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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:21 pm

    Strange season Riquelme is having so far. Yet again he hasn't been called up for the weekends match & this is his 5th game in a row he hasn't been called up.
    Apparently he`s had a few bust up`s with some team members and with Pellegrini. Roig, Villarreal president has warned him about his attitude but nothing has changed.
    A few days ago Roig renewed Pellegrini`s contract so it looks like Roig is taking the managers side. Rumours of offers for him from big european clubs are coming in, will this finally be the year he leaves ?
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:22 pm

    One for you guys? He can be absolutely brilliant..
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    Post by TM Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:23 pm

    I think Roman R has been targeted as Villarreals key player, and just been marked out of games this season. Hes nothing but an average player, when marked, otherwise we all know what he is capable of.
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:24 pm

    looks bayern bound TBH
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    Post by Oleguerisntthatbad Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:24 pm

    Target Man wrote:I think Roman R has been targeted as Villarreals key player, and just been marked out of games this season. Hes nothing but an average player, when marked, otherwise we all know what he is capable of.

    His team mates should move more then.. you can't expect a player to get rid off his markers all by himself.
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    Post by La Saeta Rubia Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:25 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:One for you guys? He can be absolutely brilliant..

    Another Argie ? I wouldn't mind having him but i seriously doubt Capello would want him Razz

    Saviola & Riquelme wearing white would be funny Very Happy

    My money is he`s going to Italy or back to Boca, i think he has a sick family member in argentina, not sure though.
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    Post by TM Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:27 pm

    Oleguerisntthatbad wrote:
    Target Man wrote:I think Roman R has been targeted as Villarreals key player, and just been marked out of games this season. Hes nothing but an average player, when marked, otherwise we all know what he is capable of.

    His team mates should move more then.. you can't expect a player to get rid off his markers all by himself.

    But they're all shit. lol
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    Post by Batman Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:29 pm

    Inter wanted him before to replace Veron
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    Post by Guest Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:31 pm

    Roman he haviing some personal issue and thus the motivation isn't their anymore, i think he that he wanted to g back to argentina at the end of the season but Inter and bayern are interested in him and he would be great for either of them because when he is on form he is only 2nd to dinho IMO.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:34 pm

    I agree with punty.

    I think Bayern may put in a serious bid for him.

    He certainly wouldn't suit the EPL.

    In la liga there are maybe a couple of teams that would be half interested.

    Juventus may try a bid in the summer, or maybe someone like Roma
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    Post by The Easter Bunny Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:36 pm

    if he went to the EPL
    he Rep would get destoryed within 10 games i think.


    to physical for him.
    maybe a move to Boca?
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    Post by Effenberg Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:47 pm

    I don't know why everybody keeps saying Bayern are interested. Uli Hoeness said last week that "Bayern would be mad to sign Riquelme!"

    Doesn't sound like interest to me. scratch
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    Post by The Pröfessör Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:15 pm

    Overrated player. Should go back to Argentina where he'll find it easier to perform.
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    Post by toon h Fri Jan 19, 2007 9:56 pm

    a few months ago he was widely named on here as one of the best 5 players around. Surely clubs must be standing in line to sign him now scratch
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    Post by Deluded F*ck™ Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:04 pm

    Has Obi seen this thread yet? Smiley

    A specialist player - can be absolutely devastating if the team is channelled through him.
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 19, 2007 10:53 pm

    TeamSpirit™️ wrote:Has Obi seen this thread yet? Smiley

    A specialist player - can be absolutely devastating if the team is channelled through him.

    I spent 2 days of this week 'debating' with some tit on RAWk about Riquelme (and to a lesser extent Deco). Apparently neither are world class and he'd rather Frank Lampard in our team.

    I despair.

    He should come to Liverpool - Rafa likes Argies ok
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    Post by Saintsar Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:13 pm

    Riquelme is a bit of a luxury player because he all he does is create and score goals. On the other hand, he's one of the best playmakers in the world in that his vision is exemplary, his ball retention excellent and he can play the sorts of passes maybe only another dozen or so players can.

    The danger is that if you put him in the side to do that, and he has an off day or happens to be well marked by the opposition, he's a liability because he does so little else.

