Is Riquelme the best international player?

Say for the last four years in international football, who has better figures than Riqueleme in terms of assists and goals?

Maybe i haven't watched Argentina matches a lot, but those i have watched, he rarely ever failed to have a goal or an assist in a match mainly when he plays against Brazil, but then he destroyed them in that 3-0 win in Buenos Aires.

The guy can't seem to stop creating or scoring goals. In intenational fooball he's definitely better than anyone at the moment.

Please don't mention Eduardo Silva.

Eduardo Silva

What are Riquelme's stats for comparison? Peter Crouch has a surprisingly good record for England as well.

Healy

rza wrote:Say for the last four years in international football, who has better figures than Riqueleme in terms of assists and goals?

Maybe i haven't watched Argentina matches a lot, but those i have watched, he rarely ever failed to have a goal or an assist in a match mainly when he plays against Brazil, but then he destroyed them in that 3-0 win in Buenos Aires.

The guy can't seem to stop creating or scoring goals. In intenational fooball he's definitely better than anyone at the moment.

Please don't mention Eduardo Silva.

Well he certainly did outshine the much vaunted "best player in the World" Messi in the recent game against Chile.

He suite Argentine paerfectly, as the tactics are built to suit his sublime unique talents. Gets the best out of him.

In my mind, his substitution against Germany was a major reason why Argentina lost that match.

I would tend to agree- perhaps not over the period of 4 years though. Certainly one of the greatest players around to watch when on his game

Tweedle wrote:Eduardo Silva

What are Riquelme's stats for comparison? Peter Crouch has a surprisingly good record for England as well.

Can we please not mention small names.

I'll look for his figures, but how many games can we count that Riquleme didn't have an assist or goal? Especially the ones that don't involve Brazil.

Eduardo isn't a small name! He's already got two goals in the CL for us!

And Peter Crouch is really big! Top class striker when used correctly.

David Healy is another one. His strike rate over the last couple of years has been unbelievable

Tweedle wrote:Eduardo isn't a small name! He's already got two goals in the CL for us!

And Peter Crouch is really big! Top class striker when used correctly.

David Healy is another one. His strike rate over the last couple of years has been unbelievable

Eduardo is up there as well, but we can only really talk about him in the Euro2008.

FFS Emile Heskey gets ahead of Crouch in the England team.

Who is David Healy?

Northern Ireland striker, plays for Fulham. He is the top scorer in Euro '08 qualification and has an international strike-rate of better than a goal every two games despite playing for a weak team.

Since the germans are not around, I'll jump in with Klose (although i have no idea of his stats )

Sheffield gunner wrote:Northern Ireland striker, plays for Fulham. He is the top scorer in Euro '08 qualification and has an international strike-rate of better than a goal every two games despite playing for a weak team.

Poor Healy, how he wish he was English then ....................

Dont rate Riquelme. Dont rate many Argentinian players.

I dont like Argentina much

@ rza

Healy isn't actually that great a footballer. If he was English he wouldn't have a chance of making the squad, but for some strange reason he's been incredible for Northern Ireland and is top scorer in the Euro qualifiers

Thats cos everything is built around him.

1 decent player and 10 $h!t players will always make the 1 decent player look world class when hes anthing but

Cripps wrote:Thats cos everything is built around him.

1 decent player and 10 $h!t players will always make the 1 decent player look world class when hes anthing but

A bit like Henry with Arsenal and Gerrard with Liverpool

TRWP wrote:

rza wrote:Say for the last four years in international football, who has better figures than Riqueleme in terms of assists and goals?

Maybe i haven't watched Argentina matches a lot, but those i have watched, he rarely ever failed to have a goal or an assist in a match mainly when he plays against Brazil, but then he destroyed them in that 3-0 win in Buenos Aires.

The guy can't seem to stop creating or scoring goals. In intenational fooball he's definitely better than anyone at the moment.

Please don't mention Eduardo Silva.

Well he certainly did outshine the much vaunted "best player in the World" Messi in the recent game against Chile.

Riquelme will be telling people 10-15 years from now how lucky he was to play in the same side as Messi.

