Luca "Il Bomber" Toni, the real deal!!

bluenine wrote:So Otto, whats the verdict??

While most of you said that Klose will overshadow the Luca "Il Bomber" Toni and score more goals, the stats tell a different story...

Toni - 18 goals in 26 games
Klose - 10 goals in 25 games

And apart from being the leading scorer in Bundesliga, Toni is also topping the scoring charts at UEFA Cup with 10 goals already!!!

Not a bad first season, eh?

(No disrespect in the comparison with Klose... IMO Klose is one of the top strikers in europe too)

Lets just laugh at Galliani, who when offered Toni's services remarked that he would be very embarassed to see Toni wear the rossoneri shirt coz he isn't of that class. So who is embarassed now, Galliani?

Pierre Littbarski wrote:

bluenine wrote:So Otto, whats the verdict??

While most of you said that Klose will overshadow the Luca "Il Bomber" Toni and score more goals, the stats tell a different story...

Toni - 18 goals in 26 games
Klose - 10 goals in 25 games

And apart from being the leading scorer in Bundesliga, Toni is also topping the scoring charts at UEFA Cup with 10 goals already!!!

Not a bad first season, eh?

(No disrespect in the comparison with Klose... IMO Klose is one of the top strikers in europe too)

Lets just laugh at Galliani, who when offered Toni's services remarked that he would be very embarassed to see Toni wear the rossoneri shirt coz he isn't of that class. So who is embarassed now, Galliani?

I make him right - Toni's good but Bundesliga/UEFA is well below CL.

Since 1888 wrote:2003/04 Bayern München 32 23 Bundesliga

Makaay's first season.

So why don't you rate Makaay blue and you do rate Toni?

blutgraetsche wrote:Toni has been impressive in his first Bundesliga season (he has scored around 30 goals in all competitions), and if he continues to score in the last remaining matches, he most probably will win the best player of the year award, beating both Ribery and Diego.

Despite the usual ...Schwachsinn being written in this thread, scoring in the Bundesliga has never been 'easy'. Topscorers of the year have always scored considerably less league goals than in other leagues, Gerd Müller the only (eternal) exception, and it's not just because of those 4 matches less played (18 teams vs. 20 teams in the other big leagues).

Toni has been well worth the high wages Bayern pay him.

bluenine wrote:

Lets just laugh at Galliani, who when offered Toni's services remarked that he would be very embarassed to see Toni wear the rossoneri shirt coz he isn't of that class. So who is embarassed now, Galliani?

Red n' Black wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Lets just laugh at Galliani, who when offered Toni's services remarked that he would be very embarassed to see Toni wear the rossoneri shirt coz he isn't of that class. So who is embarassed now, Galliani?

It's not as if we needed to hear this to realise what a TOOL Galliani really is.

Anyway, I was always a fan of Toni and I even mentioned here last year that he would be my ideal signing upfront(him and Cassano).

bluenine wrote:

Lets just laugh at Galliani, who when offered Toni's services remarked that he would be very embarassed to see Toni wear the rossoneri shirt coz he isn't of that class. So who is embarassed now, Galliani?

bluenine wrote:

Since 1888 wrote:2003/04 Bayern München 32 23 Bundesliga

Makaay's first season.

So why don't you rate Makaay blue and you do rate Toni?

I rated Makaay only briefly, but was never really convinced by him. Not the kind of striker I like. Just like I never really rated Inzaghi inspite of so many goals.

Toni is different, he is the complete package. Would love to see Toni at Inter, IMO Moratti should have swapped him with Crespo!

Yef wrote:

bluenine wrote:

Since 1888 wrote:2003/04 Bayern München 32 23 Bundesliga

Makaay's first season.

So why don't you rate Makaay blue and you do rate Toni?

I rated Makaay only briefly, but was never really convinced by him. Not the kind of striker I like. Just like I never really rated Inzaghi inspite of so many goals.

Toni is different, he is the complete package. Would love to see Toni at Inter, IMO Moratti should have swapped him with Crespo!

The fact that you mention Makaay with Inzaghi says a lot!!

Makaay has the highest nr of assists in the league!! Yet he missed a lot matches this year.

