FIFA ranking September 19th: Holland go 5th

# country points pos.diff points.diff

1 Italy 1488 2 58
2 Argentina 1451 0 -40
3 Brazil 1444 -2 -64
4 Germany 1330 1 -7
5 Holland 1246 2 35
6 France 1220 -2 -160
7 Spain 1178 1 13
8 Portugal 1169 2 12
9 England 1165 3 74
10 Croatia 1151 -4 -72
11 Czech Republic 1082 -2 -76
12 Romania 1037 1 -53
13 Mexico 1026 -2 -73
14 Scotland 1025 9 112
15 Greece 940 -1 -94
16 Poland 926 4 -15
17 Ukraine 900 -2 -102
18 USA 897 -1 -88
19 Uruguay 889 2 -34
20 Sweden 888 -1 -62

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/ranking/lastranking/gender=m/fullranking.html

I really don't understand. Portugal fares 2 miserable draws, and still goes up 2 places to 8 from 10th?
Unbelivable

lampiao007 wrote:I really don't understand. Portugal fares 2 miserable draws, and still goes up 2 places to 8 from 10th?
Unbelivable

lampiao007 wrote:I really don't understand. Portugal fares 2 miserable draws, and still goes up 2 places to 8 from 10th?
Unbelivable

It's a shite ranking (rank ranking ?), that's why and how

Protheus wrote:

lampiao007 wrote:I really don't understand. Portugal fares 2 miserable draws, and still goes up 2 places to 8 from 10th?
Unbelivable

Similarly, England play and win 2 games playing the most convincing football in about 3 years, and this is our lowest ranking in that time


God bless FIFA

lampiao007 wrote:I really don't understand. Portugal fares 2 miserable draws, and still goes up 2 places to 8 from 10th?
Unbelivable

don't forget a few mad results may have dropped off the other end

Didn't Argentina lost the Copa America to Brazil? NOT THAT I CARE, this list is beyond stupid, but Brazil ever since played 4 friendlies, and won the four.

I don't think rankings should be taken that seriously , we know which teams are doing well and on form. Still Elo > Fifa.

On Portugal's & England's ranking: apparently you get a point for each dive & a point deducted for each ball hoofed up the pitch.

Like the ELO rating system better too, current ELO ranking:

1 Brazil 2071
2 France 2002
3 Argentina 1997
4 Germany 1992
5 Italy 1988
6 Netherlands 1967
7 England 1929
8 Spain 1890
9 Mexico 1887
10 Croatia 1879
11 Romania 1877
12 Portugal 1855
13 Czechia 1844
14 Denmark 1832
15 Switzerland 1806
16 Uruguay 1796
17 Sweden 1795
18 Turkey 1794
19 Colombia 1778
20 Scotland 1767

jonathan de guzman wrote:On Portugal's & England's ranking: apparently you get a point for each dive & a point deducted for each ball hoofed up the pitch.

Like the ELO rating system better too, current ELO ranking:

1 Brazil 2071
2 France 2002
3 Argentina 1997
4 Germany 1992
5 Italy 1988
6 Netherlands 1967
7 England 1929
8 Spain 1890
9 Mexico 1887
10 Croatia 1879
11 Romania 1877
12 Portugal 1855
13 Czechia 1844
14 Denmark 1832
15 Switzerland 1806
16 Uruguay 1796
17 Sweden 1795
18 Turkey 1794
19 Colombia 1778
20 Scotland 1767

And we get also a point deducted for going to later stages of european and world cups, and a point deduction for winning versus any top20 team

Oh and i forgot we have a point deducted for being a small market and $$$$$$ does count a lot to FIFA

Why are we fifth!!! That's insane!!

Allthough Cruyff thought we played good against Albania, but the strikers were not on form

Hamburg meine Perle wrote:Why are we fifth!!! That's insane!!

Allthough Cruyff thought we played good against Albania, but the strikers were not on form

Yeah, but at his old age his starting to get more myopic. That and his agenda (+ Van Basten's) of course.

Stay the course...

Did he really say "we played well" against Albania?

He said the build up was good....but we lacked finishing

We scored TWO great goals how could he say the finishing was NOT good

Ricardo Jol wrote:We scored TWO great goals how could he say the finishing was NOT good

Shock horror, the only player who scored was the only non-ajax player (or history) on the pitch.

you forget that when the fifa ranking is renewed, not only new results are added up, but old results are thrown away.

it's easy to criticise something without proposing something better. I guess that's the best we can have as a ranking.

we won't have nothing better because it's impossible to mess the "goodness" of teams that play such different cups and qualifyings.

DD wrote:

Ricardo Jol wrote:We scored TWO great goals how could he say the finishing was NOT good

Shock horror, the only player who scored was the only non-ajax player (or history) on the pitch.

Melchiot had an Ajax past!

How the hell can we lose 7 points when we win all our games?

jonathan de guzman wrote:On Portugal's & England's ranking: apparently you get a point for each dive & a point deducted for each ball hoofed up the pitch.

Like the ELO rating system better too, current ELO ranking:

1 Brazil 2071
2 France 2002
3 Argentina 1997
4 Germany 1992
5 Italy 1988
6 Netherlands 1967
7 England 1929
8 Spain 1890
9 Mexico 1887
10 Croatia 1879
11 Romania 1877
12 Portugal 1855
13 Czechia 1844
14 Denmark 1832
15 Switzerland 1806
16 Uruguay 1796
17 Sweden 1795
18 Turkey 1794
19 Colombia 1778
20 Scotland 1767

In that case, how come Holland is in that list? seeing that you do both, and do it well.......

lampiao007 wrote:In that case, how come Holland is in that list? seeing that you do both, and do it well.......

Don't be jealous mate.
You can always look up to us for inspiration.



Anyway, we've always been perfoming very highly and get at least to the QF all tournies. We rarely lose competitive matches or friendlies.
And our worst results in 20 years were losing out on the WC02 and those dreadful insightly years under Van Basten's tutilage. Both of which, still influence our rankings, so once we get rid of those blemishes we'll shoot up the rankings again.
Not that I care about rankings really - we have the players to beat anybody in the world.
We hardly are newcomers to the scene.

How come there are no African teams in the top twenty of either list. Ghana for example, is a good team. Ghana did well in teir first apearance in tthe World Cup Finals and did well since. They have played in England twice this year and in France. Why don't European countries play African teams, especially to acclimitaise to African football and style of play. If they did the lists would be more reflective of world football.