Agooner wrote:
Riquelme will be telling people 10-15 years from now how lucky he was to play in the same side as Messi.

The midget will beg Riquelme to come back to the national team so he can create goals for him and be blamed for every failure to win the WC.

rza wrote:

Agooner wrote:
Riquelme will be telling people 10-15 years from now how lucky he was to play in the same side as Messi.

The midget will beg Riquelme to come back to the national team so he can create goals for him and be blamed for every failure to win the WC.

Messi will win the world cup for Argentina in the coming years provided he stays fit.

You heard it here first.

Agooner wrote:
Messi will win the world cup for Argentina in the coming years provided he stays fit.

You heard it here first.

Yes Aguero will win it for Messi.

rza wrote:

Agooner wrote:
Messi will win the world cup for Argentina in the coming years provided he stays fit.

You heard it here first.

Yes Aguero will win it for Messi.

Walcott will frustrate both of them

Id be surprised if Argentina get out of the group stages in the next world cup.

Cripps wrote:Thats cos everything is built around him.

1 decent player and 10 $h!t players will always make the 1 decent player look world class when hes anthing but

So you're saying Riquelme is a decent player and the rest of the argentines that play with him for Argentina are $h!t?

a bit too much isn't it? Maybe average players, but $h!t? Certainly not Arsenal material but the again nobody is good enough to play there...maybe that's why they don't...

Ohh and Riquelme is far from being what you say rza

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:

Cripps wrote:Thats cos everything is built around him.

1 decent player and 10 $h!t players will always make the 1 decent player look world class when hes anthing but

So you're saying Riquelme is a decent player and the rest of the argentines that play with him for Argentina are $h!t?

a bit too much isn't it? Maybe average players, but $h!t? Certainly not Arsenal material but the again nobody is good enough to play there...maybe that's why they don't...

I think you have misunderstood me. I was talking about David Healy but i guess its an easy mistake to make as the same can be said about Argentina who arent that good

Barrilete_Cosmico wrote:Ohh and Riquelme is far from being what you say rza

Well he seems to be winning matches for Argentina than anybody else is winning matches for their own country. Surely nobody is better than him at the moment.

Riquelme is such a graceful player, wonderful to watch. Probably the cloest thing to Zidane. When Argentina last played England, he single-handlely ran the game. Unfortunately I think he is a choker, and mentally weak/fragile.

Look at this goal though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUJhkEot23U&mode=related&search=

Love the commentary too

based purely on performance for one's national side:

I don't see a better CB at Intl. level, apart from maybe Ricardo Carvalho, than Rio Ferdinand.

Miguel is definetly the best full back.

If you want to mention strikers, you won't get much better than David Healy, Nery Castillo or Michael Owen.

Cripps wrote:Thats cos everything is built around him.

1 decent player and 10 $h!t players will always make the 1 decent player look world class when hes anthing but

Argentina players are $HIT?????????? That's news for me!

Dude, they may be having problems in finals and against stronger physical teams but is undeniable that they are one of the best teams in the world right now, in fact I think that Germany and Argentina are the best teams in the world, with an a advantage to Germany since they are mentally and physically stronger.

Yes he is a very good player, however the hole fucking Argie team is built around him. So no.

Calidad wrote:Riquelme is such a graceful player, wonderful to watch. Probably the cloest thing to Zidane. When Argentina last played England, he single-handlely ran the game. Unfortunately I think he is a choker, and mentally weak/fragile.

Look at this goal though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUJhkEot23U&mode=related&search=

Love the commentary too

That probably is the last Argentina game I remember I really really enjoyed...after that there may have been some highs(serbia&montenegro, few flashes of individual brilliance in the copa america) and lows(definitely not getting into it) but nothing really great since

At least I will always have Boca to cheer me up

Riquelme is a professore!!!

lets face it guys...football nowadays has become a quick game, with mostly direct passing, one touch passing, and lots of strength...

Riquelme hasn't goat all these stuff...
BUT he is the old-fashioned no10!!!
lots of techique, control, dribbling, passing....
for me he is up there ...same class as Platini, Zidane,