    He's one for a brave manager who is willing to take risks with his tactics.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:19 pm

    Pompey maybe?

    Harry managed to get the best out of D'Alessandro and they're not dissimilar
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:22 pm

    Tweedle wrote:Pompey maybe?

    Sort your head out.

    Fuck sakes. There should be dozens of quality clubs looking to sign this bloke, not fucking pompey.

    Hope - assuming we're out of the contention Sad - He ends up at Inter Milan or Atletico Madrid.
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    Post by Tweesus Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:26 pm

    Its 11:30 on a friday night obi, the whiskey is flowing and i'm on some serious painkillers king
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    Post by fcb Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:26 pm

    It's a pity that football has come to a state where words like "oh he's just a luxury player" are used to describe (when on form) possibly one of the best playmakers in the world. Agooner, I'm amazed that you call him overrated...surely Arsenal fans out of anyone can at least appreciate his ability after you played him in the CL last year? Or just because you beat them means everyone in their team is shit and overrated?

    Anyway, I think Argentina is the best move for him with the personal issues he's been having.
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    Post by Saintsar Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:28 pm

    kas wrote:It's a pity that football has come to a state where words like "oh he's just a luxury player" are used to describe (when on form) possibly one of the best playmakers in the world.

    I didn't say that 'he's just a luxury player', I said 'he's a bit of a luxury player', as pretty much all playmakers are.

    So, before lamenting the state of football, try reading properly.
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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:29 pm

    Agooner wrote:Overrated player. Should go back to Argentina where he'll find it easier to perform.

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    Post by Owen Thomas Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:45 pm

    Obispo wrote:
    Tweedle wrote:Pompey maybe?

    Sort your head out.

    Fuck sakes. There should be dozens of quality clubs looking to sign this bloke, not fucking pompey.

    Hope - assuming we're out of the contention Sad - He ends up at Inter Milan or Atletico Madrid.

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    Post by L r d Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:46 pm

    You're nasty Owen.

    We're not going to win for you tomorrow now Sad
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    Post by Owen Thomas Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:57 pm

    Obispo wrote:You're nasty Owen.

    We're not going to win for you tomorrow now Sad

    You fking b eter you bucjhhy of sucse fuckw11
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    Post by fcb Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:04 am

    Saintsarama wrote:
    kas wrote:It's a pity that football has come to a state where words like "oh he's just a luxury player" are used to describe (when on form) possibly one of the best playmakers in the world.

    I didn't say that 'he's just a luxury player', I said 'he's a bit of a luxury player', as pretty much all playmakers are.

    So, before lamenting the state of football, try reading properly.


    Well, a bit of exaggeration from my side just to get my point across, but fair enough. It just sounded to me from your post that you wanted him to tackle back and do some hard work in midfield, and while that's helpful, not a necessity for these kinds of players (in the right system), as Ronaldinho has shown. The state of football comment was linked to the recent trend of how so many Premiership teams just clog the midfield and go out not to lose rather than to win a game.
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    Post by Saintsar Sat Jan 20, 2007 1:33 am

    Sure sure, I absolutely agree that the right tactical system can afford one or two players who do none of the grunt work in midfield and that most Premiership teams would never play a technical gifted player like Riquelme over a prole like Scott Parker.

    I don't think that Riquelme should change his game, just that he has to be in the right sort of team, one where the manager/coach is willing to take the risk of playing with an out and out playmaker whose sole role is attacking.
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    Post by Pierre Littbarski Sat Jan 20, 2007 2:54 pm

    I actually agree with Agooner affraid

    Players like Riquelme, Henry and, to a lesser extent, Totti are indulged by their clubs and have the whole side built around them - they should try playing for one of the really big boys where you are just another player who has to fit into the already established system.

    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.


    * Obispo - anyone who said that Lampard is better than Deco is not someone you should even be discussing football with - don't bother next time.
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    Post by L r d Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:12 pm

    Pierre Littbarski wrote:
    The big problem for Riquelme is that his lack of physical qualities make it tough for him and he hasn't really got a big enough personality to be a big player at a big club.

    For "physical qualities" simply re: pace, because his upper-body strength can't be doubted.

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