Yeah he is a cold killer, but can also let a team better play!

bluenine wrote:

Since 1888 wrote:2003/04 Bayern München 32 23 Bundesliga

Makaay's first season.

So why don't you rate Makaay blue and you do rate Toni?

I rated Makaay only briefly, but was never really convinced by him. Not the kind of striker I like. Just like I never really rated Inzaghi inspite of so many goals.

Toni is different, he is the complete package. Would love to see Toni at Inter, IMO Moratti should have swapped him with Crespo!

bluenine wrote:

Since 1888 wrote:2003/04 Bayern München 32 23 Bundesliga

Makaay's first season.

So why don't you rate Makaay blue and you do rate Toni?

I rated Makaay only briefly, but was never really convinced by him. Not the kind of striker I like. Just like I never really rated Inzaghi inspite of so many goals.

Toni is different, he is the complete package. Would love to see Toni at Inter, IMO Moratti should have swapped him with Crespo!

Senor Woody wrote:
What I like about the Luca Toni story is that not all great players have to be pulling up trees in their teens.

To Toni, the late developer

bluenine wrote:2 more goals by Luca Toni! Bundesliga tally goes up to 20 already.... his season tally goes up to 33 goals in 40 games!!!!!!!!!

Good article on Toni:
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/04/17/hoenesss_patience_rewarded_as.html

Toni wins Muller backing
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Legendary German striker Gerd Muller believes Luca Toni can beat his record and score more than 40 goals in a single season. Toni, who moved to Bayern Munich from Fiorentina last summer, has already struck 35 times in 2007-08, netting 20 in the Bundesliga, 10 in the UEFA Cup and five in the German Cup. “Luca is very strong,” said the World Cup winner. “He has already scored 35 goals and is the only person that can surpass my achievement.” Muller rifled in 40 goals in 1971-72 between League and Cup.

“We have a different style,” said the original fox-in-the-box. “He has an extraordinary instinct.” Toni has been among the world’s best centre-forwards in recent years. The 30-year-old won the European Golden Boot award after scoring 31 goals in 2006.

“I don’t know if he will succeed in beating my tally,” smirked Muller. “But if Toni doesn’t do it this season, I fear no-one ever will.” Bayern are in the semi-final of the UEFA Cup and still have five games left in the League, giving Toni plenty of opportunities to overtake Germany’s all-time top scorer.

blutgraetsche wrote:This article is slightly inaccurate. Gerd Müller scored 40 league goals in one season (1971-1972), and I can't see Toni (or anyone else) breaking that record anytime soon, if ever.

Müller was topscorer of the Bundesliga 7 times (just league goals):

1966/67: 28 goals (together with Emmerich)
1968/69: 30 goals
1969/70: 38 goals
1971/72: 40 goals (record)
1972/73: 36 goals
1973/74: 30 goals (together with Heynckes)
1977/78: 24 goals (together with Dieter Müller)

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Torsch%C3%BCtzenk%C3%B6nige_der_Fu%C3%9Fball-Bundesliga


All time topscorers:

1.) Gerd Müller: 365 goals in 427 matches, 0,85 goals per game
2.) Klaus Fischer: 268 goals in 535 matches, 0,50 goals per game
3.) Jupp Heynckes: 220 goals in 369 matches, 0,60 goals per game

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_erfolgreichsten_Torsch%C3%BCtzen_der_Fu%C3%9Fball-Bundesliga


Toni already broke the record of scoring most goals in his first season at Bayern. No striker, including Müller (who started his career there at a much younger age though), ever scored more for them in his first season. His goal scoring instinct, positioning and anticipation is the best I've ever seen since Gerd Müller.

Effenberg wrote:Still, 40 goals in about 45-50 games (in three competitions) wouldn't be the same as 40 goals in 34 games (in one competition). Müller's is a record that won't be broken.

Anyway, it shouldn't be about the records. Toni is playing a magnificent season by all standards. Hope he'll be able to deal with the press next year once he goes scoreless for three straight.

bluenine wrote:
Wanna swap with Crespo? Please?

Effenberg wrote:
Hope he'll be able to deal with the press next year once he goes scoreless for three straight.