Lippi to Milan??

Most papers are reporting that Lippi will take over the Milan job this summer. From C4:
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/feb2h.html

Ancellotti had a very successful stint at Milan, specially in Europe. But is it over, has the cycle come to an end? What do the Milan fans here think??

Also, is Lippi the best choice? Or would ya prefer someone else (Mourinho?)....

Lippi all the way!! My no. 1 choice, I hope it happens.

Btw, I don't want Ancelotti to go because he is a bad coach. He is a great coach, but I believe that after so many years change is necessary and it will do wonders for team motivation as well.

Forza Lippi(if it happens)!

Thats exactly what I think too. I think Ancelotti has proved his stuff and now seems to be running out of ideas/motivation.

Lippi will probably be the best fit for Milan. Mourinho may be a bit too conservative for Milan's style.

Red n' Black wrote:Lippi all the way!! My no. 1 choice, I hope it happens.

Btw, I don't want Ancelotti to go because he is a bad coach. He is a great coach, but I believe that after so many years change is necessary and it will do wonders for team motivation as well.

Forza Lippi(if it happens)!

I read somewhere Lippi was going back to Juve

It would be interesting to see how Mourinho works with the likes of Kaka and Pato at Milan.

It'll definitely be Mourinho or Lippi, and the latter does sound plausible because from his interviews you get the impression he's waiting for a job with either Juve or Milan. And unfortunately every week we see another story in the Barcelona tabloids about Mourinho

Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

It's a Italian team

Jesus wrote:

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

It's a Italian team

I was replying to Kas talking about Mourinho at Farsa.

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

Not necessarily. I don't think he's the all-conquering perfect manager that some portray him as.

kas wrote:

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

Not necessarily. I don't think he's the all-conquering perfect manager that some portray him as.

He did it at Porto without the millions and winning the CL.

And then done it with Chelsea will all the millions, besides im sure Laporta will give him a fair bob to spend, and having the refs on the payroll is always a plus

It will be interesting to see Mourinho at Milan or Farsa and how he deals with the fair players, at Chelsea he only really had J.Cole, it will much harder when you have 3/4 flair players in the squad.

TM wrote:

Jesus wrote:

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

It's a Italian team

I was replying to Kas talking about Mourinho at Farsa.

Ah

TM wrote:

kas wrote:

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

Not necessarily. I don't think he's the all-conquering perfect manager that some portray him as.

He did it at Porto without the millions and winning the CL.

And then done it with Chelsea will all the millions, besides im sure Laporta will give him a fair bob to spend, and having the refs on the payroll is always a plus

It will be interesting to see Mourinho at Milan or Farsa and how he deals with the fair players, at Chelsea he only really had J.Cole, it will much harder when you have 3/4 flair players in the squad.

The situations are very different.

1. Like you said, flair players. FCB does not shut down when the score is 1-0 or 2-0...keep attacking and score more goals. Also, on the one hand I'm sure his ego will love to try and reinvigorate Ronaldinho, but how will that work if you're going to ask him to track back?

2. Mark my words, Mourinho will be a disaster with the press. In England it's well and ok to come up with loads of soundbites...you "only" have to deal with fan hatred. Chelsea (and probably Porto, though I'm just guessing) did not have 2 daily newspapers in mass circulation dedicated to the club. If there's one thing Rijkaard has done phenomenally well, it's getting himself and his players to completely blunt any attempted windups or attacks from the press these past few seasons. Just look how few controversies have come up compared to Madrid or Sevilla. Even Schuster is a ticking time bomb, just wait till he has to deal with a bad spell.

3. Again, linked to point 1, his style of football is just not what works at Barça. Ok, he plays a "4-3-3", and of all the managers mentioned, that would be best for the current squad, thus minimising transfer expenditure and player turnover. But we all know a true Dutch 4-3-3 is quite different to Mourinho's idea of it.

4. The pressure and expectations at Barça (regardless of him coming in on 2 potentially trophyless seasons) is different to when he was at Chelsea. There, he was an unknown and winning was initially a bit of a surprise (ok, there was a different kind of pressure because of the value of the squad). The one trophy that he really was forced to win. ie. the CL, he couldn't.
But I must point out that on this last point, I may be wrong because I don't fully know the situation at Porto (at least in the league). The CL was again won with no pressure on him, but in the league Porto are among the big 3 so probably there was a similar situation to Barça.

The rumours are that Ancelotti will take over as the Barca boss... what do you make of that??

kas wrote:
The situations are very different.

