actually played football (we were involved in the two most exciting CL games of last season). Away from home against some of the rubbish teams, for some reason we were dragged into their dour style and were involved in some horrible matches.

In all honesty considering the circumstances 1 point is a very good result and now you should easily finish top of the group.

Ps Babel, Torres and Gerrard were absolutely dreadful.

Who the f@ck told Gerrard he's a central midfielder?

Rafa had seen enough after 12 MINUTES, he called Mascherano and told him to play in front of Gerrard. Benítez rendered the "inspirational captain" useless as central midfielder so he instructed Mascherano to provide the assists to his strikers.

Gerrard's not a bad player, but his body language spoke volumes. He was just ball watching them Porto midfielders running circles around him. It was if he knew he is not what the media made him out to be. It's not his fault though. Second half coming up, does it get worse for Liverpool?

Mascherano wasn't that much better.

Yeah, excellent goal... Boruc denied him a coupla good efforts too.

Shaktar look dangerous. I think they will knock Benfica out.

Sheffield gunner wrote:Lucarelli's goal was good tonight. A fine diving header into the far corner. Shakhtar also had a good wrongly ruled out for offside.

Sheffield gunner wrote:Blut and Chrissi would be going nuts if they listened to the Sky commentary. Whenever Diego gets the ball they keep talking about how if he impresses he might catch the eye of Real Madrid, and could earn a 'dream move.' He is playing really well though.

It´s the same over here in Germany. Everyone is already counting the days until he moves to Real Madrid.

You might be surprised to hear though that the great majority of Bremen fans are pretty relaxed with regard to Diego. We knew from the day he came to Bremen that he probably wouldn´t stay for long, and we don´t have a problem with him going to Real. After all it´s the world´s most famous football club, he could finally play together with Robinho again and Real would surely pay a decent sum for him, something around 35m+.

Apart from that I´m sure he would never act like Klose the characterless arsehole or van der verrat when he wants to leave. Diego is a very nice fellow with a good character.

Of course we hope he will stay here and extend his contract.

Diego: "It is very important that Madrid value my style"

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/champions/es/desarrollo/1037281.html


Looks like he's off next summer. Hopefully to us rather than Madrid

Parks lives wrote:Mascherano wasn't that much better.

True, very true. However, Mascherano has NEVER play the role of assisting the forwards. Rafa's expression at the end said it all, completely disgusted with Gerrard's performance, he was looking in his direction.

The positives about Liverpool is that they played very well with 10 men. Mascherano was forced to move back to his DM role, and he was his usual.

Liverpool scored their goal out of NOTHING. One dead ball and they scored. I can't believe Porto are that good. Porto made Liverpool look like Derby County out there. Unbelievable!

If Quaresma's game had a little less fantasy, and if he could just be just a little more straightforward in his approach, he'd be a monster.

kas wrote:Diego: "It is very important that Madrid value my style"

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/champions/es/desarrollo/1037281.html


Looks like he's off next summer. Hopefully to us rather than Madrid

No, you´re far too stingy.

Marseille's CL jersey is the strangest colour I've ever seen on a football shirt

24,973 pathetic chelsea, absolutely pathetic

Rosicky wrote:

S4P wrote:Who was playing up front with Kuyt?

None other than Club Legend Fernando Torres