1. Like you said, flair players. FCB does not shut down when the score is 1-0 or 2-0...keep attacking and score more goals. Also, on the one hand I'm sure his ego will love to try and reinvigorate Ronaldinho, but how will that work if you're going to ask him to track back?

2. Mark my words, Mourinho will be a disaster with the press. In England it's well and ok to come up with loads of soundbites...you "only" have to deal with fan hatred. Chelsea (and probably Porto, though I'm just guessing) did not have 2 daily newspapers in mass circulation dedicated to the club. If there's one thing Rijkaard has done phenomenally well, it's getting himself and his players to completely blunt any attempted windups or attacks from the press these past few seasons. Just look how few controversies have come up compared to Madrid or Sevilla. Even Schuster is a ticking time bomb, just wait till he has to deal with a bad spell.

3. Again, linked to point 1, his style of football is just not what works at Barça. Ok, he plays a "4-3-3", and of all the managers mentioned, that would be best for the current squad, thus minimising transfer expenditure and player turnover. But we all know a true Dutch 4-3-3 is quite different to Mourinho's idea of it.

4. The pressure and expectations at Barça (regardless of him coming in on 2 potentially trophyless seasons) is different to when he was at Chelsea. There, he was an unknown and winning was initially a bit of a surprise (ok, there was a different kind of pressure because of the value of the squad). The one trophy that he really was forced to win. ie. the CL, he couldn't.
But I must point out that on this last point, I may be wrong because I don't fully know the situation at Porto (at least in the league). The CL was again won with no pressure on him, but in the league Porto are among the big 3 so probably there was a similar situation to Barça.

bluenine wrote:The rumours are that Ancelotti will take over as the Barca boss... what do you make of that??

kas wrote:
The situations are very different.

1. Like you said, flair players. FCB does not shut down when the score is 1-0 or 2-0...keep attacking and score more goals. Also, on the one hand I'm sure his ego will love to try and reinvigorate Ronaldinho, but how will that work if you're going to ask him to track back?

2. Mark my words, Mourinho will be a disaster with the press. In England it's well and ok to come up with loads of soundbites...you "only" have to deal with fan hatred. Chelsea (and probably Porto, though I'm just guessing) did not have 2 daily newspapers in mass circulation dedicated to the club. If there's one thing Rijkaard has done phenomenally well, it's getting himself and his players to completely blunt any attempted windups or attacks from the press these past few seasons. Just look how few controversies have come up compared to Madrid or Sevilla. Even Schuster is a ticking time bomb, just wait till he has to deal with a bad spell.

3. Again, linked to point 1, his style of football is just not what works at Barça. Ok, he plays a "4-3-3", and of all the managers mentioned, that would be best for the current squad, thus minimising transfer expenditure and player turnover. But we all know a true Dutch 4-3-3 is quite different to Mourinho's idea of it.

4. The pressure and expectations at Barça (regardless of him coming in on 2 potentially trophyless seasons) is different to when he was at Chelsea. There, he was an unknown and winning was initially a bit of a surprise (ok, there was a different kind of pressure because of the value of the squad). The one trophy that he really was forced to win. ie. the CL, he couldn't.
But I must point out that on this last point, I may be wrong because I don't fully know the situation at Porto (at least in the league). The CL was again won with no pressure on him, but in the league Porto are among the big 3 so probably there was a similar situation to Barça.

Not sure tbh. Today there was a story that internally the Barça board is split on Mourinho - the VP of Finance (and possible next president) Soriano is pushing for him, but others are undecided, esp. because of Mourinho's football style and antagonistic manner of handling the press. Most importantly, Cruyff isn't convinced about Mourinho either.

Ancelotti is a good manager, he gets Milan playing good football and achieving lots of success, under both media and boardroom pressure. But can he succeed in Spain? That's what I'm a bit unsure about.

Robinho 10 wrote:

kas wrote:

TM wrote:Mourinho would guarentee trophies. albeit substance over style.

Not necessarily. I don't think he's the all-conquering perfect manager that some portray him as.

He did it at Porto without the millions and winning the CL.

And then done it with Chelsea will all the millions, besides im sure Laporta will give him a fair bob to spend, and having the refs on the payroll is always a plus

It will be interesting to see Mourinho at Milan or Farsa and how he deals with the fair players, at Chelsea he only really had J.Cole, it will much harder when you have 3/4 flair players in the squad.

He will sell them and bring in africans.

I'm sure a lot of Milanistas wouldn't mind them 'Africans' (Drogba, Essien, Mikel) though would they?